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Roughly 10 Days Into Free Agency - Big Picture Review

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/22/2024 4:04 pm
- Biggest splash was actually a trade and a 5-year, $141 million contract for Brian Burns, one of the NFL's top pass rushers and a guy entering his prime.

Signed from other teams:

- 5 offensive linemen
- 2 blocking tight ends
- 1 quarterback
- 1 running back
- 1 wide receiver
- 1 defensive back

Re-signed:

- 1 wide receiver
- 1 tight end
- 1 outside linebacker
- 2 cornerbacks (counting tender for McCloud)
- 3 special teams players

Signing with other teams:

- 1 quarterback
- 1 running back
- 1 wide receiver
- 2 offensive linemen
- 1 defensive linemen
- 1 outside linebacker
- 1 safety


New York Giants 2024 Free Agency Scorecard - ( New Window )
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/22/2024 4:07 pm : link
I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.
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ILGMan : 3/22/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.


If we get any kind of decent QB play I do not see us being horrible. If the O Line takes a step forward we will be a .500 team. If we get a QB and there is growth it will be a great season as a fan.

I don’t want to be in the business of rooting for DJ this season please
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ILGMan : 3/22/2024 4:13 pm : link
In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.


If we get any kind of decent QB play I do not see us being horrible. If the O Line takes a step forward we will be a .500 team. If we get a QB and there is growth it will be a great season as a fan.

I don’t want to be in the business of rooting for DJ this season please
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TY in CT : 3/22/2024 4:34 pm : link
If we HIT in the draft, hopefully we see signs of progress.
not to miller but if you look at the team's cap allocations  
Eric on Li : 3/22/2024 4:41 pm : link
this is now a roster with emphasis on 2 things:

1. attacking the LOS on defense, mostly on DL/EDGE (6th most in NFL)
2. protecting the passer (10th most in NFL)

between OL, front 7, QB, that is almost 75% of the projected active roster cap by AAV.


You Are What You Spend Your Cap Space On - ( New Window )
They improved the OL  
Gman11 : 3/22/2024 4:48 pm : link
Which means the running backs might have a hole to run through, they convert short yardage plays, the QB has time to throw. Improved offense keeps the defense off the field. Then, they got the pass rusher they wish they had in Ojulari and Thibodeaux. An improved pass rush means the DBs don't have to try to cover a receiver for an eternity.

And, people are predicting gloom and doom?

If these improvements hold true the only thing that will keep them from having a good season is injuries.
if they get their QB  
BigBlueCane : 3/22/2024 4:53 pm : link
then its a good haul.

Otherwise, it's questionable IMO.
Eric on Li  
TY in CT : 3/22/2024 4:53 pm : link
That was a great article. And the investments seem more realistic. I can't argue with the GMs priorities.
Folks  
jc in c-ville : 3/22/2024 4:57 pm : link
Since that blocked field goal on their first drive right thru week 17, it was a shit show of epic proportions. Next year will not be worse if we secure a QB ( future looks bright regardless of record) or a game changing WR and with both, more positives on each line. Plus, schedule is much more accommodating and coach D will not be running a country club training camp.
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Amtoft : 3/22/2024 5:01 pm : link
In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.


Really? This Defense is starting to look good. If we can get a legit DT in the 2nd round, sign a vet CB2, and bring in another Safety this Defense can be something.
RE: Eric on Li  
Eric on Li : 3/22/2024 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16443022 TY in CT said:
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That was a great article. And the investments seem more realistic. I can't argue with the GMs priorities.


its ironic given the thread but something Eric (from BBI) said last year has echo'd in my head the last week or so as FA has unfolded. Something about how DAL/PHI were still in a different weight class as NYG.

this FA period feels very much like they said "whatever else happens we are going to start punching back" even if it's at the expense of some skill players. They want to be the team doing the harassing of QBs, not getting harassed.

I agree with you, hard to argue against that.
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mfjmfj : 3/22/2024 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.


I am curious as to why? I think the biggest question is what it has been for years. Have they fixed the OL? If so, we can be decent to very good (based on QB play). If not, another lost year.

