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I haven't heard "Smart, Tough, Dependable" once

Ben in Tampa : 3/25/2024 8:59 pm
this off-season.

The mantra was quoted by everyone in the organization for the first two years, but I haven't heard it once this off season. It was nowhere to be heard at the year-end press conference, nor did Schoen, Daboll, or Mara bring it up at the Owners' meetings.

I think it's more a matter of curiosity than some sort of significant philosophical shift, but I do think they've deliberately moved away using that messaging.

Maybe the Giants brass figured that line creates a credibility problem for them after the 2023 season? The offensive line was rotating in and out of the training room, they acquired a tight end so beat up he's ready to hang up the cleats, and their current starting quarterback can't pass a physical...

I'd probably have a hard time saying "smart, tough, dependable" with a straight face to the media if I was Schoen.


Eh. It's just a mantra.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/25/2024 9:02 pm : link
I'm sure it's still posted around the training facility.
I'm pretty sure they gave up,  
aka dbrny : 3/25/2024 9:24 pm : link
tore the posters off the wall, and threw them in the trash. Rumors suggest they are working on a new slogan that sets a more achievable goal for the team. Feel free to add your suggestions below this post.

RE: I'm pretty sure they gave up,  
Giantophile : 3/25/2024 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16446106 aka dbrny said:
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tore the posters off the wall, and threw them in the trash. Rumors suggest they are working on a new slogan that sets a more achievable goal for the team. Feel free to add your suggestions below this post.


'Fat, drunk, and stupid' seems more our speed.
Dismissive, cynical, flappable…  
knowledgetimmons : 3/25/2024 9:42 pm : link
Should be the mantra around here, considering the typical posts we see.

Op, I think you’ve raised a really good point. In hindsight, a tag line like that seems like something conjured up by an immature head coach who everyone wants to hitch the wagon to. I like Daboll, but maybe this is a sign of maturation by the people in charge.
Most of their recent draft picks  
Silver Spoon : 3/25/2024 9:54 pm : link
are neither tough or dependable. It’s like the time Reach put up the Super Bowl clock - no need for useless mantra.
RE: I'm pretty sure they gave up,  
Ben in Tampa : 3/25/2024 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16446106 aka dbrny said:
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tore the posters off the wall, and threw them in the trash. Rumors suggest they are working on a new slogan that sets a more achievable goal for the team. Feel free to add your suggestions below this post.


"Nobody wants to win more than us!"
Must mean they're targeting  
Capisce : 3/25/2024 10:00 pm : link
Caleb Williams...

Seriously, where do people come up with this stuff?
And the sub-narrative CONSISTENT.  
ConsistentGiantFan : 3/25/2024 10:25 pm : link
I heard that a lot the 1st 2 years....got my handle from it.
RE: Most of their recent draft picks  
DavidinBMNY : 3/25/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16446143 Silver Spoon said:
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are neither tough or dependable. It’s like the time Reach put up the Super Bowl clock - no need for useless mantra.
interesting point. They also drafted a lot of younger players on day 1 and 2 except JMS. In year 3 they may wantt to rethink that.
They replaced it with "Expectation."  
HammerTime75 : 3/25/2024 11:45 pm : link
Expectation is Wink is the DC

Expectation is we'll find a way to keep Saquon

Expectation is Daniel is our starting quarterback
The Pats have borrowed it this year.  
BH28 : 3/26/2024 12:00 am : link
Mayo just used it in an interview on sirius nfl radio
Listen  
GiantMike92 : 3/26/2024 4:08 am : link
to the Devin Singletary interview. He mention those terms multiple times.
Win one for the Sipper...  
gridirony : 3/26/2024 8:52 am : link
...of a medium Pepsi.
actions speak louder than words  
bc4life : 3/26/2024 9:45 am : link
look at the FA signings and the players they let go - dependable = healthy - had a lot to do with SB negotiations.
RE: Listen  
ZoneXDOA : 3/26/2024 10:30 am : link
In comment 16446217 GiantMike92 said:
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to the Devin Singletary interview. He mention those terms multiple times.
This. I'm sure it echoes throughout the building. As we get closer to draft day and after the draft when fielding questions about decisions made, Schoen and Dabes will play that on loop!
RE: Listen  
BronxBob : 3/26/2024 7:12 pm : link
In comment 16446217 GiantMike92 said:
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to the Devin Singletary interview. He mention those terms multiple times.


I knew one of the free agents had done it - thanks.
Just a BS slogan  
Bill in UT : 3/26/2024 7:51 pm : link
They're brought lots of guys aboard who don't fit the mantra-Taylor, Waller, Campbell, Simmons off the top of my head
It should be…  
Amtoft : 3/26/2024 8:39 pm : link
Please stay healthy
Or….  
thrunthrublue : 3/26/2024 9:17 pm : link
Not ranked 31st in overall offense…..now there is a slogan.
How about Winners never quit...oh wait ...what about  
kelly : 3/26/2024 11:19 pm : link
Losers never win....oh wait...how about

Just win in October...
Alienate, Squander, Disappoint  
Ham and Cheese : 3/30/2024 4:33 am : link
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