I can't believe I'm posting this as normally I don't pay much attention to these anonymous insider accounts, however if you've been paying attention the past couple of weeks, this guy has been scary accurate with the information he's posting and has also now been shut down 2x for no other reason than posting "inside info" which proved to be right.
Either way, PrettyRickey212 was shut down again this morning and the news he was breaking at the time was that The Giants are on the verge of acquiring the Pats #3 pick.
Do what you want with this info, he's no more than an Asshat, however he's called more than a few things recently before they even showed up as rumors amongst beats.
Anywho, what else was this guy right on?
Twitter only, he's been shut down and allowed back on a couple times now. He called the Burns trade ahead of everyone and also Hollywood Brown to KC.
He's either been getting super lucky guessing, or has some inside info.
Think he is a Twitter(X) poster. Bitey has pointed out that he has been right on more than a few issues/developments the past two(?) years and the NFL has been trying to silence him....
And he has been nailing info well before anyone else
Yesterday I tried to visit his Twitter and it came up “no such account “ after weeks of easily reading his information.
No idea who he is, but clearly an asshat
You are a trusted poster - so it is worth posting his stuff
He's shut down again and you can't view his tweets, people are talking about it on the Giants Twitter Community though. He also was shut down after reporting the Burns trade.
This has been an incredibly weird saga with him, but man has he been right about a lot.
I will say he was spot on and hours/days early on alot of info.
I can't figure out his Twitter ban thing. I think what is actually happening is Twitter has some kind of trigger if you gain too many followers too quickly unless you are a celebrity. He started his account a couple of weeks ago and he shot up to nearly 20K followers in a few days. Normally that's a result of buying followers, but his might actually have been closer to legit because a number of fan bases started following him, though he is a Giants fan (he was following me). I don't know if Twitter is shutting guys down for scooping professional "insiders".
But I wouldn't be shocked if Schoen would make that move. "Scared money don't make money".
And he has been nailing info well before anyone else
Yesterday I tried to visit his Twitter and it came up “no such account “ after weeks of easily reading his information.
No idea who he is, but clearly an asshat
I don't know who he is, but yeah, very clearly he has some inside information. I find it bizarre the account keeps getting shut down for nothing other than reporting NFL transactions.
We'll see if there is any validity to this one, until proven otherwise I'd say its no better than 50/50.
Where do I sign?
He-he-he, and a day too early...
Joking aside I put a lot of thought into whether or not I should bother posting this because its still just Asshat news from an anonymous source.
The only reason I decided to is I don't see BBI talking about him at all and he's been super accurate. That still doesn't mean there's any validity to this trade rumor.
Similar to what happened here when mlenz pretended to be gloveone way back in the day, I think it was the following year.
I think the account responded that hes been ahead of moves from multiple agencies..
Ah, too good to be true, as per usual. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
‘I made great small talk with the waitress so she could see that I relate to the commoners…I’m a man of the people.’-George Costanza.
It’s an angle playing on fears of a “deep state”.
But he’s had some home runs nonetheless. Wrong about Sneed as was mentioned earlier. Who the fuck knows? The internet is weird sometimes.
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with someone at Athlete's First. I don't know if someone with agency ties would have perfect accuracy on something like this.
I think the account responded that hes been ahead of moves from multiple agencies..
Agents often know where guys are signing who aren't their clients for a myriad of reasons. I'm sure ajr can confirm that's true.
He confirmed the Brian Burns trade. He must have deleted his old post.
Here you go
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He confirmed the Brian Burns trade. He must have deleted his old post.
So the real Rickey isn’t pretty?
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
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with someone at Athlete's First. I don't know if someone with agency ties would have perfect accuracy on something like this.
I think the account responded that hes been ahead of moves from multiple agencies..
Agents often know where guys are signing who aren't their clients for a myriad of reasons. I'm sure ajr can confirm that's true.
Fair point.
haha gloveone...classic
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
The one from this morning was tweeted by "prettyrickey212". The other stuff on Twitter and BBI was "prettyrickey213" so it's probably a fake
Where do I sign?
6 and 2 second rounders is plenty. Would we really have to give up Hyatt or Slayton too?
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Either way, I think this may have been someone acting as him and starting a rumor, which stinks because I would have taken that trade....
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
Gotcha. Yeah, I haven't even seen a screenshot of that one.
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
The one from this morning was tweeted by "prettyrickey212". The other stuff on Twitter and BBI was "prettyrickey213" so it's probably a fake
On the flipside, if the account was shut down, may have had to create a new name? I'm not 100% on Twitter workings...
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
The one from this morning was tweeted by "prettyrickey212". The other stuff on Twitter and BBI was "prettyrickey213" so it's probably a fake
I remember it as 212 - not 213
I don't know where this is coming from.
I don't know where this is coming from.
Believe the one with pretty in it is the handle on Twitter.
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
The one from this morning was tweeted by "prettyrickey212". The other stuff on Twitter and BBI was "prettyrickey213" so it's probably a fake
On the flipside, if the account was shut down, may have had to create a new name? I'm not 100% on Twitter workings...
maybe it is him on a new account? if it wasnt him and just an imposter, why did tiwtter shut down the 212 account? It is probably him with same IP or something and hence why it was shut down
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Is the thread/post gone now or can you link it? I do remember him posting the Burns trade a couple days before it went down.
