A good friend is plugged into the Vikings organization and has given me info over the last 10 years and has usually been spot on.
Last night he told me that the Vikings were trading into the top 5 as we all expect, and they are targeting Drake Maye.
What was more interesting is that if Maye is gone, they will pivot to Pennix in the top 5.
Take it for what it's worth.
I love that you called your friend an asshat, lol
They can take Pennix at 11 though without giving up a thing.
Would you take him at 6?
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That Penix workout was manna from heaven for the Giants.
Would you take him at 6?
Fuck yes.
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That Penix workout was manna from heaven for the Giants.
Would you take him at 6?
I don't know how you can be happy taking McCarthy or Maye at 6 but not Penix (assuming you're confident he's healthy).
I thought that was the big takeaway from the workout - Penix is healthy enough to be an explosive athlete.
He's a better passer than both McCarthy and Maye.
It’s been kind accepted they want to trade into the top 5. I expect the Giants may as well.
If he's their best option (for QB) at 6, go for it! Can't hit a home run without getting up to bat and taking your swings.
If he doesn't work out, you should know within a couple of years, then you take another shot. We ain't winning squat with the current QB room (and I think Schoen and Daboll know this).
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In comment 16451179 Go Terps said:
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That Penix workout was manna from heaven for the Giants.
Would you take him at 6?
I don't know how you can be happy taking McCarthy or Maye at 6 but not Penix (assuming you're confident he's healthy).
I thought that was the big takeaway from the workout - Penix is healthy enough to be an explosive athlete.
He's a better passer than both McCarthy and Maye.
With a worse injury past.
I could see San Diego accumulating picks and accepting a deal from Minnesota for the 11th and 23rd overall picks in the 1st round. Arizona has something like 13 picks already in this year's draft. They need quality over quantity. The Chargers might be more open to accumulating some picks, but not without dipping down too much. 11 would be just right for the Chargers and Harbaugh. They can pick a RT (they have Slater at OLT). Then can then take a WR at 23.
Arizona trading down with the Giants from 4 to 6 would be possible only if Arizona isn't soley fixated on MHJr. If they don't mind taking Nabers or Odunze at 6 instead of MHJr at 4, then we're talking turkey. It all depends on that with them. We know there's a relationship between Ossenfort in the Arizona front office and Cowden in the NYG's front office already from their days in Tennessee.
Maybe with a trade down.
Can't get here soon enough.
Disagree. Penix was strong targeting Odunze, a solid X. Well, Minny has Jefferson, who can play X as well as Z. Penix has proven he can feed a stud receiver downfield.
Exactly this.
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Penix doesn't seem like an ideal fit for what the Vikings like to do on offense.
Disagree. Penix was strong targeting Odunze, a solid X. Well, Minny has Jefferson, who can play X as well as Z. Penix has proven he can feed a stud receiver downfield.
The Vikings are a heavy intermediate crossing team. The bulk of there passing game is over the middle. Not the strength of Penix who likes to throw to the outside receivers.
The idea is to move to 3 for Maye (if he's there), or then to 5 for Pennix.
The questions i have, albeit from a guy typing on his couch right now....was his in-pocket maneuvering, seemed to me that off platform or sliding away from/feeling pressure was not his strong suit. Didn't look like an "athlete" in the pocket to me. But again, I'm far from a scout.
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In comment 16451185 Eric from BBI said:
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Penix doesn't seem like an ideal fit for what the Vikings like to do on offense.
Disagree. Penix was strong targeting Odunze, a solid X. Well, Minny has Jefferson, who can play X as well as Z. Penix has proven he can feed a stud receiver downfield.
The Vikings are a heavy intermediate crossing team. The bulk of there passing game is over the middle. Not the strength of Penix who likes to throw to the outside receivers.
I think KOC was catering to Cousins' strengths a bit. But targeting and relying on a big X is something Cousins and Penix share. There is a lot of faith in Minny that KOC can and will develop a QB successfully and with intention. I always felt Penix was a great fit for the Vikings. And you can be certain if they select Penix, KOC will be aware of his abilities and how he will fit into the offense he wants to run.
The questions i have, albeit from a guy typing on his couch right now....was his in-pocket maneuvering, seemed to me that off platform or sliding away from/feeling pressure was not his strong suit. Didn't look like an "athlete" in the pocket to me. But again, I'm far from a scout.
He was very athletic prior to the two ACLs.
Agree, I can't see NE moving to 11.
if this turns into a 5 qb top 10...wow.
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In comment 16451185 Eric from BBI said:
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Penix doesn't seem like an ideal fit for what the Vikings like to do on offense.
Disagree. Penix was strong targeting Odunze, a solid X. Well, Minny has Jefferson, who can play X as well as Z. Penix has proven he can feed a stud receiver downfield.
The Vikings are a heavy intermediate crossing team. The bulk of there passing game is over the middle. Not the strength of Penix who likes to throw to the outside receivers.
Exactly.
I'll take that prognosis over a 24 year old with shoulder and knee injuries.
Oct 20, 2018 Non-NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3
Nov 28, 2020 Non-NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3
Nov 2, 2019 Non-NFL Shoulder Clavicle Fracture
Oct 2, 2021 Non-NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Separation
The Giants would be inviting future disaster.
this is Cousins 2022 (to get full year numbers)
I still think NE will "stick and pick" and take a QB at #3, or would want a "king's ransom" to move to #6, something a lot more than #6, #47, and our #1 next year.
I would be really surprised if the Vikings traded multiple picks to move up for Penix.
at least they end up with MHJ or whoever the best position player is. who knows may even be able to trade that pick for a big return like arizona did last year w/ will anderson.
Hello Marvin Harrison Jr.
this is Cousins 2022 (to get full year numbers)
See my other thread about Albright talking to NFL execs before the championship game. They said Penix isn't really adept at throwing over the middle. Michigan then dared Penix to beat them throwing there and he couldn't.
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he seemed to use the middle of the field plenty.
this is Cousins 2022 (to get full year numbers)
See my other thread about Albright talking to NFL execs before the championship game. They said Penix isn't really adept at throwing over the middle. Michigan then dared Penix to beat them throwing there and he couldn't.
imo Penix has the biggest adjustment of all 5 qbs to the NFL, which is ironic because i think he is the oldest. Michigan exposed him in a few ways but in his defense it was the first time he was getting that kind of test outside the p12. that is going to be his experience every week in the nfl, and it's possible he has worse receivers around him than odunze, polk, mcmillan.
he has arm talent and athleticism but he has a steep adjustment bc he's not a natural runner so he is going to have to become a really high end processor or else his arm talent wont matter.
I hope I’m wrong, but I have a sinking feeling that Jones, Lock, & DeVito might be the QB room this fall. I pray to God I’m wrong.
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looking athletic in a 40, high jump etc is great for him but I think is somewhat masking things
The questions i have, albeit from a guy typing on his couch right now....was his in-pocket maneuvering, seemed to me that off platform or sliding away from/feeling pressure was not his strong suit. Didn't look like an "athlete" in the pocket to me. But again, I'm far from a scout.
He was very athletic prior to the two ACLs.
Right, but he did in fact have those two ACLs lol. Again this is me looking at limited "film" as a novice.