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What happens if the Giants are locked out of the top 4 QBs?

JoeyBigBlue : 3/23/2024 5:35 pm
Assuming Williams, Daniels, and Maye go 1,2,3 as expected. The Vikings trade up to 5 and take McCarthy. What would you do as the GM of the Giants?

A) Take the best receiver prospect available in Nabers or Odunze

B) Take the next best QB prospect in Nix or Penix

C) Pivot completely and take an Offensive Lineman (Joe Alt)


Keep in mind that trading down will be tough as a top QB prospect will not be available.


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Trade down  
WillVAB : 3/23/2024 10:38 pm : link
Ensure you have the ammo to get your guy in ‘25.
Based on the hypothetical...  
bw in dc : 3/23/2024 10:44 pm : link
I would look for trade down partner. I have zero concern losing out one of the so called "big three" WRs.

Thomas, Jr is just as talented as any of those three if we were to get pick in the middle of the first round and he were available.

Or go OL. I would take Fuaga in a heartbeat. Very good multiple OL prospect.
RE: Based on the hypothetical...  
BleedBlue46 : 3/23/2024 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16444265 bw in dc said:
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I would look for trade down partner. I have zero concern losing out one of the so called "big three" WRs.

Thomas, Jr is just as talented as any of those three if we were to get pick in the middle of the first round and he were available.

Or go OL. I would take Fuaga in a heartbeat. Very good multiple OL prospect.


We would have to take Brian Thomas before picks 14-17 imo he won't make it past the Saints and Jaguars. 17 is the absolute latest. Maybe the Jaguars would trade us a haul for Odunze or Nabers? 2nd and future 1st maybe more if they loved him. They really need a wr without Ridley.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/23/2024 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16444125 Optimus-NY said:
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LOL
JoeyBigBlue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/23/2024 11:05 pm : link
I am actually mentally preparing myself for this scenario.

You can't panic. You adjust.

The Giants could do much worse than take a blue chip WR. You take the WR unless someone blows you way with a trade down offer.
WR or Edge  
JonC : 3/23/2024 11:37 pm : link
No more RTs in the top 10, they need weapons, desperately.
Spencer Rattler  
TinVA : 3/24/2024 12:15 am : link
You guys are going to be surprised how go a pro he will be.
RE: intersting article on success of trade ups  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 3/24/2024 7:24 am : link
In comment 16444212 hassan said:
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https://theathletic.com/5250162/2024/02/06/broncos-sean-payton-qb-draft-trades-mahomes/

Mostly does not work, it has worked well in case of mahomes and eli.


Probably the most famous one not working is trading up from 3 to 2 for Ryan Leaf.
RE: Spencer Rattler  
section125 : 3/24/2024 7:40 am : link
In comment 16444297 TinVA said:
[quote] You guys are going to be surprised how go a pro he will be. [/quote

I doubt it....has he been successful anywhere?
My solution would to pick Nabers at #1  
cosmicj : 3/24/2024 7:47 am : link
And then draft TWO QBs in the later rounds.
Don’t get cute or antsy  
Sammo85 : 3/24/2024 8:21 am : link
Take a tremendous talent you like and go from there.

Odunze/Nabers for me if no QB.

RE: Don’t get cute or antsy  
section125 : 3/24/2024 8:26 am : link
In comment 16444383 Sammo85 said:
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Take a tremendous talent you like and go from there.

Odunze/Nabers for me if no QB.


This
In that case I would start thinking about  
Shirk130 : 3/24/2024 8:26 am : link
the next regime.
RE: My solution would to pick Nabers at #1  
GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 8:34 am : link
In comment 16444360 cosmicj said:
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And then draft TWO QBs in the later rounds.


TWO? How about NO. The Giants don't have spare picks to waste taking two back end QBs.
RE: RE: My solution would to pick Nabers at #1  
cosmicj : 3/24/2024 8:36 am : link
In comment 16444391 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 16444360 cosmicj said:


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And then draft TWO QBs in the later rounds.



TWO? How about NO. The Giants don't have spare picks to waste taking two back end QBs.


They are lottery tickets for the most important position in sports.
RE: RE: RE: My solution would to pick Nabers at #1  
GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 8:39 am : link
In comment 16444392 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16444391 GFAN52 said:


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In comment 16444360 cosmicj said:


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And then draft TWO QBs in the later rounds.



TWO? How about NO. The Giants don't have spare picks to waste taking two back end QBs.



They are lottery tickets for the most important position in sports.


Giants have too many needs to spend two picks on developmental QBs. Not going to happen.
I don't think they are going to be locked out of the top 4 QBs.  
nygiantfan : 3/24/2024 8:47 am : link
JJ McCarthy will be there at #6 when they are on the clock.

