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2024 BBI Mock Draft – DISCUSSION Thread

Matt G : 4/1/2024 6:40 am
We will use this as a discussion thread to keep the SELECTIONS thread uncluttered. These threads will be used for the duration of the draft.

While we are starting early, the clock won’t officially start until Monday, April 8th at 9am. The draft will run from 9am to 6pm Monday through Friday until the start of the NFL Draft (Thursday, April 25th) or the completion of the 6th round. Please remember to use the DISCUSSION thread so we can keep this thread uncluttered.

Once a team is on the clock, they will have two hours to make a selection. If a team goes on the clock after 4pm, their two-hour window will roll over to the next day. For example, if you go on the clock at 4:30pm, you will have until 9:30 am to make a selection. Picks may be made between 6pm and 9am if GMs are online and following the draft thread. The time limit only applies during the 9am to 6pm timeframe. If the two-hour time limit expires, I will make a pick using any list that the GM for the team has sent me in advance (send lists to the email address in my profile) or in the absence of a list, I will use the GBN Big Board with a little discretion so as not make an obvious dumb pick (e.g. Kansas City won’t be taking a QB in the 1st round this year).

In consideration of your fellow participants, and so we can maintain strong momentum throughout the draft process, please continue to actively monitor the thread over the next two weeks. As always, I will provide "friendly reminder" emails as your upcoming picks approach.

If a GM misses a pick AND fails make some form of contact with me (either via email, posting on the draft DISCUSSION thread, or providing me with a prospect list) prior to their next pick, they will have just 15 minutes to make their next selection. With two consecutive missed picks, their spot will be forfeited and reassigned to one of the BBIers who have expressed an interest to fill the vacancy. If you expect to miss a pick, please send me your draft board and I will make the selection on your behalf.

Per usual, we will also hold an undrafted free agency process that will start immediately after the final pick of RD6. Anyone who wants to participate can select up to 5 UDFAs. Selections are made on a first come, first serve basis. I am not making any changes to this process, so please don’t ask.

Please utilize the BBI Mock Draft Spreadsheet. The spreadsheet contains the draft order (RD1-6) by team and GM with a fairly comprehensive list based on the GBN Big Board (as well as several other prospects that did not make the GBN Big Board). I will try to keep the spreadsheet and thread updated as often as possible… Good luck!
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BBB  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2024 3:35 pm : link
I like your throwing a dart analogy. Very apt. What a sad state of affairs.

Kind of glad my turn is coming up close to the end of the day at work. Give me time to review my options more closely before I make a selection. Last year, in a later round, I chose someone already taken and had to rush the choice. Don't want a repeat of that.
RE: Should have mentioned safety too.  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 3:35 pm : link
In comment 16455218 Big Blue Blogger said:
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So there's a lot for MadPlaid to choose from. I'm not sure the selection was dramatically better at 39. The big difference would have been getting two of these prospects instead of one.


But we got Brian Burns who likely is better than any of them.
Apologize  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:05 pm : link
been in meetings all day. Give me one second to see who is available.
Thanks Amtoft  
Matt G : 4/3/2024 4:07 pm : link
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Braden Fiske  
Matt G : 4/3/2024 4:13 pm : link
Was a guy who really grew on me... I get the concern over arm length and being a bit stiff, but it's hard not to like him... Guy just plays with his hair on fire and is a great athlete... He may not always appear on the stat sheet but he messes up a lot of plays... He actually reminds me of a more athletic version of former Giant Christian Peter.
Patrick Paul...  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:19 pm : link
Big, agile, and long. Really I think Raiders could be looking at Penix who I think will be there for them. They need a RT, but with Penix you would need a really good pass blocking RT. Paul gets by with his length a little to much at time, but he has tremendous upside and is a good fit here.