Here you go https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=643996 - ( New Window )
Thank you, but meant the one that Bitey was referencing this morning, was apparenetly on Twitter but account is not shut down.
The one from this morning was tweeted by "prettyrickey212". The other stuff on Twitter and BBI was "prettyrickey213" so it's probably a fake
Maybe he had to make a new username?
But to your point yes, anyone couldve made that name and tweeted anything.
I don't know where this is coming from.
"Pretty" was only used on Twitter. Here, it's just Rickey213. No recent activity. Only posted the one thread on the 9th.
I don't know where this is coming from.
The account was just Rickey213 on BBI. Only post was the Burns thread. On twitter it was PrettyRickey213
Maybe he had to make a new username?
But to your point yes, anyone couldve made that name and tweeted anything.
It's certainly possible. I've just seen this movie before with anonymous twitter insiders in nba, mlb and nfl offseasons and fast followers/copycats trying to get attention so I'm skeptical
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
There is no doubt there is an asshat who knows A LOT who goes by the name Rickey.
There is no doubt there is an asshat who knows A LOT who goes by the name Rickey.
Yes, it's clearly the same guy who posted here.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
It is odd though, that PrettyRickey213 on twitter (the past week) and Rickey213 on BBI were both spot on about Burns...
However now, Rickey213 on twitter account was disabled and Rickey212 is claiming this rumor. Thats where it gets likely fake-newish
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
The jist of it is that the prettyrickey213 account on Twitter posted the Burns stuff on both BBI and Twitter. On Twitter he nailed both the compensation and the contract Burns got. The same account also broke several other non-Giants FA moves before anyone else with specifics (see the tweet linked). Then out of nowhere the account was deactivated. This morning a new account popped up on Twitter with the username prettyrickey212 vs 213 and tweeted the topic of this thread. That account was deleted shortly thereafter as well.
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you guys are saying a twitter account is connected with someone who has an active account here, that's a pretty big stretch.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
The jist of it is that the prettyrickey213 account on Twitter posted the Burns stuff on both BBI and Twitter. On Twitter he nailed both the compensation and the contract Burns got. The same account also broke several other non-Giants FA moves before anyone else with specifics (see the tweet linked). Then out of nowhere the account was deactivated. This morning a new account popped up on Twitter with the username prettyrickey212 vs 213 and tweeted the topic of this thread. That account was deleted shortly thereafter as well. PrettyRickey - ( New Window )
Also worth adding, the original account that broke other moves appeared to be a Giants fan so it makes sense he'd be aware of BBI and post here
ergo
PrettyRickey = Rico Suave
RICO?!?!?!?
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If I had to guess, Maye is their QB1.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
Eric do you have a way to reach out to the person who set up that BBI handle and predicted the Burns trade? Can't remember if we use email addresses or other contact info when we register for BBI and set up handles. Tell him we appreciate him and need him back in the asshat saddle! Or heck, just get intel from him off to the side and feed it to us piecemeal like a mama feeding her little baby birds? Please and thank you.
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you guys are saying a twitter account is connected with someone who has an active account here, that's a pretty big stretch.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
Eric do you have a way to reach out to the person who set up that BBI handle and predicted the Burns trade? Can't remember if we use email addresses or other contact info when we register for BBI and set up handles. Tell him we appreciate him and need him back in the asshat saddle! Or heck, just get intel from him off to the side and feed it to us piecemeal like a mama feeding her little baby birds? Please and thank you.
I think Eric has confirmed that he does "hear" stuff regularly that he doesn't share unless directed to do so. He does share things like- keep an eye on this or that or pay attention to this poster from time to time.
True, the original Rickey (twitter account) and Rickey (BBI) both reported Burns around the same time. Come to the real news breaking website and report it!
Ahh me too. I always thought it was a roundabout MJ reference.
ergo
PrettyRickey = Rico Suave
RICO?!?!?!?
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you guys are saying a twitter account is connected with someone who has an active account here, that's a pretty big stretch.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
Eric do you have a way to reach out to the person who set up that BBI handle and predicted the Burns trade? Can't remember if we use email addresses or other contact info when we register for BBI and set up handles. Tell him we appreciate him and need him back in the asshat saddle! Or heck, just get intel from him off to the side and feed it to us piecemeal like a mama feeding her little baby birds? Please and thank you.
If he wants to reach out, he knows how to do it. I respect the privacy of people who register unless there is a problem.
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I have never heard of this BBI poster.
Twitter only, he's been shut down and allowed back on a couple times now. He called the Burns trade ahead of everyone and also Hollywood Brown to KC.
He's either been getting super lucky guessing, or has some inside info.
He posted the Burns trade on here
Sometimes I wonder about these midweek news bombs…🤔
Even if Eric is that manipulative, it’s still crack to me!
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He's not banned here...
True, the original Rickey (twitter account) and Rickey (BBI) both reported Burns around the same time. Come to the real news breaking website and report it!
Exactly! We know you're reading Rickey.
Set the record straight.
interesting..