And then it will get interesting as to what Schoen does since  
nygiantfan : 3/24/2024 8:48 am : link
he may have things ranked in different priorities than many think here.
RE: RE: intersting article on success of trade ups  
TyreeHelmet : 3/24/2024 9:11 am : link
In comment 16444213 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16444212 hassan said:


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https://theathletic.com/5250162/2024/02/06/broncos-sean-payton-qb-draft-trades-mahomes/

Mostly does not work, it has worked well in case of mahomes and eli.



And Josh Allen?


3 of the best qbs in the league were from trade ups. And once you have one of those guys, you can be a contender for a decade.

What about trade downs? What’s the success rate on those?

To me it all depends how they view the prospect. If they think highly of them, do whatever the cost is to get a franchise qb.

Take a stud WR at 6  
Paulie Walnuts : 3/24/2024 11:02 am : link
Trade to get back into 1st and take Penix
sean payton is about to get zach wilson  
Eric on Li : 3/24/2024 11:06 am : link
and i think the odds he ends up taking bo nix at #12 are pretty high (something albright has suggested as well).

if the top 4 QBs go ahead of nyg i think they should take a WR, then consider rolling the dice on penix if the medical pushes him back to the end of round 1.

jordan travis or another day 3 QB is probably a consideration also because why not.

it is crazy how the QBs have elevated in this draft. there have only been a few drafts in the last couple decades with 4 QBs in the top 10 and i dont think any with 4 qbs in the top 6.
RE: Take a stud WR at 6  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16444518 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Trade to get back into 1st and take Penix


I think that would be a solid move, but I wonder what it would cost? According to the charts our 2nd and 3rd could get us up the 26-30 range. Odunze and Pennix for our 1, 2 and 3 would get me excited. Pennix injury issues are real, but that's why he could be had for a mid round 2nd and 3rd versus a high 1st. I had been thinking Pennix would go round 1, but looking at the draft order I'm not sure I see that. The Raiders nd Broncos wouldn't take him unless via big trade down to trade back into rd2. Other teams after the Broncos are unlikely to take a QB in rd1. I'd absolutely take a chance on Pennix for our 2nd and 3rd.
More and more this is looking like reality  
JoeyBigBlue : 3/24/2024 1:57 pm : link
Im taking Rome Odunze and not looking back. There will be a new crop of QBs in 2025, that we haven’t even heard of yet.
RE: More and more this is looking like reality  
BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 2:46 pm : link
In comment 16444705 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Im taking Rome Odunze and not looking back. There will be a new crop of QBs in 2025, that we haven’t even heard of yet.


Would you trade pick 47 and 70 to move up into the end of rd1 for Pennix?
RE: RE: More and more this is looking like reality  
GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 2:52 pm : link
In comment 16444726 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16444705 JoeyBigBlue said:


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Im taking Rome Odunze and not looking back. There will be a new crop of QBs in 2025, that we haven’t even heard of yet.



Would you trade pick 47 and 70 to move up into the end of rd1 for Pennix?


Not a chance.
I would trade down  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/24/2024 3:06 pm : link
Secure a 2 + more.

1. Penix
2. Leggette
2. DT/CB
3. RB/Lb/S
RE: RE: some of these comments are absurd...  
dancing blue bear : 3/24/2024 3:06 pm : link
In comment 16444182 JesseS said:
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In comment 16444173 retiredmz said:


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"If the first 4 QBs are gone when the Giants Pick"...Schoen and Daboll will be gone ? C'mon...GMs make adjustments just like teams do during a game..



D) Seppuku


That would be a net positive for the gene pool…
In this scenario  
Jaenyg : 3/24/2024 3:25 pm : link
Giants have, at worst, their 2nd ranked player of the non QB blue chippers available to them, at best, their top ranked one.

Trust in your scouting process and add a difference maker.

I also think that the Giants have improved at scenario planning under Shoen, and they will have a plan to address QB should this go down.
……  
Micko : 3/24/2024 3:47 pm : link
Trade back and draft Nix. He is going to be the next Drew Brees.
RE: ……  
Jaenyg : 3/24/2024 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16444776 Micko said:
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Trade back and draft Nix. He is going to be the next Drew Brees.


If he is a future first ballot HoF’er, why wouldn’t we just pick him at 6???
might not take all 4 being gone  
bc4life : 3/24/2024 6:56 pm : link
They may only have a few of them ranked worthy of the 6th pick.
Pretty easy  
xtian : 3/25/2024 8:00 pm : link
1. pick the best WR.
2. if possible, trade down a little bit and draft the best WR and get another draft pick.
3. best OT--kind of doubt this because we've signed so many OL in free agency.
The best  
Amtoft : 3/25/2024 8:16 pm : link
thing for the Giants if they want to give DJ one more year is if 4 QBs go in the top 5. It allows them to say well damn we tried but had to take Nabers/MHj. Maybe grab a late round QB or move up for Nix/Penix if they start to fall into late 1. The Rattler lovers on this site are crazy. He is small, isn't that good, and is character issue guy. Give me the big, strong armed Milton who is raw and needs work or someone who has improved every year in Michael Pratt.
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