It's now April. The draft is this month. Is this dude going to make up his mind if he's retiring or not? I think he owes the organization an answer prior to the draft. & I'm not saying if he retires we're drafting Bowers @ 6 or anything, but as the saying goes...shit or get off the pot.
Anyone else sorta annoyed with him dragging this out?
Either way the Giants should make the decision for him if he doesn’t do it himself soon.
My guess is he told the Giants already and they are just waiting on the official retirement announcement until after the draft.
What would we get? A 7th round pick swap?
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There ya go. Makes the most sense. For him and team.
Unfortunately it doesn't make sense for any prospective partner to shell out picks for a 31 year old TE with a cranky hamstring and a 14 mill cap hit. Day 3 swap and an agreement to eat some of the salary is the best I'd dare to hope for.
Did he toy with retiring? I've been living under a little rock with the Giants lately lol
Do I take a TE in the 3rd or 4th round or not???
Or down south. Doesn’t wanna play here next year. Dome or sunshine.
This. I think he was being honest about his feelings about it. And if that's the case, he probably won't know until he starts ramping up during OTAs. So, it's going to be a while. And who gives a shit anyway? Remember Strahan doing this as well?
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But didnt wr do exactly that?
Maybe there is a team out there as dumb as us
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There ya go. Makes the most sense. For him and team.
Unfortunately it doesn't make sense for any prospective partner to shell out picks for a 31 year old TE with a cranky hamstring and a 14 mill cap hit. Day 3 swap and an agreement to eat some of the salary is the best I'd dare to hope for.
No thank you.
I bet he has to be very careful with how he treats pain, and that his nerve condition is often chronic. So playing more football is a serious decision for his health and sobriety.
He expressly said it wasn't a money issue, and that's he financially secure beyond his dreams. Whether that's true or not, that's not something a guy says who's looking for leverage to be traded and draw the same compensation.
Whether he's cut or retires has the same cap impact on the Giants. His health makes him an unreliable player the Giants have and will look to replace regardless.
If they want a TE in the draft, then get one. They will need one eventually. But I doubt TE is in their plan this draft anyway.
Just put it in your head he is gone and forget about him.
He's an expensive whatever.
Could be. That is part of why I posted what I did.
He's an expensive whatever.
I bet he has to be very careful with how he treats pain, and that his nerve condition is often chronic. So playing more football is a serious decision for his health and sobriety.
He expressly said it wasn't a money issue, and that's he financially secure beyond his dreams. Whether that's true or not, that's not something a guy says who's looking for leverage to be traded and draw the same compensation.
Whether he's cut or retires has the same cap impact on the Giants. His health makes him an unreliable player the Giants have and will look to replace regardless.
I agree, he's a human and not trying to get more money. The opioid issue is very likely the crux of it, good call.
They'll need to create 7-10M in additional space to operate through the year.
Whether Waller retires or is cut, if it's designated as a/or happens after June 1, the Giants will net cap savings of ~11.5M on 2024.