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Giants hiring James Ferentz as Asst. OL Coach

Strahan91 : 3/26/2024 12:42 pm
per Raanan and others
well now  
jvm52106 : 3/26/2024 12:43 pm : link
I like that hiring..
James Ferentz is the son of  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/26/2024 12:44 pm : link
Kirk Ferentz, the Iowa Hawkeyes head coach?
RE: James Ferentz is the son of  
Strahan91 : 3/26/2024 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16446630 Pete from Woodstock said:
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Kirk Ferentz, the Iowa Hawkeyes head coach?

Yep
UDFA who had a 10 year career and  
logman : 3/26/2024 12:46 pm : link
has two rings. One each with NE and DEN
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 12:46 pm : link
Tom Rock
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James Ferentz, recently retired NFL lineman for the past 9 years, 2x Super Bowl champ, and son of Iowa HC, was hired as assistant o-line coach by the Giants.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 12:46 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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Ferentz just retired as a player. Had spent the past seven seasons with the Patriots.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 12:47 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
The Giants announced that James Ferentz has been hired as assistant offensive line coach. The son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, he recently retired after a 10-year career as an offensive lineman. Ferentz spent the bulk of his career with the Patriots, so he has history with new OL coach Carmen Bricillo.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 12:47 pm : link

Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Ferentz won two Super Bowls with the Pats and recently retired. He was coached by Carmen Bricillo in New England. He is the son of Iowa HC Kirk Ferentz.
This sounds like  
section125 : 3/26/2024 12:48 pm : link
a great addition.
Good hire for what is generally a startup position. Patriots connect  
Ivan15 : 3/26/2024 12:50 pm : link
Doesn’t hurt.
His old man  
English Alaister : 3/26/2024 12:50 pm : link
Is a top 3 OL coach... maybe ever.
Papa Ferentz is fairly renowned for  
GiantTuff1 : 3/26/2024 12:51 pm : link
producing good linemen right?
Fantastic news for the OL  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/26/2024 12:52 pm : link
Getting an asst. with experience with Carmen is huge!
That appears to be a very good hire  
kelly : 3/26/2024 12:53 pm : link
He will also be able to provide insight into o linemen in the upcoming draft. Very valuable.
Easy transition  
ajr2456 : 3/26/2024 12:55 pm : link
The Giants offense is just as inept as his dads.
Gotta love those Iowa linemen. Tough as nails.  
Anakim : 3/26/2024 12:56 pm : link
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RE: Papa Ferentz is fairly renowned for  
JohnG in Albany : 3/26/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16446647 GiantTuff1 said:
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producing good linemen right?


This one came from his own house.
Tony Sparano's kid  
Biteymax22 : 3/26/2024 1:00 pm : link
actually did pretty good here as Asst OL coach. So why not the same for Ferentz's kid?

And before the "did Sparano do good here?" people, our OL took a step back when he left to take the Colts job and the Colts OL got better. (18th in 2022 to 3rd in 2023 via PFF)
Also a Scarnecchia acolyte...  
Anakim : 3/26/2024 1:02 pm : link
He definitely had good O-Line coaches with his dad, Scarnecchia, Cregg, and Bricillo.
.  
Banks : 3/26/2024 1:04 pm : link
Iowa can't score for crap, but their linemen are always solid
Nothing Burger  
Semipro Lineman : 3/26/2024 1:09 pm : link
/joking


RE: His old man  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2024 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16446646 English Alaister said:
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Is a top 3 OL coach... maybe ever.


Awesome OL Coach.
Nice hire  
Matt M. : 3/26/2024 1:15 pm : link
Between the new coaches and the FA acquisitions, I am optimistic about our OL and our offense improving. That doesn't mean I have unrealistic expectations. But, even getting to middle of the pack would be a significant improvement.
RE: Tony Sparano's kid  
Optimus-NY : 3/26/2024 1:16 pm : link
In comment 16446673 Biteymax22 said:
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actually did pretty good here as Asst OL coach. So why not the same for Ferentz's kid?