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you guys are saying a twitter account is connected with someone who has an active account here, that's a pretty big stretch.
It's likely fake news.
The original Rickey who posted here only posted once and he was spot on.
It is odd though, that PrettyRickey213 on twitter (the past week) and Rickey213 on BBI were both spot on about Burns...
However now, Rickey213 on twitter account was disabled and Rickey212 is claiming this rumor. Thats where it gets likely fake-newish
Just to state another way:
Rickey213 on BBI and a twitter account PrettyRickey213 both reported Burns days prior to the rest of the media getting a hold of it. PrettyRickey213 on twitter also broke non-giants news the first days of free agency, had a pretty good record.
Today, a PrettyRickey212* tweeted the rumor OP alluded to. PrettyRickey213 had a big following over free agency, was apparently shut down, and this "new" handle tweeted this morning. This is where I find it to be less believable.
I do believe that the original Rickey213(BBI) and PrettyRickey213 (Twitter) were the same person. Would be strange to copy that name and create a BBI handle of it, no?
😂😂
Thanks GoDeep!... Looks like it could come right down to the buzzer.
Interesting!
Yeah i feel like you can only drum up more interest/packages the longer you wait.
Unless its a very narrow amount of teams and want to get it over with? Always wondered why the Jets moved up early that year they traded up for Darnold.
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(1) it was the same person
(2) one guy was pretending to be the other
Regardless, at least one guy knew the Brian Burns stuff, confirming what I was told days earlier privately (and I hinted as much that deal was going down).
I don’t buy it.
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show you the power of these corporations to have accounts shut down for simply spreading the truth.
I don’t buy it.
Me neither. I think he got too much attention and when legit reporters started to hone in on who he was panicked and deactivated the account.
Well, I’ll be in Pats Country-Maine-that Thursday evening. Can’t come soon enough.
Thanks for deets.
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show you the power of these corporations to have accounts shut down for simply spreading the truth.
I don’t buy it.
So you think he shut down his old twitter account on his own just to set up another with a similar name to do the same thing?
Sure.
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show you the power of these corporations to have accounts shut down for simply spreading the truth.
I don’t buy it.
So you think he shut down his old twitter account on his own just to set up another with a similar name to do the same thing?
Sure.
So you think Twitter gives a fuck about what some rando posts from his basement?
Sure.
I've seen others post here that they like Nix.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
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show you the power of these corporations to have accounts shut down for simply spreading the truth.
I don’t buy it.
So you think he shut down his old twitter account on his own just to set up another with a similar name to do the same thing?
Sure.
So you think Twitter gives a fuck about what some rando posts from his basement?
Sure.
Absolutely, if he is getting scoops ahead of big media's so called insiders they don't like it and complain, Elon shuts em down because the big media companies help generate lots more income for him than some small guy making them all look bad.
(1) it was the same person
(2) one guy was pretending to be the other
Regardless, at least one guy knew the Brian Burns stuff, confirming what I was told days earlier privately (and I hinted as much that deal was going down).
Yes, I will say you truly were the first one who alluded to Burns trade first. Rickey (and a few others i think) came in 24-48 hours later and posted their info.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
But so what? What leverage does the NFL have on Twitter? Elon doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who gives a fuck. Besides, why would the NFL want to give any credit this guy when there are hundreds off asshats on Twitter pretending to be insiders? So he got lucky a few time but he has been wrong, too.
BBI, not controlled by big tech!!!! (everything kinda is though lol)
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
Who those other teams are, I do not know. I asked if the Giants were one, and the exact response I got was “Maybe….”
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
Crazy if true. You would think the guy is stealing IP or something tangible. Nope, just scoops.
Art Stapleton was aware of Rickey and joked about him in a tweet last week.
Ever try to watch an NFL channel YouTube video? There are 3x the amount of ads than a regular YouTube video.
Years ago, this little shit website I run tried to sell a few hundred t-shirts and the NFL lawyers immediately threatened to sue me and shut down BBI (I contacted the Giants and they didn't give a shit). This despite the fact that the shirts didn't even mention the name "Giants."
My point here is the NFL uses legal threats at the drop of a hat. I don't think it is far fetched that the NFL has a direct channel to middle management at X and then said, get rid of that account.
A trade with the Giants pretty much keeps blue-chippers at WR and Oline in play for New England. Minnesota not so(as) much.
I say that while understanding the crapshoot the NFL draft is but when you can take a swing at a top talent, I think you do it.
If true, this would help us immensely.
Goodell would have to make you a sweet sweet offer. But nobody buys off our Eric!
Monte @MONTECRI5TO ELON IS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE GREATEST NFL INSIDER THIS APP HAS EVER SEEN IN HIS PRIME! Justice for @PrettyRickey213 !!! #ThePeoplesInsider - ( New Window )
Strengthens our offfer, for sure
Monte @MONTECRI5TO ELON IS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE GREATEST NFL INSIDER THIS APP HAS EVER SEEN IN HIS PRIME! Justice for @PrettyRickey213 !!! #ThePeoplesInsider - ( New Window )
Ha ha
People are tweeting at Elon to free Rickey!
