i think if Ohtani is not the guy gambling, he knew of the interepter's gambling they are supposedly super close..
Absolutely. The timing is too suspect. Whether you believe Ohtani would allow his interpreter access to millions of dollars so he could pay Ohtanis bills or not (seems ridiculous to me) but I will never be convinced that the interpreter was the only person on the planet responsible for Ohtanis money and nobody else would have noticed millions of dollars being taken until the feds discovered it during an investigation into an illegal gambling outfit.
Seems more like a “oh shit, the feds found it! What now?” To me
its kind of crazy to think about but if Ohtani truly trusted this guy it would be very easy for him to steal money..
I said it before but read about Dane Cooks brother
I don't know anything about Dane Cook because I can't stand him
But you're talking about a blood relative versus an employee. I can believe that there's an account that the interpreter has access to for some expenses, a petty cash fund kind of thing. I find it much more difficult to believe that this account would have millions in it.
RE: I don't know anything about Dane Cook because I can't stand him
But you're talking about a blood relative versus an employee. I can believe that there's an account that the interpreter has access to for some expenses, a petty cash fund kind of thing. I find it much more difficult to believe that this account would have millions in it.
I dont think its a theft thing, i think Ohtani 100% knew he was gambling, but its not crazy that a friend gets access, even if its just hey i got a business venture you want in? or like you said he has a fund that Ohtani outs moneh into for him..
But you're talking about a blood relative versus an employee. I can believe that there's an account that the interpreter has access to for some expenses, a petty cash fund kind of thing. I find it much more difficult to believe that this account would have millions in it.
I dont think its a theft thing, i think Ohtani 100% knew he was gambling, but its not crazy that a friend gets access, even if its just hey i got a business venture you want in? or like you said he has a fund that Ohtani outs moneh into for him..
Supposedly Ohtani was paying him 500k a year
Ohtani is the gambler. Let's stop the nonsense and user our senses.
RE: But.....Ohtani's lawyers are claiming it IS theft
yeah this is where Ohtani loses the court of public opinion, unless Ohtani was dumb enough to give him access to everything...
My best guess is this guy had access to some of Ohtani money told him he would tske care of the bills and things like that and then started gambking with it, got in really deep and went to Ohtani and admitted everything and zohtani paid off the debt...
Then the feds got involved and they knew there was a wire transfer from Ohtani and saw how it looked and immediately came out and said the interepreter stole it
But if I had to guess right now, based on the timelines and what we do know my guess is that the interpreter is voluntarily taking the fall for his mega rich friend that has his entire life ahead of him. Japanese are insanely loyal. I’d guess when this shit started to go sideways the other day the interpreter told them to lay it all on him to protect Ohtani. And I’m sure there will also be a big bag waiting for him for his troubles
But if I had to guess right now, based on the timelines and what we do know my guess is that the interpreter is voluntarily taking the fall for his mega rich friend that has his entire life ahead of him. Japanese are insanely loyal. I’d guess when this shit started to go sideways the other day the interpreter told them to lay it all on him to protect Ohtani. And I’m sure there will also be a big bag waiting for him for his troubles
that is extremely loyal, dude is going to 2 to 3 yesrs minimum
I'm in the camp that we'll likely never know the real truth
but as far as plausible deniability -- think about the role that these translators play. It extends far, far beyond the clubhouse and the reporters.
Who do you think helps a guy like Ohtani set up a bank account (for instance).
By and large, these translators likely have a ton of knowledge of and access to personal information pertaining to the player.
The concept that a guy like this *could* steal money isn't crazy to me.
I agree with this. This guy is more than just an interpreter; he's basically Ohtani's Man Friday. Like a hybrid interpretor, manager, personal assistant, and wing man.
I wouldn't think it crazy for someone in that position to be able to embezzle from someone who has more money than he could possibly spend.