Do you see something different? Or do you think the OL will not get better? Or is the QB thing overwhelming?
My feeling is before a QB, before weapons, before anything  
George from PA : 3/22/2024 5:49 pm : link
A solid OL unit is a must.

Have to build from the trenches out  
kelly : 3/22/2024 7:53 pm : link
All the good Giant teams were built that way.

Still concerned with the o line. Seems like we might get to be an average line but nothing more unless they go o line pick 6 and 47.
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Ivan15 : 3/22/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.
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Seriously? More pessimistic than 2 weeks ago? If you feel that way, the draft isn’t going to help you.
RE: Have to build from the trenches out  
Mike from Ohio : 3/22/2024 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16443224 kelly said:
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All the good Giant teams were built that way.

Still concerned with the o line. Seems like we might get to be an average line but nothing more unless they go o line pick 6 and 47.


We have a LT and a C who you are not replacing. You suggest picking up a RT and G with two top 50 picks, or two guards?

You can help the Oline a lot by having a QB that 1) can challenge a defense vertically, and b) doesn’t stare down a receiver until he achieves 6 feet of social distance.

Football is complementary. With out current QB most lines will look like crap.
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Fifty Six : 3/23/2024 12:23 am : link
In comment 16442991 ILGMan said:
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In comment 16442988 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I know we still got the draft so things can change, but I am pessimistic about this team’s chances this fall. I fear we’re going to be real bad.



If we get any kind of decent QB play I do not see us being horrible. If the O Line takes a step forward we will be a .500 team. If we get a QB and there is growth it will be a great season as a fan.

I don’t want to be in the business of rooting for DJ this season please


One thing I worry about is with Barkley being gone those 8 man boxes that SHOULD have made things much easier for the QB will be a thing of the past.
Like the FA acquisitions  
Maijay : 3/23/2024 6:22 am : link
Schoen on paper has improved our OL and the Burns trade can make the defense one to be reckoned with. If the QB position is not addressed in rounds one or two I think we better hope the defense can be stingy can keep the games low scoring.
Daniel Jones is mediocre at best and an injury away from never playing football again.That leaves Lock who will try to keep us in games with a conservative offense and keeping turnovers at a minimum. If this happens in next year's draft we might be drafting in the top five.
Until Neal proves he can be a competent RT  
Rudy5757 : 3/23/2024 9:34 am : link
This team is going nowhere. Signing 5 middling OL isn’t going to improve the OL by a lot. We won’t know about the OL until a few weeks into camp.

OL should be better
RB - same or worse
WR - same below average group
TE - underwhelming
QB - unknown

The Burns trade is a bit of a puzzle to me. He is a very good player but we gave up picks and a high salary. Pass rusher was definitely a need but seems like an overpay on a bad team. Reminds me of the Lenard Williams trade. Great players but giving up picks and top money doesn’t make sense for a cap strapped team with a lot of holes. We also lost Robinson/Williams and they haven’t been replaced.

We lost a very good Safety and a good CB. Maybe Belton is the guy but it does sound like the Giants wanted McKinney back, just not at the money he got. At CB even if you didn’t like Jackson, who is replacing him? CB to me is a very important spot.

10 days in and it’s hard to see an identity on O. The D improved the pass rush but also downgraded the defensive backfield.

Are we going to fill in key spots with aging vets on 1 year fliers? Unless Schoen starts to use some cap creativity, which he hasn’t done) it’s possible this team is worse now than where we were last year at this time. Let’s hope our new OL coach can finally get guy to play better rather than worse.

I am not high on how the roster is being built.
re: OL  
Toth029 : 3/23/2024 10:03 am : link
Much depends on the hiring of Carmen Bricillo. I feel comfortable going with Thomas, Runyan, JMS, and Eluemenor. Neal is the wildcard.
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Dr. D : 3/23/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16443564 Toth029 said:
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Much depends on the hiring of Carmen Bricillo. I feel comfortable going with Thomas, Runyan, JMS, and Eluemenor. Neal is the wildcard.

Coach Bricillo could be our MVP(erson) this yr.

If he gets our OL to stop sucking, he might deserve a statue outside the stadium.
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