I also considered WR and CB as options, but just couldn't pass up on the monster Paul.
Chris Braswell  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 4:22 pm : link
Pass rusher with the highest ceiling and most upside. Saints had a dreadful pass rush with 34 sacks last year. They signed Chase Young to a 1 year deal and add Braswell with their 2nd pick. Saints were very close to picking Verse first but the question marks on the line and Fashunu was a must draft. The way it worked out the Saints would not have been able to get a great OT here in Round 2 but Braswell has the ability to be as good of a pass rusher as any in this draft class.
Indy's pick is in  
Go Terps : 4/3/2024 4:23 pm : link
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RE: Indy's pick is in  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 4:24 pm : link
In comment 16455293 Go Terps said:
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I was deciding between Sweat and Braswell. Great pick. Especially with Bijan in the division I was tempted to do it.
RE: As MadPlaid said, you can throw a dart and hit a NYG position of need.  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16455212 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Looks like there's value at CB, LB, OL, maybe even EDGE and TE. After four more picks, that list might narrow to CB and LB, but it's hard to predict.


How do you leave WR off that list as well as DT! Really I would be looking at one of the top DTs left and there are some really good ones. Same with WR and whatever I missed on with those two I would get the other in the 3rd round.
RE: RE: Indy's pick is in  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16455299 Mr. Nickels said:
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I was deciding between Sweat and Braswell. Great pick. Especially with Bijan in the division I was tempted to do it.


I am not a Sweat guy. He is going to eat himself out of the league. He is a two down player at best. I am just glad MadPlaid can't draft him hahaha. If you want a Texas DT we want Murphy who is a stud. Of course like this draft he will probably be gone.
RE: RE: RE: Indy's pick is in  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16455304 Amtoft said:
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I was deciding between Sweat and Braswell. Great pick. Especially with Bijan in the division I was tempted to do it.



I am not a Sweat guy. He is going to eat himself out of the league. He is a two down player at best. I am just glad MadPlaid can't draft him hahaha. If you want a Texas DT we want Murphy who is a stud. Of course like this draft he will probably be gone.


Yes that was part of my consideration too.
The top 4 guys on my board are still there  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2024 4:31 pm : link
Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants
I find that psychedelics assist in the process of player selection...  
Optimus-NY : 4/3/2024 4:35 pm : link
"Like, groovy MAAAN, GROOOOVYYY!"



Source: Aaron Rodgers
RE: The top 4 guys on my board are still there  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:39 pm : link
In comment 16455311 Mike in NY said:
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Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants


I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.
RE: RE: The top 4 guys on my board are still there  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:40 pm : link
In comment 16455323 Amtoft said:
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Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants



I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.


I do this because I have like 6 DTs and I would assume one would make it to round 3.
Ok back to meetings... uggghh  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 4:44 pm : link
long day. Go Giants... Don't mess this up Madplaid hahaha
I think this draft is interesting. Deep at a few positions  
Andy in Halifax : 4/3/2024 4:46 pm : link
I love that Lassiter pick a few selections ago. But I like a lot of the picks, good early part of the draft. I get the sense the depth drops off not long from here? Maybe day 3.
RE: RE: The top 4 guys on my board are still there  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2024 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16455323 Amtoft said:
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Can't decide who I would take if I were the Giants



I do... I would go WR here and I won't say which one until he is picked, but we need a WR and there are a couple that are really good.


I will say that one of the 4 on my list is a WR. Don't want to divulge my whole list because I could still look at all 4 names if any are on the board when I pick next for the Ravens.
I would take Jordan Morgan here for NYG.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/3/2024 4:57 pm : link
The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways.

Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?
RE: I would take Jordan Morgan here for NYG.  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 5:02 pm : link
In comment 16455352 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways.

Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?


There is one.
RE: I would take Jordan Morgan here for NYG.  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 5:21 pm : link
In comment 16455352 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways.

Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?