RE: I'm in the camp that we'll likely never know the real truth
It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
The interpreter's original story was that Ohtani knew about the (interpreter's) debts and willingly paid them off. That seems more likely to me.
It also feels like MLB will try to bury this story since Ohtani is their international cash cow.
But if I had to guess right now, based on the timelines and what we do know my guess is that the interpreter is voluntarily taking the fall for his mega rich friend that has his entire life ahead of him. Japanese are insanely loyal. I’d guess when this shit started to go sideways the other day the interpreter told them to lay it all on him to protect Ohtani. And I’m sure there will also be a big bag waiting for him for his troubles
that is extremely loyal, dude is going to 2 to 3 yesrs minimum
It’s a hell of a lot more believable than Ohtani gave his interpreter full access to his account, who in turn siphoned millions of dollars in funds to an illegal gambling outfit and nobody else on the planet noticed this money missing until the feds came around, lol
The part that seems weird to me, if you assume that Mizuhara was...
...the actual gambler - what bookie is letting this guy bet large enough to get $4.5 million in the hole? I'm not a gambler, so I can't say I know this, but that seems awfully steep. He made great money, yeah, but even then you're talking about losses in excess of five times his yearly salary. Just sounds hard to believe.
Ohtani is paying off debts of these magnitude for someone else. He's a gambler, used his interpreter (who really seems to be his Mr. Smithers) as a fall guy and the interloper with the bookies so he could gamble.
RE: I disagree with some posts about how easy this could have been.
It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
RE: RE: I disagree with some posts about how easy this could have been.
It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Shohei does strike me as the type of guy who may not check his finances that much, both because he seems to be all about baseball and has a ton of money coming in in the future. But at the same time, he's not worth THAT much, it's not like Bezos or Musk losing $4.5 million, that is, someone should notice it pretty quickly.
Moreover, it's pretty weird for someone with Shohei's finances to have $4.5 million liquid sitting around. If he does, he should hire a real money manager.
If that's all true, then why the sudden reversal and accusation of
theft? Just because his people suddenly realized that he was admitted to breaking MLB rules and even the law?
Also, damn is Ohtani a generous fella if he was willing to pay off $4.5 million in gambling debt for his pal.
Yes, that would be the explanation. Look, I'm totally skeptical of this whole thing and do not believe the official story. But if it really was Ohtani, the federal government has absolutely 0 incentive to cover it up, and any prosecutor would want to make his/her name by bringing him down. To say nothing of MLB's credibility getting even further blown to shit if the truth ever came out.
Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
I’m sorry, the “good guy” thing goes out the window if he’s falsely accusing his very close friend of stealing $4.5M from him now. The dude will go to jail for “theft” of that kind of cash. Lying and throwing your friend under the bus in order to save your own ass is not exactly good guy material.
Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
I’m sorry, the “good guy” thing goes out the window if he’s falsely accusing his very close friend of stealing $4.5M from him now. The dude will go to jail for “theft” of that kind of cash. Lying and throwing your friend under the bus in order to save your own ass is not exactly good guy material.
In this scenario, the interpreter was already screwed no matter what. And as for the "theft" angle:
(1) I'm sure the interpreter would feel like he owes Ohtani.
(2) In my experience, prosecutors don't go for huge sentences when the victim wants the opposite.
I don't really care if Ohtani turns out to be a good guy or degenerate gambler and horrible person, fwiw. I'm just guessing at what I think happened.
RE: RE: RE: I disagree with some posts about how easy this could have been.
It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Shohei does strike me as the type of guy who may not check his finances that much, both because he seems to be all about baseball and has a ton of money coming in in the future. But at the same time, he's not worth THAT much, it's not like Bezos or Musk losing $4.5 million, that is, someone should notice it pretty quickly.
Moreover, it's pretty weird for someone with Shohei's finances to have $4.5 million liquid sitting around. If he does, he should hire a real money manager.
This is exactly why the whole "cover" story is nonsense.
