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Aaron Wellman and Penix

Blue Dog : 4/1/2024 3:35 pm
The Giants recently re-hired Aaron Wellman to the strength and conditioning department as "executive director of player performance". He was the former strength and conditioning coach (those were actually some of their least injured seasons 2016-2019) and then left for Indiana for their performance department. His time at Indiana also overlapped with Penix and had his second ACL injury.

Wellman would have direct insight into how his rehab would have gone and how he responded, why he may have gotten re-hurt, etc. I'm curious if anyone would feel this would have any impact on how they view his checkered injury history or if it wouldn't matter at this point? Just a thought on a direct connection.

Attached is a video from Wellman's time at Indiana talking about Penix (2021).
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Interesting question  
Mike from Ohio : 4/1/2024 3:36 pm : link
I am sure the Giants probably had that discussion with him.

Great observation.
Aaron Wellman?  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/1/2024 3:37 pm : link
Awesome news!

That guy knew what he was doing
Interesting...  
Amtoft : 4/1/2024 3:37 pm : link
nice work
Blue Dog  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/1/2024 3:39 pm : link
Nice work in connecting dots here.
Y28’s  
Jaenyg : 4/1/2024 3:44 pm : link
Dupe???
Very interesting  
Mbavaro : 4/1/2024 4:10 pm : link
Great info
Thank you for the insight  
widmerseyebrow : 4/1/2024 4:26 pm : link
I would not have put that together.
Blue Dog  
Y28 : 4/1/2024 5:21 pm : link
that's a great fact.

Many thanks.
Super interesting  
GiantTuff1 : 4/1/2024 5:57 pm : link
I would imagine Wellman's opinion of whether Penix will ascend or sink injury-wise in the pros will carry a lot of weight.
Interesting thanks.  
mittenedman : 4/1/2024 6:18 pm : link
I keep wondering if the Giants would move Andrew Thomas to RT if they drafted Penix.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Thomas went to RT and Neal went back to LT where he was more comfortable in college?
RE: Interesting thanks.  
Rudy5757 : 4/1/2024 6:50 pm : link
In comment 16453148 mittenedman said:
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I keep wondering if the Giants would move Andrew Thomas to RT if they drafted Penix.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Thomas went to RT and Neal went back to LT where he was more comfortable in college?


I guess anything is possible but it would be a fireable offense to take Thomas playing at a top level LT and move him to RT. I don’t think Neal is an OT and we are going to find out the hard way. OL stability is what the Giants need
RE: Interesting thanks.  
Ivan15 : 4/1/2024 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16453148 mittenedman said:
Quote:
I keep wondering if the Giants would move Andrew Thomas to RT if they drafted Penix.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Thomas went to RT and Neal went back to LT where he was more comfortable in college?
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I read somewhere (BBI?) that Neal played (much) better at RT than he did the following year at LT. I think Sy’56 mentioned in his writeup that he didn’t see Neal’s play improve when he switched from RT to LT, although that could have been because he was moved around every year.
Wellman  
Big_Pete : 4/1/2024 8:01 pm : link
It is worth noting that Wellman had a significant staff at Indiana. In 2023:

Aaron Wellman Senior Assistant Athletic Director for Football Performance
Justin Collett Athletic Performance Coach
Jordan Hicks Athletic Performance Coach
Matt Gebert Athletic Performance Coach
Drue Harris Athletic Performance Coach

I have no clue on where Penix should or shouldn't go.

The Giants with Aaron Wellman will have a detailed understanding of Penix's injury history, work ethic, how he recovers from injury and what the expected injury risks are going forward.

Should the Giants draft Penix (or not), I am pretty comfortable the Giants will have made a very informed decision.
RE: Interesting thanks.  
Big_Pete : 4/1/2024 8:08 pm : link
In comment 16453148 mittenedman said:
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I keep wondering if the Giants would move Andrew Thomas to RT if they drafted Penix.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Thomas went to RT and Neal went back to LT where he was more comfortable in college?


If Penix is seriously being considered.

I could see drafting Joe Alt at 6 to play RT (moving Neal inside or perhaps trading him)

Then trading up back into the first round with our second round pick (and whatever package) to grab Penix.

I don't think we will want to move Thomas, particularly as Jones /Lock are expected to be the starter early next season.
Big Pete  
Mike from Ohio : 4/2/2024 8:55 am : link
Agree that the Giants should at least be making an informed decision about Penix, whether they draft him or not. There is no reason for them not to have all the facts possibly to make that call.

However, if the Giants draft Alt at 6 they probably will to trade from 47 back up into the 10-15 range to have a shot an Penix which will cost a lot more than a pick here or there. If you want Penix you need to get him at 6 and then go get a solid RT in the second if you are concerned Neal can’t be that guy.

Unfortunately that then causes you to miss on a lot of real quality WRs. However, there is value to be had there later because this is such a deep class.
With two ACL injuries to the same knee  
SomeFan : 4/2/2024 10:36 am : link
I would be worried about the dreaded "chronic / arthritic" knee popping up in the near future due to loss of cartilage. It also strikes me as being one ACL injury away from calling it a career.
RE: RE: Interesting thanks.  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/2/2024 3:02 pm : link
In comment 16453185 Rudy5757 said:
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In comment 16453148 mittenedman said:


Quote:


I keep wondering if the Giants would move Andrew Thomas to RT if they drafted Penix.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Thomas went to RT and Neal went back to LT where he was more comfortable in college?



I guess anything is possible but it would be a fireable offense to take Thomas playing at a top level LT and move him to RT. I don’t think Neal is an OT and we are going to find out the hard way. OL stability is what the Giants need

Rather than thinking of your OTs as right and left, just reframe it as blindside and frontside.

And in that context, why would it be fireable to take your current blindside OT and keep him on your QB's blindside?
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