And before the "did Sparano do good here?" people, our OL took a step back when he left to take the Colts job and the Colts OL got better. (18th in 2022 to 3rd in 2023 via PFF)


Never shoulda let him go.
RE: RE: Tony Sparano's kid  
Biteymax22 : 3/26/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16446713 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16446673 Biteymax22 said:


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actually did pretty good here as Asst OL coach. So why not the same for Ferentz's kid?

And before the "did Sparano do good here?" people, our OL took a step back when he left to take the Colts job and the Colts OL got better. (18th in 2022 to 3rd in 2023 via PFF)



Never shoulda let him go.


In retrospect, yeah he should have stayed and Bobby Johnson should have gone.
His  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 1:27 pm : link
experience at center will help Schmitz.
RE: Also a Scarnecchia acolyte...  
Ron Johnson : 3/26/2024 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16446679 Anakim said:
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He definitely had good O-Line coaches with his dad, Scarnecchia, Cregg, and Bricillo.



fingers crossed he took copious notes
RE: His old man  
BlueHurricane : 3/26/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16446646 English Alaister said:
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Is a top 3 OL coach... maybe ever.


This! His old man may not be able to put the ball in the end zone much but he can coach the shit out of a lineman.
Front page  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 2:02 pm : link
update....
Giants Add Assistant Offensive Line Coach; Brian Daboll Addresses Media - ( New Window )
How I hope he can draft 'em  
Sec 103 : 3/26/2024 2:36 pm : link
as well!
I’m looking forward to Y28s comments.  
Spider56 : 3/26/2024 2:50 pm : link
He’s been monitoring this position for several months.
RE: RE: Papa Ferentz is fairly renowned for  
SirLoinOfBeef : 3/26/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16446667 JohnG in Albany said:
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producing good linemen right?



This one came from his own house.


Technically, it came from his...

Spider56  
Y28 : 3/26/2024 3:16 pm : link
I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.
RE: His  
gtt350 : 3/26/2024 3:31 pm : link
In comment 16446734 Eric from BBI said:
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experience at center will help Schmitz.


maybe he can start for him
RE: Spider56  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2024 3:55 pm : link
In comment 16446906 Y28 said:
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I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.


Like the strength coach who went to Florida, I wonder if Smith waa told to look for other opportunities.
RE: Spider56  
Spider56 : 3/26/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16446906 Y28 said:
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I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.


Thanks much … be well, be safe, be happy!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/26/2024 6:47 pm : link
This isn't the son who was their OC right? That dude was fired for Iowa's anemic offense.
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bLiTz 2k : 3/26/2024 7:18 pm : link
In comment 16447104 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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This isn't the son who was their OC right? That dude was fired for Iowa's anemic offense.


Nah that was Brian I think. James was playing last year.
RE: RE: Spider56  
GiantTuff1 : 3/26/2024 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16446947 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16446906 Y28 said:


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I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.



Like the strength coach who went to Florida, I wonder if Smith waa told to look for other opportunities.

I think this highly likely.
RE: Spider56  
Mike in NY : 3/26/2024 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16446906 Y28 said:
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I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.


Connections are how people break in as Quality Control coaches, Assistant to Position coaches, etc. Mike Treier had a similar background when he became a coach for us and look how many regimes he has survived. Smith’s experience doesn’t differ from many who hold that role. Look at Bricillo’s background before he was hired by New England.
RE: RE: Spider56  
Spider56 : 3/26/2024 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16447142 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16446906 Y28 said:


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I am very happy with this hire.

My angst had to do with the previous hire. A well known fact that the Giants O Line has been terrible for 10 years.

Knowing that, the decision to hire Daboll's high school football coaches son last year (someone with zero NFL experience as either a player or coach) was maddening. Especially with the fact that he was replacing a very skilled NFL coach.

And it got even worse when Chris Smith decided to move on from Daboll's Giants to join James Madison last week.

Hopefully we can now move on and the team of Bricillo and Ferentz is the talk of the league beginning this season with them finally turning this mess around.



Connections are how people break in as Quality Control coaches, Assistant to Position coaches, etc. Mike Treier had a similar background when he became a coach for us and look how many regimes he has survived. Smith’s experience doesn’t differ from many who hold that role. Look at Bricillo’s background before he was hired by New England.