Ohtani is the gambler and the bookies were in on it.
Nobody is extending 5m in credit/debt to someone that can't pay and they aren't doing it just based on "I work for Ohtani" credibility.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I disagree with some posts about how easy this could have been.
Nobody is extending 5m in credit/debt to someone that can't pay and they aren't doing it just based on "I work for Ohtani" credibility.
That's my gut feeling too, with the caveat again that I don't gamble or have any sort of first hand knowledge of it. I just can't buy that a bookie is letting this guy getting that far into the hole. $500K is a helluva nice salary. Wish I made a quarter of that...but that ain't enough to get literally *millions* down to a bookie.
You guys are right insofar as that's the toughest part
to believe for me--the bookie giving him $4.5 mm credit. Like Greg, I know nothing about the world of illegal high-stakes gambling lol. But it seems fishy. I guess maybe the interpreter already paid off a bunch of money and established credibility? Which would mean it's even more than $4.5 million....
I kind of want to dislike Ohtani, since he didn't come to the Yankees. But one thing I do know a little about is how prosecutors operate, and I don't see any incentive for them to go along with a scheme to exonerate Ohtani.
Maybe more details regarding his relationship with the interpreter
to the media as such, and was then advised by legal counsel that paying the debt could be construed as aiding and abetting gambling which itself could be illegal or at minimum a violation of the MLB player's contract, hence the original story was changed.
Sounds like Anderson and Bonds situation. Kay mentioned on his show that whenever you wire transfer money, you get like 3 calls from your bank. To say Ohtani didn’t know sounds like B.S.
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Ohtani Throwing Games: A Thread
(1) July 22, 2022, a bet of $1,000,000 was placed for the Atlanta Braves to score over 6.5 runs against the Los Angeles Angels parlayed with Braves -3.5. The bet was placed with a bookie in Mizusawa (Shohei’s home town). The pitcher for the Angels
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(2) that day? Shohei Ohtani. That stats for Shohei that day were as followed, 6.1 IP, 6 H, 6 ER and 1 BB. At the plate you ask? 0-3 with 2 strike outs. Was he throwing games? I’ll let you decide that
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Ohtani Throwing Games: A Thread
(1) July 22, 2022, a bet of $1,000,000 was placed for the Atlanta Braves to score over 6.5 runs against the Los Angeles Angels parlayed with Braves -3.5. The bet was placed with a bookie in Mizusawa (Shohei’s home town). The pitcher for the Angels
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(2) that day? Shohei Ohtani. That stats for Shohei that day were as followed, 6.1 IP, 6 H, 6 ER and 1 BB. At the plate you ask? 0-3 with 2 strike outs. Was he throwing games? I’ll let you decide that
This guy is known for posting satire and other nonsense, would not even give this a second look unless there was cold hard evidence.
See the game highlight video linked below. The Fireworks start around the 5:00 ninute mark, when Ohtani strikes out his 11th batter in the 6th inning, but appears to run out of gas. Olson homers and breaks up a good pitching effort. The feces hits the fan, Ohtani leaves with the bases loaded, and the bullpen implodes.
Typical Truist Park uprising from the Braves lineup.
where does everyone stand, telling the truth or bullshit?
I have to say I thought he was convincing. Very direct and seemingly forthcoming and his reasons made sense. Then again, pretty easy to make him a fall guy so who knows.
where does everyone stand, telling the truth or bullshit?
I have to say I thought he was convincing. Very direct and seemingly forthcoming and his reasons made sense. Then again, pretty easy to make him a fall guy so who knows.
I agree he was convincing and I want to believe him. But I just can’t shake the feeling that the interpreter is going to have a big bag waiting for him for taking one for the team. Unfortunately we are likely to never find out the truth. They’ve got their story and the interpreter is going to play along. If he is in fact covering for Ohtani
That said, IDGAF if he bet, as long as it wasn't on games he's played. Gambling is so normalized now that we got teams in Vegas, which would have been a total scandal 10 years ago. It's a new world.
