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Duggan: Giants salary CAP info on bonuses

Y28 : 3/17/2024 9:32 am
Dan Duggan
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Today is the fifth day of the league year, which is significant for some Giants.

• LT Andrew Thomas: Due a $5M roster bonus today.

• WR Darius Slayton: Due a $2.6M roster bonus today.

• DT Rakeem Nunez-Roche: $2M of $2.865M base salary becomes fully guaranteed today.

• P Jamie Gillan: Due a $250K roster bonus today.

Thomas’ roster bonus is the most meaningful. Here’s why: If the Giants restructure his contract before he earns the roster bonus (4 pm today, I believe), they can gain a maximum of $14.4M in cap space. If they restructure his contract after he earns the bonus, they can gain a maximum of $10.4M in cap space.

The Giants are going to need cap space and Thomas is an obvious restructure candidate since he’s an elite player under contract forever. If they’re going to restructure, it makes sense to do so before the bonus triggers to get the max savings from his contract.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/17/2024 9:36 am : link
Drinks on them on this St. Patty's Day!
Thanks  
section125 : 3/17/2024 9:37 am : link
Y28. Good find. $14 mill will be a good transfer and even $10.4 isn't something to sneeze at.
yup, Y28 and his usual good arcania  
ColHowPepper : 3/17/2024 9:46 am : link
real Q: where might they apply such new found cushion, in this year where we can't even fathom how much transition, and where along the roster, is in play
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer  
Shecky : 3/17/2024 10:05 am : link
First off, awesome work again!,,,

But. Every offseason we have to restructure deals in order to manage the thin cap space.

And every offseason the question about how can the Eagles spend, then people say they will have to pay the piper soon. And it never comes…

I would prefer to go one off-season without restructuring deals. Feel the pain, and start The team hasn’t been good in a decade. Would one painful off-season have made a difference record wise? We thought we had that off-season when we let Bradbury go due to $, yet we are in the same spot once again.
Is Waller retiring? Limbo....or did he decide to stay?  
George from PA : 3/17/2024 10:06 am : link
He needs to make a decision sooner rather than later.
The problem with restructures  
Chip : 3/17/2024 10:11 am : link
It just makes later years much harder to deal with.
Shecky....the Giants have been very active.....  
George from PA : 3/17/2024 10:12 am : link
The Eagle buys today FAs with tomorrow money.

They have not gotten hit but the Hurts contract....rough scope: they added 5 voidable years.....so the 100 million bonus is divided by 10 years(10mil).....vs 5 years(20mil).....creative....but they can not get out of it. If his play drops....ouch!

Jones can be cut next year.
I’m surprised Slayton is still here  
bigblueny : 3/17/2024 10:17 am : link
I like/liked him but a release frees up 6m
RE: I’m surprised Slayton is still here  
section125 : 3/17/2024 10:24 am : link
In comment 16436082 bigblueny said:
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I like/liked him but a release frees up 6m


So you want to release a fairly effective player to save what it will cost you, at least, to replace him?
RE: RE: I’m surprised Slayton is still here  
bigblueny : 3/17/2024 10:35 am : link
In comment 16436083 section125 said:
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In comment 16436082 bigblueny said:


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I like/liked him but a release frees up 6m



So you want to release a fairly effective player to save what it will cost you, at least, to replace him?


I see several FA receivers who would be upgrades and likely wouldn’t break the bank. I think they could upgrade him for the same or slightly higher cost.
THIS is one of the ways you know  
Dave on the UWS : 3/17/2024 10:57 am : link
if your GM knows what the hell he's doing. If he restructures AT down the road, he screwed the pooch in terms of 4+ million dollars. That's mis-management of salary cap. GM's need to be smart about cap usage. This is one of the ways.
RE: THIS is one of the ways you know  
section125 : 3/17/2024 11:20 am : link
In comment 16436141 Dave on the UWS said:
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if your GM knows what the hell he's doing. If he restructures AT down the road, he screwed the pooch in terms of 4+ million dollars. That's mis-management of salary cap. GM's need to be smart about cap usage. This is one of the ways.


No it is not. Maybe he chose to save that $4 mill from having to be paid down the road - pay now, rather than later.
RE: RE: THIS is one of the ways you know  
Rudy5757 : 3/17/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16436189 section125 said:
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In comment 16436141 Dave on the UWS said:


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if your GM knows what the hell he's doing. If he restructures AT down the road, he screwed the pooch in terms of 4+ million dollars. That's mis-management of salary cap. GM's need to be smart about cap usage. This is one of the ways.



No it is not. Maybe he chose to save that $4 mill from having to be paid down the road - pay now, rather than later.


You can always create more space down the road, but right now we still need a lot of players and don’t have a lot of cap space. Get the extra space today. If you do a restructure this season anyway get the $4 mil while you can, it’s gone after today.
RE: The problem with restructures  
JoeSchoens11 : 3/17/2024 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16436076 Chip said:
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It just makes later years much harder to deal with.
If we restructure and gain $14M but don’t spend it then we just carry that amount over to the next year - the restructure will only hurt us if we have to cut AT in the future.

Unfortunately, we tend to restructure and then spend it, instead of having a true buffer each year (like the Eagles do).
RE: RE: RE: THIS is one of the ways you know  
section125 : 3/17/2024 12:21 pm : link
In comment 16436256 Rudy5757 said:
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In comment 16436189 section125 said:


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In comment 16436141 Dave on the UWS said:


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if your GM knows what the hell he's doing. If he restructures AT down the road, he screwed the pooch in terms of 4+ million dollars. That's mis-management of salary cap. GM's need to be smart about cap usage. This is one of the ways.



No it is not. Maybe he chose to save that $4 mill from having to be paid down the road - pay now, rather than later.



You can always create more space down the road, but right now we still need a lot of players and don’t have a lot of cap space. Get the extra space today. If you do a restructure this season anyway get the $4 mil while you can, it’s gone after today.


Yes, it is available today. Does not mean the Schoen thinks it is necessary to do so. It is probably a good idea, just incase an opportunity arises - in the long run it probably does not matter either way.
But to say not doing it is mismanagement because a BBIer thinks it is, doesn't make it so.
RE: I’m surprised Slayton is still here  
5BowlsSoon : 3/17/2024 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16436082 bigblueny said:
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I like/liked him but a release frees up 6m


You are joking here, right? If not, do you watch the games? Slayton had a great year despite not having a proven qb for most of the year (Jones and Cutlets). We need him.
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