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
People with the power don’t like to look bad
Monte @MONTECRI5TO ELON IS TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE GREATEST NFL INSIDER THIS APP HAS EVER SEEN IN HIS PRIME! Justice for @PrettyRickey213 !!! #ThePeoplesInsider - ( New Window )
I saw that, freakin hilarious!
Makes sense. If the QB they like is there, they take him. If not, get the best deal within their guidelines. Might be highest haul; might be best haul not leaving the top 6 or top 10 or even top 15.
Might be they like Daniels over Maye - and then they like Nix after that or not even a QB...perhaps a WR or OT.
At least Joe Schoen has done a good job stopping the leaks
You have the floor!
You have the floor!
Wait! You are not Rickey?
Williams
Daniels
Nix
So if you’re them, and 1-2 goes the way we all pretty much think it will, why not move down for additional draft assets and get your guy?
Williams
Daniels
Nix
So if you’re them, and 1-2 goes the way we all pretty much think it will, why not move down for additional draft assets and get your guy?
That could explain them being hesitant dropping out of the top 10. Does Nix make it to 11? Who knows
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
People with the power don’t like to look bad
I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Williams
Daniels
Nix
So if you’re them, and 1-2 goes the way we all pretty much think it will, why not move down for additional draft assets and get your guy?
This - a lot of dependencies are how teams have QBs on board. Been some smoke the Pats aren't in love with Maye and see some latitude across the second tier of QBs.
If they like Nix, they probably don't want to drop too far to allow teams like Raiders or Broncos to jump them.
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
Crazy if true. You would think the guy is stealing IP or something tangible. Nope, just scoops.
Art Stapleton was aware of Rickey and joked about him in a tweet last week.
It may be considered proprietary information until it's officially filed and announced.
This is what ive been crossing my fingers for. Sure, 2 picks is nice. But moving from 3 to 6 still gives you a future pick while ensuring you still get an elite talent this year.
Where do I sign?
Rather than Slayton nd/or Hyatt, substitute D. Jones!
You have the floor!
Ok this literally made me laugh out loud!
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
Maybe we need an asshat asshat?
if this is to be believed. The Giants supposedly have presented the Patriots with a deal that they may or may not accept when they are on the clock.
In other words, we may or may not know if this ends up being true.
if this is to be believed. The Giants supposedly have presented the Patriots with a deal that they may or may not accept when they are on the clock.
In other words, we may or may not know if this ends up being true.
That's the beauty of it. Everything is so fluid you can never be wrong!
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
Ok then, Does that mean you are going to text JM and tell him to take away Schoen's trading privileges?
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No, I think the NFL probably leaned on Twitter.
He apparently was spreading news about other teams as well.
He was right on a lot on the original account. Days before anyone else.
I heard from an agency contact that Schefter and Rappaport had his account reported non stop.
Hmm. Thanks ajr. I still don’t get why that’s a bannable offense.
People with the power don’t like to look bad
I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
Have you heard anything lately?
I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
So does that mean any reference to the NFL, teams or players by fans is subject to censorship by the NFL? Aren't they getting a bit close to law violations?
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
How can the Vikings offer more than the Giants?
Ricky Rubio steals balls
Ricky Gervais steals material
Pretty Rickey steals NFL inside information
Can't trust a Ricky
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until draft night is inevitable if the reports are true that the Patriots like Daniels. They need to see if Washington takes him. The Vikings can offer more than the Giants, but the Patriots would have to be comfortable trading down to 11, which they understandably may not be.
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
How can the Vikings offer more than the Giants?
Draft wise we can beat their best offer of pick 11, 23, a 3rd a d 2035 1st by trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd. It would be a huge sum to pay, hope it works out. Sounds like Schoen might really want Maye or JJM.
Not some anonymous guy on twitter taking views and clicks away from the NFL cash cow.
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until draft night is inevitable if the reports are true that the Patriots like Daniels. They need to see if Washington takes him. The Vikings can offer more than the Giants, but the Patriots would have to be comfortable trading down to 11, which they understandably may not be.
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
How can the Vikings offer more than the Giants?
Draft wise we can beat their best offer of pick 11, 23, a 3rd a d 2035 1st by trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd. It would be a huge sum to pay, hope it works out. Sounds like Schoen might really want Maye or JJM.
Where is this 3rd coming from? 2025? Doubt that has much value but if that was Minnesota's offer then wouldn't have picks (aside from 3 overall) in this year's draft until the 4th round and next year's draft until the 4th round. Hard to see them putting all of that on the table imo.
Not some anonymous guy on twitter taking views and clicks away from the NFL cash cow.
He actually was way ahead of the Schefter types who are used as approved leak sources.
His rumors were retweeted
Stole NFL property
Now his account has been deleted
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until draft night is inevitable if the reports are true that the Patriots like Daniels. They need to see if Washington takes him. The Vikings can offer more than the Giants, but the Patriots would have to be comfortable trading down to 11, which they understandably may not be.
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
How can the Vikings offer more than the Giants?
Draft wise we can beat their best offer of pick 11, 23, a 3rd a d 2035 1st by trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd. It would be a huge sum to pay, hope it works out. Sounds like Schoen might really want Maye or JJM.