RE: Jumping way, WAYYYY ahead but wouldn't it be mind-blowing
but I heard some of his press conference. He said he first learned about the gambling during the team meeting where his interpreter spoke expect the interpreter conducting the meeting in English and Ohtani didn’t have anyone to translate for him so he couldn’t entirely understand the meeting. Really insane.
but I heard some of his press conference. He said he first learned about the gambling during the team meeting where his interpreter spoke expect the interpreter conducting the meeting in English and Ohtani didn’t have anyone to translate for him so he couldn’t entirely understand the meeting. Really insane.
That said, IDGAF if he bet, as long as it wasn't on games he's played. Gambling is so normalized now that we got teams in Vegas, which would have been a total scandal 10 years ago. It's a new world.
I care if he gambles within the sport. If you allow even that you bring into question cross team collusion. You just can’t have that. Athletes, baseball players especially, are making generational wealth several times over, they can wait to gamble until they retire.
Yessir, and throw in the clumsy, unprepared way this has been handled with the media, and THEN pull in the Dodgers to help handle (and try to cover tracks) ... it all smells funny.
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i think if Ohtani is not the guy gambling, he knew of the interepter's gambling they are supposedly super close..
Absolutely. The timing is too suspect. Whether you believe Ohtani would allow his interpreter access to millions of dollars so he could pay Ohtanis bills or not (seems ridiculous to me) but I will never be convinced that the interpreter was the only person on the planet responsible for Ohtanis money and nobody else would have noticed millions of dollars being taken until the feds discovered it during an investigation into an illegal gambling outfit.
Seems more like a “oh shit, the feds found it! What now?” To me
its kind of crazy to think about but if Ohtani truly trusted this guy it would be very easy for him to steal money..
I said it before but read about Dane Cooks brother
I dont think its a theft thing, i think Ohtani 100% knew he was gambling, but its not crazy that a friend gets access, even if its just hey i got a business venture you want in? or like you said he has a fund that Ohtani outs moneh into for him..
Supposedly Ohtani was paying him 500k a year
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But you're talking about a blood relative versus an employee. I can believe that there's an account that the interpreter has access to for some expenses, a petty cash fund kind of thing. I find it much more difficult to believe that this account would have millions in it.
I dont think its a theft thing, i think Ohtani 100% knew he was gambling, but its not crazy that a friend gets access, even if its just hey i got a business venture you want in? or like you said he has a fund that Ohtani outs moneh into for him..
Supposedly Ohtani was paying him 500k a year
Ohtani is the gambler. Let's stop the nonsense and user our senses.
yeah this is where Ohtani loses the court of public opinion, unless Ohtani was dumb enough to give him access to everything...
My best guess is this guy had access to some of Ohtani money told him he would tske care of the bills and things like that and then started gambking with it, got in really deep and went to Ohtani and admitted everything and zohtani paid off the debt...
Then the feds got involved and they knew there was a wire transfer from Ohtani and saw how it looked and immediately came out and said the interepreter stole it
that is extremely loyal, dude is going to 2 to 3 yesrs minimum
Who do you think helps a guy like Ohtani set up a bank account (for instance).
By and large, these translators likely have a ton of knowledge of and access to personal information pertaining to the player.
The concept that a guy like this *could* steal money isn't crazy to me.
That's Bullshit.
-Pete Rose
Who do you think helps a guy like Ohtani set up a bank account (for instance).
By and large, these translators likely have a ton of knowledge of and access to personal information pertaining to the player.
The concept that a guy like this *could* steal money isn't crazy to me.
I agree with this. This guy is more than just an interpreter; he's basically Ohtani's Man Friday. Like a hybrid interpretor, manager, personal assistant, and wing man.
I wouldn't think it crazy for someone in that position to be able to embezzle from someone who has more money than he could possibly spend.