I only see 2-3 more before the drop off happens again. This draft is deep in WRs because a lot of them have gone, but it only lasts until most like the beginning of the 3rd. That is why I would go WR now and not wait. DTs are a little deeper, but most of the draft is super strong until the top of the 4th when talent isn't nearly as good.
Max Melton  
uncledave : 4/3/2024 5:26 pm : link
Worth a look here for the Gmen. Adisa Isaac as well.
bunch of good options for nyg here  
Eric on Li : 4/3/2024 5:42 pm : link
but think i'd go with 1 of the michigan guys. jenkins, sainristril, or roman wilson.

melton, dorlus, jalynn polk all guys id consider as well. corely and wilson too.

may go with one of the DL bc i think that's the position that probably drops off quickest. should still be good WR in round 3. corners you can get lucky in mid rounds as well.
Sorry for the delay  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2024 6:29 pm : link
dealing with a family issue at home, it had to take prescendence. I'm a little distracted, so I'm not sure I made the best choice. There were a few DBs I really liked at this point. Chose to go Safety. Nubin sounds like the kind of ball hawking playmaker the Giants sorely need. Seriously considered Rakestraw and Melton. Also, liked the TE Sanders.

Please let me know what you think and who you may have gone with instead of Nubin.

Cheers
RE: Sorry for the delay  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 6:36 pm : link
In comment 16455507 MadPlaid said:
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dealing with a family issue at home, it had to take prescendence. I'm a little distracted, so I'm not sure I made the best choice. There were a few DBs I really liked at this point. Chose to go Safety. Nubin sounds like the kind of ball hawking playmaker the Giants sorely need. Seriously considered Rakestraw and Melton. Also, liked the TE Sanders.

Please let me know what you think and who you may have gone with instead of Nubin.

Cheers


I am sorry you are dealing with a family issue. Never apologize for that as family always first.

I won't be to hard on your for picking a Safety when really all the safeties are basically the same throughout the 2nd-5th round. You know Dabs wants a play maker at WR and we needing a starting DT, but hey an average safety is good too.
Nubin was one of the 4  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2024 6:38 pm : link
Although he was the one I thought you were least likely to go with
Can't afford the luxury  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 6:39 pm : link
to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks.
RE: Can't afford the luxury  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 6:44 pm : link
In comment 16455520 Mr. Nickels said:
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to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks.


Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan.
RE: Nubin was one of the 4  
allstarjim : 4/3/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16455519 Mike in NY said:
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Although he was the one I thought you were least likely to go with


Nubin was also on my short list.
RE: RE: Can't afford the luxury  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16455524 Amtoft said:
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to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks.



Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan.


Plus if you go QB in Round 1 come one man... Let's give him a weapon to help out on. Now MadPlaid is going to grab a WR next round and it won't be as good and you bypass one of the really good DTs because they won't make it to the 4th.
RE: RE: RE: Can't afford the luxury  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 6:48 pm : link
In comment 16455529 Amtoft said:
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to go Safety here. I would have gone with WR Pearsall or RB Benson or Brooks.



Pearsall is my top WR also along with one other who I love. That is where I would have went. Ricky is so under rated, runs great routes, has great speed, great hands, good moves. Really a big fan.



Plus if you go QB in Round 1 come one man... Let's give him a weapon to help out on. Now MadPlaid is going to grab a WR next round and it won't be as good and you bypass one of the really good DTs because they won't make it to the 4th.


JJ McCarthy and Ricky Pearsall would be an ideal first 2 rounds for me.
Nubin is interesting but with his testing id be surprised if he  
Eric on Li : 4/3/2024 6:49 pm : link
goes that high. not saying it's a bad pick just a hard one to evaluate. any stud DB at #47 is a worthwhile pick, im not sure id trust any DB who just ran a 4.62 with only a 30 inch vert to be a stud though. McKinney was a legitimate first rounder on tape who tested better than that and it still knocked him down a round. safety as a position is tricky because some are paid like premium position players (McKinney included) and then there are bunch who have sat on the market or taken small 1 year deals. So teams dont value the position consistently.

if it were my pick id have probably taken 1 of the premium position michigan guys because we saw them make big plays in the games at the highest competition level (and the 3 highest on board right now tested as dynamic 90%+ athletes as well). i think those are 3 very high floor but also solid ceiling players who fit.
Rakestraw  
English Alaister : 4/3/2024 6:52 pm : link
For me personally.