Giants #6, #47 and any upper 2025 picks is better than the Vikes. Hell Giants #6 and #47 is just about equivalent to #11 and #23. It also keeps NE inside the top 10 for one of the top WRs or OTs or ERs.
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until draft night is inevitable if the reports are true that the Patriots like Daniels. They need to see if Washington takes him. The Vikings can offer more than the Giants, but the Patriots would have to be comfortable trading down to 11, which they understandably may not be.
The problem is that we are now in a bidding war, which is a terrible draft strategy, especially since none of the "big four" QBs seems generational. As Eric's wife said, at least two will likely stink. Schoen's personnel moves also haven't nearly been good enough to allow him to trade the draft capital required to move up to #3.
How can the Vikings offer more than the Giants?
Draft wise we can beat their best offer of pick 11, 23, a 3rd a d 2035 1st by trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd. It would be a huge sum to pay, hope it works out. Sounds like Schoen might really want Maye or JJM.
Where is this 3rd coming from? 2025? Doubt that has much value but if that was Minnesota's offer then wouldn't have picks (aside from 3 overall) in this year's draft until the 4th round and next year's draft until the 4th round. Hard to see them putting all of that on the table imo.
That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
The trading Thibs stuff is stupid. You literally just made a strength and then take it away and there is no pass rusher in the 3rd to replace him. Getting pass rushers is hard. It costs about 141Mil and if you are lucky only a 2nd and 5th.
Pretty Rickey is credited as the first person toe ver take a selfie LOL
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
1. You don’t know that
2. This is a hypothetical
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
1. You don’t know that
2. This is a hypothetical
Well it is a dumb hypothetical as it would be the biggest EVER over pay to move up 3 spots to pick the 3rd QB.
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
I just looked it up, Yes the old chart but close enough, 11 and 23 are worth 2010 pts. 6 and 47 are worth 2030.
So Giants picks are worth more than the Vikings picks. Plus NE stays within the top 6 and gets a top WR, ER, OT....
Well it is a dumb hypothetical as it would be the biggest EVER over pay to move up 3 spots to pick the 3rd QB.
Well yes, if you specifically use those parameters where there has been only a few trades ever then sure it would be the biggest haul but in reality deals like this happen often in recent years. Carolina traded 2 1’s, 2 2’s and DJ Moore to move up last year. SF traded 3 1’s and a 3 to move up to take Lance.
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
I just looked it up, Yes the old chart but close enough, 11 and 23 are worth 2010 pts. 6 and 47 are worth 2030.
So Giants picks are worth more than the Vikings picks. Plus NE stays within the top 6 and gets a top WR, ER, OT....
If I’m NE I’d rather get NYG 1st next year vs Minnesota’s too
You have the floor!
Lets gooooo.
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Well it is a dumb hypothetical as it would be the biggest EVER over pay to move up 3 spots to pick the 3rd QB.
Well yes, if you specifically use those parameters where there has been only a few trades ever then sure it would be the biggest haul but in reality deals like this happen often in recent years. Carolina traded 2 1’s, 2 2’s and DJ Moore to move up last year. SF traded 3 1’s and a 3 to move up to take Lance.
Neither of those were from pick 6 to 3. SF was from pick 12 and Carolina went all the way to #1. They aren't even close to the same. That offer would be insane and it should be laughed at. I also hope you realize that both of those trades were huge mistakes.
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show you the power of these corporations to have accounts shut down for simply spreading the truth.
I don’t buy it.
So you think he shut down his old twitter account on his own just to set up another with a similar name to do the same thing?
Sure.
So you think Twitter gives a fuck about what some rando posts from his basement?
Sure.
Wait...
Who said anything about him being in a basement?...
AH-HA!
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Well it is a dumb hypothetical as it would be the biggest EVER over pay to move up 3 spots to pick the 3rd QB.
Well yes, if you specifically use those parameters where there has been only a few trades ever then sure it would be the biggest haul but in reality deals like this happen often in recent years. Carolina traded 2 1’s, 2 2’s and DJ Moore to move up last year. SF traded 3 1’s and a 3 to move up to take Lance.
Neither of those were from pick 6 to 3. SF was from pick 12 and Carolina went all the way to #1. They aren't even close to the same. That offer would be insane and it should be laughed at. I also hope you realize that both of those trades were huge mistakes.
It’s not worth continuing this conversation because you’re hung up specifically moving from 6 to 3 and completely missing the point. Of course those trades were mistakes, duh. They took the wrong guys. If Carolina took Stroud and SF took Purdy there nobody would be calling it a mistake. You still have to get the pick right
That would make sense and really help us. I'm afraid the player would have to be KT to get it done with our 1st pick 47 and future 2nd, no way hyatt or Slayton gets that done with Min likely offering pick 11, 23 and future 1st plus maybe a 3rd.
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That would be their best offer I think. Maybe not with the 3rd, but that would be the sweetener to potentially beat us trading pick 6, 47, 2025 1st and 2nd
Our 2024 and 2025 1sts and 2nds is a vastly superior offer to that one
We wouldn't trade 6, 47, next years 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots. Come on now.