Who do you think helps a guy like Ohtani set up a bank account (for instance).
By and large, these translators likely have a ton of knowledge of and access to personal information pertaining to the player.
The concept that a guy like this *could* steal money isn't crazy to me.
The interpreter's original story was that Ohtani knew about the (interpreter's) debts and willingly paid them off. That seems more likely to me.
It also feels like MLB will try to bury this story since Ohtani is their international cash cow.
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But if I had to guess right now, based on the timelines and what we do know my guess is that the interpreter is voluntarily taking the fall for his mega rich friend that has his entire life ahead of him. Japanese are insanely loyal. I’d guess when this shit started to go sideways the other day the interpreter told them to lay it all on him to protect Ohtani. And I’m sure there will also be a big bag waiting for him for his troubles
that is extremely loyal, dude is going to 2 to 3 yesrs minimum
It’s a hell of a lot more believable than Ohtani gave his interpreter full access to his account, who in turn siphoned millions of dollars in funds to an illegal gambling outfit and nobody else on the planet noticed this money missing until the feds came around, lol
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
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It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Shohei does strike me as the type of guy who may not check his finances that much, both because he seems to be all about baseball and has a ton of money coming in in the future. But at the same time, he's not worth THAT much, it's not like Bezos or Musk losing $4.5 million, that is, someone should notice it pretty quickly.
Moreover, it's pretty weird for someone with Shohei's finances to have $4.5 million liquid sitting around. If he does, he should hire a real money manager.
Also, damn is Ohtani a generous fella if he was willing to pay off $4.5 million in gambling debt for his pal.
Also, damn is Ohtani a generous fella if he was willing to pay off $4.5 million in gambling debt for his pal.
Yes, that would be the explanation. Look, I'm totally skeptical of this whole thing and do not believe the official story. But if it really was Ohtani, the federal government has absolutely 0 incentive to cover it up, and any prosecutor would want to make his/her name by bringing him down. To say nothing of MLB's credibility getting even further blown to shit if the truth ever came out.
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Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
I’m sorry, the “good guy” thing goes out the window if he’s falsely accusing his very close friend of stealing $4.5M from him now. The dude will go to jail for “theft” of that kind of cash. Lying and throwing your friend under the bus in order to save your own ass is not exactly good guy material.
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Mizuhara racked up the debt and asked Ohtani to cover it. He wires the money to the bookie directly instead of giving it to a gambling addict, not knowing that doing so is illegal in California (sports betting being a state by state thing).
Ohtani says this to the press. His attorneys immediately sense the legal shit he just stepped in and change the story to that Mizuhara stole the money outright - shielding Ohtani from any blowback.
Gun to my head, this is the story I put my money on. Which makes Shohei still a really good guy, but he accidentally did something quasi-legal/illegal and against MLB rules.
I’m sorry, the “good guy” thing goes out the window if he’s falsely accusing his very close friend of stealing $4.5M from him now. The dude will go to jail for “theft” of that kind of cash. Lying and throwing your friend under the bus in order to save your own ass is not exactly good guy material.
In this scenario, the interpreter was already screwed no matter what. And as for the "theft" angle:
(1) I'm sure the interpreter would feel like he owes Ohtani.
(2) In my experience, prosecutors don't go for huge sentences when the victim wants the opposite.
I don't really care if Ohtani turns out to be a good guy or degenerate gambler and horrible person, fwiw. I'm just guessing at what I think happened.
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It is not easy to wire $4.5 million from someone else's account without that other person finding out. For 2 reasons: It's both hard to be able to complete the wires in the first place, and for the other person to never notice $4.5 million missing.
My colleague manages the finances for a famous English singer. She's an authorized user for the accounts and would have no problem taking money out of any of the singer's accounts. The singer, maybe not immediately, but would definitely catch on, though, which is a wild part of the story
Shohei does strike me as the type of guy who may not check his finances that much, both because he seems to be all about baseball and has a ton of money coming in in the future. But at the same time, he's not worth THAT much, it's not like Bezos or Musk losing $4.5 million, that is, someone should notice it pretty quickly.
