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Daboll: Jones is the guy

bigblueny : 3/24/2024 11:48 am
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The Giants’ head coach reiterated on Saturday the same sentiment that he expressed after the season, and what general manager Joe Schoen has said repeatedly throughout the offseason.

When healthy, Daniel Jones will be the Giants’ starting quarterback.

“We’re excited to have Drew [Lock], and he knows what his role is going to be,” Daboll told NFL Network on Saturday. “He’s going to get a lot of reps this spring, he needs to learn our system, but again excited to get Daniel back, when he gets back he’ll be the guy.”
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Subterfuge or honesty? I think it’s honesty, pretty easily. Makes too much sense.

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wigs in nyc : 3/24/2024 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16444623 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Again, what do you expect him to say? He’s the guy until he isn’t.


this is right, as many have said. i know im late to the party here, but just wanted to cast my ‘+1’. this is the hand they have to play until they see the flop
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ajr2456 : 3/24/2024 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16444812 ryanmkeane said:
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DJ is a “coach killer” except for the fact that Brian Daboll won coach of the year in 2022 in part because of the play of Jones.

They had a disaster start to the year and then a torn knee. Not sure that’s being a coach killer.

Shurmur was a horrible game manager and got fired because of it along with a pretty tough roster. We all saw what happened with Judge.

Not sure Jones had anything to do with those firings. He started playing better once they left.


Brian Daboll won coach of the year because he was able to coach around a bad QBs flaws until the league caught on.
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BigBlueShock : 3/24/2024 8:42 pm : link
In comment 16444925 short lease said:
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"What do you expect him to say?" .... what would the harm be if he said "we are going to have an open competition - the best man will win".

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And how exactly do you think that would help their quest to land a QB? Maybe you don’t think it’s a big deal to let the rest of the league know that you’re shopping hungry but I assure you, teams will take advantage
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2024 8:46 pm : link
So funny that ryan thinks Dabs won COY because of Jones' 'epic' 22 season when it really was due to Dabs' somehow taking a shitty roster to the playoffs.

Never change ryan. You're a treasure.
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short lease : 3/24/2024 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16444974 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16444925 short lease said:


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"What do you expect him to say?" .... what would the harm be if he said "we are going to have an open competition - the best man will win".

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And how exactly do you think that would help their quest to land a QB? Maybe you don’t think it’s a big deal to let the rest of the league know that you’re shopping hungry but I assure you, teams will take advantage


"Their quest to land a QB"? .... from where - FA? I would think it would help. Why would I want to sign with a team that had a franchise QB set in his starting role?

From the draft? Who cares what the players coming out of college think?


From Where?


I wasn't talking about a trade. Stroud was an unrestricted FA. Even if there was a trade .... he could make the statement of "open competition" after the contracts are signed like they already have been with Stroud. That sends a message to both sides - "Work".
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ryanmkeane : 3/25/2024 7:51 am : link
In comment 16445073 short lease said:
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In comment 16444974 BigBlueShock said:


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In comment 16444925 short lease said:


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"What do you expect him to say?" .... what would the harm be if he said "we are going to have an open competition - the best man will win".

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And how exactly do you think that would help their quest to land a QB? Maybe you don’t think it’s a big deal to let the rest of the league know that you’re shopping hungry but I assure you, teams will take advantage



"Their quest to land a QB"? .... from where - FA? I would think it would help. Why would I want to sign with a team that had a franchise QB set in his starting role?

From the draft? Who cares what the players coming out of college think?


From Where?


I wasn't talking about a trade. Stroud was an unrestricted FA. Even if there was a trade .... he could make the statement of "open competition" after the contracts are signed like they already have been with Stroud. That sends a message to both sides - "Work".

You’re the only person on earth who is using the word “epic.”

You are making things up.

I also said he won it “in part” due to the play of Jones, which is a fact.

You take statements here and pretend that anyone including me who is a Jones supporter says that that particular season was some magical transformation. It wasn’t. But it was a good season. He played pretty well overall and really well at times. He played better than Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, and Kirk Cousins straight up when he played against those teams.

So, yeah. It wasn’t some epic season. But he was pretty good to good. And now after a horrific month and a torn knee people want to give up on the guy. Now ajr will come back on and say “it wasn’t 6 games it was 3 years!!!” when I’ve already stated that the previous coaches did not get fired because of DJ, they got fired because of sheer incompetence.
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Mike in NY : 3/25/2024 7:59 am : link
In comment 16444925 short lease said:
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"What do you expect him to say?" .... what would the harm be if he said "we are going to have an open competition - the best man will win".

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Because that lowers Jones’s value in a trade and lets the entire world know we are looking for a QB. The only way you don’t do that is by unequivocally stating that Jones is the starter.
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ajr2456 : 3/25/2024 8:03 am : link
In comment 16445124 ryanmkeane said:
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So, yeah. It wasn’t some epic season. But he was pretty good to good. And now after a horrific month and a torn knee people want to give up on the guy. Now ajr will come back on and say “it wasn’t 6 games it was 3 years!!!” when I’ve already stated that the previous coaches did not get fired because of DJ, they got fired because of sheer incompetence.


You’re so obsessed with me.
I am just happy...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/25/2024 9:05 am : link
...that the QB situation is settled.

Now we can focus our attention on other things in the draft...
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TyreeHelmet : 3/25/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16445127 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16444925 short lease said:


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"What do you expect him to say?" .... what would the harm be if he said "we are going to have an open competition - the best man will win".

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Because that lowers Jones’s value in a trade and lets the entire world know we are looking for a QB. The only way you don’t do that is by unequivocally stating that Jones is the starter.


Jones has zero trade value and the entire league knows the Giants are looking for a QB.

I guess Daboll has to play the game but I don't understand why he can't just say we need better play from the position.
Jones is the guy  
xtian : 3/25/2024 8:05 pm : link
until he isn't.

Everyone is making way too big deal about this. what do you expect him to say? Right now, this instant, Jones is the NYG's best option at QB.
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HomerJones45 : 3/25/2024 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16444973 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 16444812 ryanmkeane said:


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DJ is a “coach killer” except for the fact that Brian Daboll won coach of the year in 2022 in part because of the play of Jones.

They had a disaster start to the year and then a torn knee. Not sure that’s being a coach killer.

Shurmur was a horrible game manager and got fired because of it along with a pretty tough roster. We all saw what happened with Judge.

Not sure Jones had anything to do with those firings. He started playing better once they left.



Brian Daboll won coach of the year because he was able to coach around a bad QBs flaws until the league caught on.
Which happened about mid-season. Funny how that worked. 7-2 start, 2-5-1 finish.
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