Yes it would be insane, but I feel like the Vikings offering pick 11, 23, a 3rd and 2025 1st. So that's what it would take to beat it. We could sub Thibs for 2025 1st..I wouldn't like it but I'd be excited we had conviction
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I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
So does that mean any reference to the NFL, teams or players by fans is subject to censorship by the NFL? Aren't they getting a bit close to law violations?
It means they will act to shut down sensitive info leaks. As if often the case, free speech is not what many think it is.
You have the floor!
The "Leak" we got from Ricky may have been intentional mis-information put out to find the original leaker.
I'm sure Schoen was pissed after info on the Burns trade was leaked to a non-officialy approved insider. Schoen and the Giants FO may have intentionally floated this in order to try and catch someone inside the organization who passed this to Rickey.
And if you're asking, yes, NFL Front offices ARE that paranoid about this sort of thing (the good ones, anyway, since they hate losing their bargaining edge in negotiations with players or other NFL FO's.)
I'm shocked that we get any info from AssHats at all here on BBI, especially the way people react to them when their info goes wrong (something that's going to happen because of the fluid nature of these sort of leaks...things may change at any time, or as I mentioned, the leak may be intentional).
Rickey's source may have told him to shut down, since the source was getting heat. That would also explain why he hasn't posted both at Twitter or here.
And if I were to guess, the "source" may have been a left over from the previous FO, maybe a scout or higher up. It's no shock those sorts of guys are often replaced as quickly as possible, they aren't really as loyal to the new boss.
The "Leak" we got from Ricky may have been intentional mis-information put out to find the original leaker.
I'm sure Schoen was pissed after info on the Burns trade was leaked to a non-officialy approved insider. Schoen and the Giants FO may have intentionally floated this in order to try and catch someone inside the organization who passed this to Rickey.
Considering some of the other deals he reported early, it's a stretch to think this person is from inside Giants land. More likely a business associated with the league (paralegal, agent's administrator, etc) in some capacity. That said, yes, it's plausible that someone would float bad info to root out a leak. No idea if that happened.
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This is a free speech zone!
You have the floor!
The "Leak" we got from Ricky may have been intentional mis-information put out to find the original leaker.
I'm sure Schoen was pissed after info on the Burns trade was leaked to a non-officialy approved insider. Schoen and the Giants FO may have intentionally floated this in order to try and catch someone inside the organization who passed this to Rickey.
And if you're asking, yes, NFL Front offices ARE that paranoid about this sort of thing (the good ones, anyway, since they hate losing their bargaining edge in negotiations with players or other NFL FO's.)
I'm shocked that we get any info from AssHats at all here on BBI, especially the way people react to them when their info goes wrong (something that's going to happen because of the fluid nature of these sort of leaks...things may change at any time, or as I mentioned, the leak may be intentional).
Rickey's source may have told him to shut down, since the source was getting heat. That would also explain why he hasn't posted both at Twitter or here.
And if I were to guess, the "source" may have been a left over from the previous FO, maybe a scout or higher up. It's no shock those sorts of guys are often replaced as quickly as possible, they aren't really as loyal to the new boss.
He just can't be with the Giants though...he was breaking stuff that had nothing to do with the Giants...like Ridley, Hollywood Brown to the KC...and this was like a full day before any other news source had it.
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I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
So does that mean any reference to the NFL, teams or players by fans is subject to censorship by the NFL? Aren't they getting a bit close to law violations?
It means they will act to shut down sensitive info leaks. As if often the case, free speech is not what many think it is.
Also, free speech just means you won't get arrested. And you won't get arrested for disclosing NFL inside info on twitter. Free speech protects against prosecution. It doesn't preclude or stop businesses and institutions from their own legislations against said speech.
Say you hate someone, you won't get arrested but you can definitely get fired.
The fact that it got banned this fast makes me think its probably real.
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I guess I can see how Rapoport and Schefter, with combined 14 M followers, might have some sway here. That makes more sense to me than the NFL getting involved.
Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
So does that mean any reference to the NFL, teams or players by fans is subject to censorship by the NFL? Aren't they getting a bit close to law violations?
It means they will act to shut down sensitive info leaks. As if often the case, free speech is not what many think it is.
Also, free speech just means you won't get arrested. And you won't get arrested for disclosing NFL inside info on twitter. Free speech protects against prosecution. It doesn't preclude or stop businesses and institutions from their own legislations against said speech.
Say you hate someone, you won't get arrested but you can definitely get fired.
Who implied this was a free speech violation?
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The fact that it got banned this fast makes me think its probably real.
I agree, but counterpoint - this 2nd rickey account could've just been deleted by the user.
Rickey may have multiple sources from various teams. His "Giants" source was who I was referring to as the one getting "heat".
As you say, it's likely Rickey is NOT part of the Giants Organization...but it's interesting he also opened up an account on BBI.
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He just can't be with the Giants though...he was breaking stuff that had nothing to do with the Giants...like Ridley, Hollywood Brown to the KC...and this was like a full day before any other news source had it.
Rickey may have multiple sources from various teams. His "Giants" source was who I was referring to as the one getting "heat".
As you say, it's likely Rickey is NOT part of the Giants Organization...but it's interesting he also opened up an account on BBI.