Moreover, it's pretty weird for someone with Shohei's finances to have $4.5 million liquid sitting around. If he does, he should hire a real money manager.
This is exactly why the whole "cover" story is nonsense.
Ohtani is the gambler and the bookies were in on it.
Nobody is extending 5m in credit/debt to someone that can't pay and they aren't doing it just based on "I work for Ohtani" credibility.
That's my gut feeling too, with the caveat again that I don't gamble or have any sort of first hand knowledge of it. I just can't buy that a bookie is letting this guy getting that far into the hole. $500K is a helluva nice salary. Wish I made a quarter of that...but that ain't enough to get literally *millions* down to a bookie.
I kind of want to dislike Ohtani, since he didn't come to the Yankees. But one thing I do know a little about is how prosecutors operate, and I don't see any incentive for them to go along with a scheme to exonerate Ohtani.
What the fuck am I doing? What kind of tabloid is BBI?
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MLB announced that “earlier today” their department of investigations “began their formal process investigating the matter” involving Shohei Ohtani and Ippei Mizuhari.
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Ohtani Throwing Games: A Thread
(1) July 22, 2022, a bet of $1,000,000 was placed for the Atlanta Braves to score over 6.5 runs against the Los Angeles Angels parlayed with Braves -3.5. The bet was placed with a bookie in Mizusawa (Shohei’s home town). The pitcher for the Angels
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(2) that day? Shohei Ohtani. That stats for Shohei that day were as followed, 6.1 IP, 6 H, 6 ER and 1 BB. At the plate you ask? 0-3 with 2 strike outs. Was he throwing games? I’ll let you decide that
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Ohtani Throwing Games: A Thread
(1) July 22, 2022, a bet of $1,000,000 was placed for the Atlanta Braves to score over 6.5 runs against the Los Angeles Angels parlayed with Braves -3.5. The bet was placed with a bookie in Mizusawa (Shohei’s home town). The pitcher for the Angels
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(2) that day? Shohei Ohtani. That stats for Shohei that day were as followed, 6.1 IP, 6 H, 6 ER and 1 BB. At the plate you ask? 0-3 with 2 strike outs. Was he throwing games? I’ll let you decide that
This guy is known for posting satire and other nonsense, would not even give this a second look unless there was cold hard evidence.
Typical Truist Park uprising from the Braves lineup.
I don't think Otani 'threw' that game. - ( New Window )
Read Shohei Ohtani’s full statement on Ippei Mizuhara, gambling scandal - ( New Window )
I have to say I thought he was convincing. Very direct and seemingly forthcoming and his reasons made sense. Then again, pretty easy to make him a fall guy so who knows.
I have to say I thought he was convincing. Very direct and seemingly forthcoming and his reasons made sense. Then again, pretty easy to make him a fall guy so who knows.
I agree he was convincing and I want to believe him. But I just can’t shake the feeling that the interpreter is going to have a big bag waiting for him for taking one for the team. Unfortunately we are likely to never find out the truth. They’ve got their story and the interpreter is going to play along. If he is in fact covering for Ohtani
That said, IDGAF if he bet, as long as it wasn't on games he's played. Gambling is so normalized now that we got teams in Vegas, which would have been a total scandal 10 years ago. It's a new world.
Pete rose anyone????
*Except, obviously
That said, IDGAF if he bet, as long as it wasn't on games he's played. Gambling is so normalized now that we got teams in Vegas, which would have been a total scandal 10 years ago. It's a new world.
I care if he gambles within the sport. If you allow even that you bring into question cross team collusion. You just can’t have that. Athletes, baseball players especially, are making generational wealth several times over, they can wait to gamble until they retire.
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