CB a bigger need and higher value position. Talent is similar.

Not a terrible pick though at all... especially given new DC's love of 3 safety looks.
Teed up for Corley a terrific WR imv for #47 pick  
Rick in Dallas : 4/3/2024 7:40 pm : link
But Nubin is a nice addition to secondary.
Good job.
Boylhart gave Nubin a 1st round grade  
Ira : 4/3/2024 8:04 pm : link
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RE: Teed up for Corley a terrific WR imv for #47 pick  
Amtoft : 4/3/2024 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16455578 Rick in Dallas said:
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But Nubin is a nice addition to secondary.
Good job.


Corley is my other WR... I love Corley also who reminds me of Hakeem Nicks.

Nubin is so slow and I know people say he had the same speed of McKinney, but I think that is more the exception rather than the rule. Like someone said X had tape that was insane and his time dropped him.
Thank you to everyone who provided me feedback  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2024 8:14 pm : link
I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice.

Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration.

I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late.

Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha

Cheers
RE: Thank you to everyone who provided me feedback  
Mr. Nickels : 4/3/2024 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16455597 MadPlaid said:
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I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice.

Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration.

I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late.

Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha

Cheers


Best part will be when Nubin is a stud and you can come back and say i told ya so : )
RE: Thank you to everyone who provided me feedback  
Mike in NY : 4/3/2024 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16455597 MadPlaid said:
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I appreciate it all. The complimentary and the critical. It is all welcome. I wish I wasn't so distracted at the end. I like my pick, but I think I could have made a better choice.

Corley and Pearsall were on my radar, and I don't think I spent enough time evaluating them in comparison to the DBs. If I did a better job of reviewing and comparing, I think I would have gone with one of them. I did take a look at RB too, Brooks to be specific. But once I saw he was coming off a recent ACL injury, I dropped him from consideration.

I hadn't thought about the deemphasis on safeties lately in the NFL. So, I think I missed on that evaluation which makes me second guess about Nubin in the end. One of the CBs or WRs would have probably been the wiser choice. Oh well. Too late.

Second guessing must be a top problem for all sports managers. Hopefully they all have good therapists. Ha

Cheers


As I said, Nubin was on the short list so not like you took a S nobody was expecting here. I will post when the other 3 names are selected just because I will likely go BPA for the Ravens and don’t want to reveal the names or I think you have my email. Hopefully the hiccups of today can right themselves or maybe it is just wishful thinking so I can get Pick 62 in tomorrow and likely won’t be on the clock until next week.
Mr. Nickels  
MadPlaid : 4/3/2024 8:55 pm : link
LOL, So long as he is a stud on the Giants. The Giants haven’t had a truly studdly safety in some time. X came close.
RE: I would take Jordan Morgan here for NYG.  
Optimus-NY : 4/3/2024 9:13 pm : link
In comment 16455352 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The OL is still questionable, and he could help in a lot of ways.

Is there a WR who really stands out from the rest at this point?


I'd have selected Morgan ahead of Nubin as well. Not a knock on Nubin though. It's more about positional value. At the end of the day though, the NYG need all the help that they can get.
Madplaid there are a lot of people high on Nubin  
Eric on Li : 4/3/2024 9:24 pm : link
bob mcginn had him top 55 a few weeks ago and eyeballing that list i dont see any of the other suggestions in that group. i tend to hone in on the guys who check the combine box which is why i think he fell off for me, but thinking about byard/hooker i could very much see him being a nyg day 2 pick in real life, and i dont think there is much difference between 47 and 70.

bowen had byard (pick 66 in 2016 before got there) and hooker (picked 116 in 2019 when he was OLB coach) who both had a lot of similar qualities, though they were better testers.

if safety werent in play relatively early i think they'd have signed a veteran starter by now (though i think the same is true of WR, DL, CB). here's the mcginn blurb with comments from a few different nfl scouts on him:

