QB and WR in the draft

...and still get Penix and then trade back into the 1st to get Thomas, I would be pretty ecstatic.

I love the DT idea.....make the DL special!!!

Getting #1WR makes sense

Adding Corner also makes sense....

I do not think they will draft another guard........

I am not in the crowd...a QB at any cost.

Also, usually most pro ready and best in class...are not synonymous

Who do you want as our next GM and HC?

When 3 of the top 5 guys turned out to be above average, with two of them being great? That’s what you are afraid of and makes you want to try again with Jones?

deep ball passing ability?

That enough for me.


Chris Simm's has him at 3 behind Williams and Daniels. Also says he has the fastest release 2nd only to Williams - in the draft.

I am liking him more and more.

With your failure to ntto take a QB, more than likely you would have passed on a QB that showed well while Jones had a terrible season and we are stuck in the same situation with probable weaker QB class, - you'd get fired on the spot.

Thank you for your 3 year run but your callousness for disregarding potentiial ijury issues with Mr. Jones by putting this orgization at risk for an additonal year payment dollars while not addrssing the future of the important position in the NFL other than relying only on prayer is not an acceptable trait we want running our organ ization in the future. Good luck in your future endeavors. . .

In comment 16436477 Scooter185 said:

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Who do you want as our next GM and HC?

The Giants having the 6th pick in a QB heavy draft and somehow entering the next season with post-acl Jones, Lock, and DeVito would be pathetic. I’m begging this franchise to stop being so passive and naive when it comes to the QB position.

Harrison Jr? The only one who might be gone is Jr? So, why Harris over Odunze and Nabors (and Jr. if still there?)?

In comment 16436488 giantstock said:

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With your failure to ntto take a QB, more than likely you would have passed on a QB that showed well while Jones had a terrible season and we are stuck in the same situation with probable weaker QB class, - you'd get fired on the spot. Thank you for your 3 year run but your callousness for disregarding potentiial ijury issues with Mr. Jones by putting this orgization at risk for an additonal year payment dollars while not addrssing the future of the important position in the NFL other than relying only on prayer is not an acceptable trait we want running our organ ization in the future. Good luck in your future endeavors. . .

I know Mara doesn’t operate like this, but if a GM let himself get jumped for McCarthy, then told me some mumbo jumbo about not having ‘conviction’ for Penix or Nix, and then either of those 3 QBs looked great in their rookie season while our miserable QB room looks miserable, I would fire that GM before the season ended.

In comment 16436499 Lambuth_Special said:

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In comment 16436488 giantstock said: Quote: With your failure to ntto take a QB, more than likely you would have passed on a QB that showed well while Jones had a terrible season and we are stuck in the same situation with probable weaker QB class, - you'd get fired on the spot. Thank you for your 3 year run but your callousness for disregarding potentiial ijury issues with Mr. Jones by putting this orgization at risk for an additonal year payment dollars while not addrssing the future of the important position in the NFL other than relying only on prayer is not an acceptable trait we want running our organ ization in the future. Good luck in your future endeavors. . . I know Mara doesn’t operate like this, but if a GM let himself get jumped for McCarthy, then told me some mumbo jumbo about not having ‘conviction’ for Penix or Nix, and then either of those 3 QBs looked great in their rookie season while our miserable QB room looks miserable, I would fire that GM before the season ended.

+1.

And the thing is-- the 3 you mention don't have to look "great" either. Just "good with promise" while DJ doesn't have to be "miserable" but just "sub-par."

That Williams. Maye. McCarthy and Daniels works out

When so many drafted QBs are a bust

If they miss on a QB this year it will set the franchise back multiple years

Build the team properly first so at least a rookie QB has a chance to succeed


Jamies Winston
Marcus Marriota
Carson Wentz
Mitch Trubisky
Trey Lance
Josh Rosen
Sam Darnold
Even Baker who’s drafted 1 overall hasn’t done much

Too many high draft picks in the last 10 years that have been misses. I’m sure I left out a few

Build the roster properly

In comment 16436554 Earl the goat said:

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That Williams. Maye. McCarthy and Daniels works out When so many drafted QBs are a bust If they miss on a QB this year it will set the franchise back multiple years Build the team properly first so at least a rookie QB has a chance to succeed Jamies Winston Marcus Marriota Carson Wentz Mitch Trubisky Trey Lance Josh Rosen Sam Darnold Even Baker who’s drafted 1 overall hasn’t done much Too many high draft picks in the last 10 years that have been misses. I’m sure I left out a few Build the roster properly

The franchise is already set back with their bad stable of QBs. QB is a part of the roster that needs to be upgraded. They have also spent a good deal of money building the OL and DL this offseason, and have spent high picks on WRs.

This team can’t continue punt seasons under the guise of ‘roster building’ as a thinly-veiled excuse to give Daniel Jones more time as the QB.

In comment 16436554 Earl the goat said:

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That Williams. Maye. McCarthy and Daniels works out When so many drafted QBs are a bust If they miss on a QB this year it will set the franchise back multiple years Build the team properly first so at least a rookie QB has a chance to succeed Jamies Winston Marcus Marriota Carson Wentz Mitch Trubisky Trey Lance Josh Rosen Sam Darnold Even Baker who’s drafted 1 overall hasn’t done much Too many high draft picks in the last 10 years that have been misses. I’m sure I left out a few Build the roster properly

If you are going to look at all the QB’s that are busts then why would you ever take a QB early?
Do you really think that the Scouts in the room telling their bosses not to take a QB because they can’t distinguish if the QB will be a bust or not? I say this because what are the chances that the Scouts providing inputs other bosses will believe that the current crop of QB’s aren’t worth a top 6 or top 12 or top 18 or top 24 pick in the draft (depending the QB)?

SO you think the GM and coaching staff are going to run away from the scouting system they run and employ and make their own decision? In some cases maybe they do but overall is that smart?

And since when is drafting a Franchise QB 1st not “building your team properly?” A player that is “A Franchise QB” has a meaning. It means that he is good. Otherwise what is the point of distinguishing between any QB as “Franchise” or not?

So why can’t the Giants walk and chew gum at the same time by not being so restrictive/inflexible that others first MUST BE CHOSEN before you get a QB. Where does that come from? So, if the Giants already know the OL is going to suck again this year, then we are just throwing away money to Runyon and the others for what reason? If they are good, then how can we say that the Giants aren’t ready to draft their QB?

Anyhow, if we’re talking about “busts” then how can we not talk about the current situation with Jones? What’s his probability of performing now based on with his injury history especially the potential for his legs?

And while you say if they draft the QB and he busts it will be multiple years failure – isn’t that the same of if they stick with Jones? Not only does he eat up cap space which he cost us this upcoming season, then from this 2024 season would be a complete waste. Then being free of him in 2025 we have to get a QB. Well, we’re being told the QB class next year isn’t strong; so. as you say QB rates of bust are high, then aren’t we only the same path of misery of “multiple years” waiting for a QB?

How about instead of all of this – why don’t the Giants staff do their jobs and pick the right QB? That’s their job. One of those QB’s at their pick is more than likely to be a Franchise QB. Why not expect them as a fan to do their job instead of being scared /and/or providing excuses for them?

Then trading down, but not too far down, to get another 2nd can make a lot of sense. That way, we probably can pick up both a CB and a QB in round 2.

outside of anyone but Williams. I would have no problem with a top WR (take your pick) and Nix as the future.