People on twitter are theorizing that he was floated a bogus story about a KC trade? to weed him out lol
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now banned too, not sure if its real or not...but 213 account seemed legit. Link - ( New Window )
The fact that it got banned this fast makes me think its probably real.
I agree, but counterpoint - this 2nd rickey account could've just been deleted by the user.
I'm not a tweet master, but I think when account is banned it looks different than when it's deleted. I'm not sure though, I have a gut feeling Schoen and Dabka really want Maye or McCarthy and they aren't going to lose this bidding war. This idea scares me and excites me at the same time. I would personally prefer to let the Vikings make the trade and take JJM or Maye with much less of an investment. Alas, what do I know I have faith in Schoen and Co. They appear to be willing to best any offer Minnesota makes based on asshats here talking and Patriots perhaps wanting to stay in the top 6 vs dropping to 11.
Actually, it seems like that count got deleted rather than banned. The old Rickey213 account still shows his profile pictures, but no content. The Rickey212 account doesn't come up with anything, but I don't know how Twitter works myself.
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now banned too, not sure if its real or not...but 213 account seemed legit. Link - ( New Window )
Actually, it seems like that count got deleted rather than banned. The old Rickey213 account still shows his profile pictures, but no content. The Rickey212 account doesn't come up with anything, but I don't know how Twitter works myself.
I can see the original account name and picture in my recent searches but no longer can open it. Yesterday I was just brought to a blank timeline
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now banned too, not sure if its real or not...but 213 account seemed legit. Link - ( New Window )
Actually, it seems like that count got deleted rather than banned. The old Rickey213 account still shows his profile pictures, but no content. The Rickey212 account doesn't come up with anything, but I don't know how Twitter works myself.
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Exactly
Moving from 6 to 3 should be less painful than the Eli trade, no?
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying in my recent back and forths here regarding the Minnesota trade a few days ago.
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TBF he also hinted at OBJ and MVS to the Jets.
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Say the Pats are hesitant about moving out of the top 10, they have their targets and don’t believe they may make it outside of the top 10.
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying in my recent back and forths here regarding the Minnesota trade a few days ago.
Yes you've made strong points about how the Patriots would likely prefer to trade down with us. Seems like this may be the case. I honestly didn't believe Schoen would be this aggressive. I thought when GoDeep13 said we had put all our chips on the table he meant it, but it seems like he really is all in on one of these guys. If Schoen, Dabka and Co have this much conviction (knowing their staking their futures on it) you gotta have faith. And you've been right on your point about our pick 6, no team behind us can beat our offers if Schoen n Co really have that level of conviction.
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Say the Pats are hesitant about moving out of the top 10, they have their targets and don’t believe they may make it outside of the top 10.
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying in my recent back and forths here regarding the Minnesota trade a few days ago.
If we trade all this for Maye and the Pats actually like JJM and are willing to overpay AZ or LA to ensure they get him, they could really make out like bandits. Obviously, this depends on how Maye and JJM compare down the line. They could even get all the picks from us and potentially get JJM for just pick 6. Though I think they would have to overpay on a slight trade up with LA to shield themselves from the Vikings trading up.
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Their material is NFL property, the NFL would and do get involved.
Have you heard anything lately?
No. My guess is Maye is their preferred QB.
I wouldn't be so sure. I think JJM might have both the Vikings and Giants salivating over his potential with evolved throwing mechanics similar to how Allen did in 2020. I'm starting to get the feeling both the Vikings and Giants are fawning over JJM myself. Look at Chris Simms analysis of Drake Maye, there are myriad reasons why he might not be the guy they're targeting.
TrickyRicky, where you at?!?!
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Say the Pats are hesitant about moving out of the top 10, they have their targets and don’t believe they may make it outside of the top 10.
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying in my recent back and forths here regarding the Minnesota trade a few days ago.
Yes you've made strong points about how the Patriots would likely prefer to trade down with us. Seems like this may be the case. I honestly didn't believe Schoen would be this aggressive. I thought when GoDeep13 said we had put all our chips on the table he meant it, but it seems like he really is all in on one of these guys. If Schoen, Dabka and Co have this much conviction (knowing their staking their futures on it) you gotta have faith. And you've been right on your point about our pick 6, no team behind us can beat our offers if Schoen n Co really have that level of conviction.
JS is in a really hard place, almost a lose-lose-lose-lose I'd say. Thanks useless wins against the teams picking 2nd and 3rd.
He has 3 options in order of how horrible:
1) Trading up with SD to get the 4th QB. This is the big win but I think trading up 1 pick is going to cost them at least a 3rd and it is just going to be very hard to compete this year with a rookie QB, this roster and anything that reduces our draft.
2) Stay put and draft the WR. This is the best move resource wise but almost definitely gets him fired. Nabors could be OBJ as a rookie and we still couldn't field a winning team with this QB room, they could trade back up for Nix which honestly is their best chance of winning but it likely costs them next years 1 and that would not create a very good situation for team building either.
3) Kings ransom for one of the top 3 QBs. I think this scenario like 1 almost guarantees another year for JS and BD. But you have a bigger roster building problem than 1 here. Thanks for the shitty contract DJ!