Why rationalize what was obviously an error in initial judgement? Going into last year the Giants were seriously dependent on the growth and development of the young OL. Expecting a guy with Smith’s resume to be able to facilitate that learning was a mistake. It looks like Dabs realized and fixed it.
RE: His old man  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/26/2024 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16446646 English Alaister said:
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Is a top 3 OL coach... maybe ever.


For a non perennial power house who pits out better NFL OL? In fact I’d suggest his record of putting out NFL level OL is almost unmatched over his time as HC.
Mike in NY  
Y28 : 3/26/2024 10:32 pm : link
I have posted about the Smith hire previously. No question that his Dad, Jerry Smith, was an incredible HS coach. But as I have mentioned, he didn't just coach Brian Daboll.

He also coached the following HS players that have grown to significant ranks in the NFL:

Tom Telesco (GM of the Raiders)
Chris Polian (Washington's director of Pro Personnel)
Kyle Smith (Asst GM of the Falcons)
David Caldwell (Eagles Head of Personnel)

None of these 4 ever decided to hire Jerry's son Chris and get him his first NFL experience. But Daboll knew how bad the Giants O Line has been, yet still hired a first timer.

Again, I am very happy with the Ferentz hire, but can only conclude (as I said from the day it happened) that it was a really poor decision to hire Chris Smith.

Time to move on.
Y28  
cosmicj : 3/27/2024 6:40 am : link
As usual, you’re an invaluable poster. That Asst OL coach hire is one of the overlooked mistakes Daboll made last offseason. Glad to see it’s being corrected.
RE: RE: His old man  
bluefin : 3/27/2024 8:07 am : link
In comment 16446708 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16446646 English Alaister said:


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Is a top 3 OL coach... maybe ever.



Awesome OL Coach.

+1
The new staff/coaching hires  
Mattman : 3/27/2024 9:12 am : link
Give me hope as they are promising
back in the 90s  
djm : 3/27/2024 9:18 am : link
I could swear Kirk Ferentz was one of the candidates for the HC job opening here. I want to say during either the Reeves/Wandstadt lead up or maybe the Fassel lead up. I remember seeing his name among some of the candidates. MAybe they never even interviewed him but his name was mentioned.
RE: ...  
TheBlueprintNC : 3/27/2024 11:37 am : link
In comment 16446635 Eric from BBI said:
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Tom Rock
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James Ferentz, recently retired NFL lineman for the past 9 years, 2x Super Bowl champ, and son of Iowa HC, was hired as assistant o-line coach by the Giants.


Love this hire.. loving this offseason for both staff and talent.. they are going to fix the OL
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Spider56 : 3/27/2024 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16447529 TheBlueprintNC said:
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In comment 16446635 Eric from BBI said:


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Tom Rock
@TomRock_Newsday
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James Ferentz, recently retired NFL lineman for the past 9 years, 2x Super Bowl champ, and son of Iowa HC, was hired as assistant o-line coach by the Giants.



Love this hire.. loving this offseason for both staff and talent.. they are going to fix the OL


And no more SB dancing in the backfield ..
No more ...  
Manny in CA : 3/27/2024 1:07 pm : link

Our QBs enduring 11 sack afternoons (and walking around like zombies after the beatings). Things are improving, I like it.
RE: back in the 90s  
KDavies : 3/27/2024 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16447342 djm said:
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I could swear Kirk Ferentz was one of the candidates for the HC job opening here. I want to say during either the Reeves/Wandstadt lead up or maybe the Fassel lead up. I remember seeing his name among some of the candidates. MAybe they never even interviewed him but his name was mentioned.


It was discussed when Shurmur was hired. He seems to have had his name rumored with the Giants forever, so my guess is you are correct in your recollection.
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Carson53 : 3/27/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16446637 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
The Giants announced that James Ferentz has been hired as assistant offensive line coach. The son of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, he recently retired after a 10-year career as an offensive lineman. Ferentz spent the bulk of his career with the Patriots, so he has history with new OL coach Carmen Bricillo.
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Heck, I thought he retired awhile ago. He wasn't a bad player for the Pats. So he can be like an 'intern' so to speak.
Can people TRY and stay on point  
Carson53 : 3/27/2024 1:46 pm : link
Why do some always seem to go off on different tangents.
It's not a Kirk Ferentz or Shurmur thread...
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