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Tyler Nubin, Minnesota (6-1, 199): Started for 3 ½ years, registering a school-record 13 picks. “He’s bigger, a more sturdy looking guy, and he will f--king hit you,” one scout said. “Like, he brings it. Good overall athlete. More of a build-speed type. He’ll be a good starting player.” Didn’t run or test at the combine. “They play him (in the box),” a second scout said. “But if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space. He is a special-teams demon. If you just watch him play in their defense you don’t see him go backwards very often. Nubin has great ball skills, too, if you look at his stats. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Four-time All-Big Ten academic selection. “I got him in the fourth or fifth,” said a third scout. “Linebacker mentality. Has some big hits. Best in the box. Has tight hips and needs to gather to change direction. Doesn’t have a closing burst. Questionable one-on-one coverage ability. Strong, aggressive player. Good square tackler. Struggles in man (coverage). I didn’t see it. I’d like to play against him.” Arms were 32, hands were 9.
Round 2  
Matt G : 4/4/2024 7:02 am : link
33. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) – Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34. New England (Sean) – Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
35. Arizona (DCPollaro) – Xavier Worthy, WR/RS, Texas
36. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) – Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
37. LA Chargers (Big Blue Blogger) – Jer'Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois
38. Tennessee (TommytheElephant) – Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
39. Carolina (FatMan in Charlotte) (from NYG) – Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia
40. Washington (Sir-Yes-Sir) (from Chi) – Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
41. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant) (from NYJ) – Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
42. Houston (Boatie Warrant) (from Min) – Braden Fiske, IDL, Florida State
43. Atlanta (BigBlue7) – Kamari Lassiter, CB/S, Georgia
44. Las Vegas (Amtoft) – Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
45. New Orleans (Mr. Nickels) (from Den) – Chris Braswell, EDGE/LB, Alabama
46. Indianapolis (Go Terps) – T'Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas
47. New York Giants (MadPlaid) (from Sea) – Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
48. Jacksonville (Andy in Halifax) - On the clock
49. Cincinnati (Matt G)
50. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly) (from NO)
51. Pittsburgh (Antonio Fierce)
52. LA Rams (Allstarjim)
53. Philadelphia (Chris in Philly)
54. Cleveland (MotownGIANTS)
55. Miami (Optimus-NY)
56. Dallas (Rick in Dallas)
57. Tampa Bay (Jay on the Island)
58. Green Bay (ChicagoGiant)
59. Houston (Boatie Warrant)
60. Buffalo (Uncledave)
61. Detroit (superspynyg)
62. Baltimore (Mike in NY)
63. San Francisco (Pete from Woodstock)
64. Kansas City (English Alaister)
Jags take Melton  
Andy in Halifax : 4/4/2024 7:56 am : link
Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player.

Sorry for the delay in picking.
Give me a sec  
Matt G : 4/4/2024 7:56 am : link
Andy nabbed my guy
RE: Jags take Melton  
Matt G : 4/4/2024 7:58 am : link
In comment 16455794 Andy in Halifax said:
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Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player.

Sorry for the delay in picking.

Not early at all given his measurables and physical style... Had a great Senior Bowl... A great Combine... Can play inside or out... Don't be surprised if he sneaks into RD1
Wow, it’s nice to get confirmation that your evaluation of a player  
MadPlaid : 4/4/2024 8:21 am : link
Is shared by others. I came real close to selecting Melton. I read the same things Andy and Matt did. I think he would be great on the Giants. Ultimately, I felt Nubin filled a bigger need.
RE: RE: Jags take Melton  
uncledave : 4/4/2024 8:26 am : link
In comment 16455796 Matt G said:
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Maybe you think its a bit early but his 'tape' is fantastic, he's feisty as hell and his testing was elite at the combine. I think he's a player.

Sorry for the delay in picking.


Not early at all given his measurables and physical style... Had a great Senior Bowl... A great Combine... Can play inside or out... Don't be surprised if he sneaks into RD1


He went in the first round of the Ourlads mock last night
Not surprised  
Matt G : 4/4/2024 8:31 am : link
He has a lot of what teams are looking for... Mitchell and Arnold are a notch above... But Melton could easily be #3 CB on several teams' boards
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