4) Don't draft a QB in round 1. Unless DJ changes as a QB this would be the last year for BD at least, maybe JS if it gets messy. This means that 1 and 3 are the most likely scenarios IMO. Hoping for 1 but our desperation makes it so easy for SD to extract whatever they want from us if one of the top 4 is there.
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Say the Pats are hesitant about moving out of the top 10, they have their targets and don’t believe they may make it outside of the top 10.
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying in my recent back and forths here regarding the Minnesota trade a few days ago.
Yes you've made strong points about how the Patriots would likely prefer to trade down with us. Seems like this may be the case. I honestly didn't believe Schoen would be this aggressive. I thought when GoDeep13 said we had put all our chips on the table he meant it, but it seems like he really is all in on one of these guys. If Schoen, Dabka and Co have this much conviction (knowing their staking their futures on it) you gotta have faith. And you've been right on your point about our pick 6, no team behind us can beat our offers if Schoen n Co really have that level of conviction.
JS is in a really hard place, almost a lose-lose-lose-lose I'd say. Thanks useless wins against the teams picking 2nd and 3rd.
He has 3 options in order of how horrible:
1) Trading up with SD to get the 4th QB. This is the big win but I think trading up 1 pick is going to cost them at least a 3rd and it is just going to be very hard to compete this year with a rookie QB, this roster and anything that reduces our draft.
2) Stay put and draft the WR. This is the best move resource wise but almost definitely gets him fired. Nabors could be OBJ as a rookie and we still couldn't field a winning team with this QB room, they could trade back up for Nix which honestly is their best chance of winning but it likely costs them next years 1 and that would not create a very good situation for team building either.
3) Kings ransom for one of the top 3 QBs. I think this scenario like 1 almost guarantees another year for JS and BD. But you have a bigger roster building problem than 1 here. Thanks for the shitty contract DJ!
4) Don't draft a QB in round 1. Unless DJ changes as a QB this would be the last year for BD at least, maybe JS if it gets messy. This means that 1 and 3 are the most likely scenarios IMO. Hoping for 1 but our desperation makes it so easy for SD to extract whatever they want from us if one of the top 4 is there.
1 is also extremely risky because they could easily get jumped by a team willing to pay a premium to AZ or LA, maybe LA would prefer to go further down for extra draft capital vs 1 pick down with us. I also tend to believe Schdabka prefer one of JJM or Maye over the other. I don't think they are graded the same. So it's safer for them and better to pay extra to get the guy they really want and not leave it up to chance, because as you said their entire careers are truly at stake here.
That's why I think our best shot is trading up to 3 and it seems Schoen feels the same, plus word is the Pats want to stay in top 6 whether that be for Maye/JJM/Nix/Nabers/Odunze/Alt it would guarantee them a blue chippers or qb they like while still getting a haul for their pick. I believe the asshat here that said NE favors a trade down with us.
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see the SD trade up, but if we get jumped we just have to punt and I don't know what that means. We can't take QB 5 at pick 6. Does that mean we go Nabers/MHj the answer would almost have to be yes. If not it would only be with a trade down for top return and without a QB to come up you don't get the top return. So you have to go Nabers and then pray Nix/Penix fall far enough for you to move back up for one of them in the second round. I don't take Rattler at all, but maybe in the 4th I take a chance on Joe Milton. I mean you can only do what you can do. If no one wants to trade with us or we get major outbid what are you going to do.
That's why I think our best shot is trading up to 3 and it seems Schoen feels the same, plus word is the Pats want to stay in top 6 whether that be for Maye/JJM/Nix/Nabers/Odunze/Alt it would guarantee them a blue chippers or qb they like while still getting a haul for their pick. I believe the asshat here that said NE favors a trade down with us.
I agree, but I can't give up my first next year and I can't give up Thibs. Hell I don't want to give up Hyatt as we already have a WR issue. So would 6, 47, a later round pick swap in their favor, and a 2nd in 2025 get it done? If it doesn't I move on and gamble on QB4 and we make more sense for SD to move down only one spot. Where we can get hurt is if NE stays and picks a QB. I mean we are the ideal trade partner for teams to still get a stud unless you want a huge return.
Pats also receive NYG's 1st & 3rd round picks next year.
See what they'd be willing to take before that though, with this being just about your maximum offer. I could be persuaded to give up the 2nd rounder instead of the 3rd rounder or at least doing a pick swap of say the 2nd rounder for NE's 5th rounder or something like that.
Bottom line: NYG needs a QB this year. Schoen and Daboll are on the clock and need to make it happen.
Pats also receive NYG's 1st & 3rd round picks next year.
See what they'd be willing to take before that though, with this being just about your maximum offer. I could be persuaded to give up the 2nd rounder instead of the 3rd rounder or at least doing a pick swap of say the 2nd rounder for NE's 5th rounder or something like that.
Bottom line: NYG needs a QB this year. Schoen and Daboll are on the clock and need to make it happen.
Understanding that if the QB you believe is available and an overpay may be required, I think that is far too much.
6, 47 and next year's #2. The 6 is already better than Minn 11 and 23 and keeps NE in the stud WR area or top OT or top ER. Can offer the 2025 #1 in a swap with their 2025 #2...