Assuming Williams, Daniels, and Maye go 1,2,3 as expected. The Vikings trade up to 5 and take McCarthy. What would you do as the GM of the Giants?
A) Take the best receiver prospect available in Nabers or Odunze
B) Take the next best QB prospect in Nix or Penix
C) Pivot completely and take an Offensive Lineman (Joe Alt)
Keep in mind that trading down will be tough as a top QB prospect will not be available.
Otherwise, unless Nix or Pennix falls to the 2nd round which I think is highly doubtful at this point, then we are left with a developmental prospect in QB hell for several more years. I don't think we will have this high of a pick next year with improved o line play, even if Lock starts the whole year.
That seems to very true. The team’s upside with Daniel Jones is 6-11 if things turn out well.
No thanks on Penix. One QB with an extensive injury history is plenty.
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No thanks on Penix. One QB with an extensive injury history is plenty.
Second round pick is far less costly and can be moved on from almost immediately if he doesn’t show enough as a rookie.
Only way this happens is if NE trades down with Minnesota or if AZ/LAC don't want to take pick 11, 23 and perhaps a future 1st (which I think would entice one of them, but maybe not if Harbaugh continues to prioritize blue chip talent vs draft capital and AZ is really set on MHJ). I think the Vikings love JJM and Maye. They aren't going to just sit on their picks, so we would have to get lucky for once to have JJM at 6. That would be an absolute dream scenario to me. I'd be pacing all around for the first 75 minutes of the draft.
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No thanks on Penix. One QB with an extensive injury history is plenty.
Second round pick is far less costly and can be moved on from almost immediately if he doesn’t show enough as a rookie.
Not if he’s injured. A number 2 pick is a premium pick that can be used for other needs.
Not if he’s injured. A number 2 pick is a premium pick that can be used for other needs.
I don’t disagree, but I seriously doubt that Jones plays another snap for the Giants. They have to draft someone and Pratt in the fourth round ain’t gonna cut it.
There are top four at every position the draft actually.
Jones was drafted too early, but he is the second best QB in that draft class behind Murray
Jones was drafted too early, but he is the second best QB in that draft class behind Murray
I agree, I think only JJM and Daniels are worth trading up for (CW isn't an option. Just imo
D) Seppuku
The only way I see us not getting the QB they want is if the Patriots don't want to trade down and take the guy we want. Then, Schoen will go to backup plan and won't trade up for the 4th guy whom he doesn't have complete conviction
We would be unlikely to get a massive haul like for a QB but maybe someone really wants Alt or Nabers or Odunze and trades a lot for him. I think multiple trade downs BB style would be the best route to accumulate picks without a QB on the board. I think I'd prefer to take Odunze or Nabers over a series of trade downs unless we were lucky and a team wanted to trade a lot for Odunze/Alt/Nabers.
Dont overpay when your team is in need of major reinforcements on offense. yes qb is vital. But they can look at trading up for nix or penix versus a ransom for jj.
Dont overpay when your team is in need of major reinforcements on offense. yes qb is vital. But they can look at trading up for nix or penix versus a ransom for jj.
If they think JJM is the guy and they turn out to be right, pick 6, 47 and a 2025 1st plus 3rd is nothing. What you don't do is overpay for a guy you just feel good about. You have to have complete conviction and if you do, you do everything you can to get him. If the Patriots simply won't budge and take your guy, then you don't settle by trading up for the next best guy. So, it really comes down to how they view JJM and Maye, plus how NE views them.
Mostly does not work, it has worked well in case of mahomes and eli.
Mostly does not work, it has worked well in case of mahomes and eli.
And Josh Allen?
Mostly does not work, it has worked well in case of mahomes and eli.
And Lamar Jackson? Unless you're just talking about top 10 tradeups for QBs.
I said dont pay a ransom anyway. What you suggested is not a terrible cost, id consider it if they are convinced. But look at the article i posted. Trade ups are usually not successful.
I said dont pay a ransom anyway. What you suggested is not a terrible cost, id consider it if they are convinced. But look at the article i posted. Trade ups are usually not successful.
I don't have an athletic subscription and it's behind their pay wall sadly.
Point is, it mostly does not work. Giants will do well to draft a qb no doubt and create competition.
Yeah I agree with that and on that note. I think the Giants probably only have interest in trading up for Daniels and JJM or Maye. It's highly unlikely they have complete conviction in all 3. And with that said, I really think the only way we don't get a QB is if the Patriots take the guy we wanted at 3 (whether that be JJM or Maye) otherwise we will be able to make a better offer than the Vikings if it's for the guy we want. Or we don't have complete conviction in any of the qbs available via trade. If we have complete conviction in a qb available via trade the Vikings can't beat us as we have pick 6 in a draft with 7-8 blue chip players. They simply can't beat that.