When Sy publishes his WR preview on 4/14, will all receive scores above 89? I feel like I read Sy hint that MHJ was going to be up there with one of his highest ever ranked WRs but that Nabers and Odunze weren’t far behind (I could be misremembering).
If so, go back 10 years. This is rare. WR is arguably the 2nd most premium position, at worst it’s the 5th. The opportunity to draft a blue chip WR is rare. Obviously, over the years, red chip talent (and lower) proved to be All-Pro caliber NFL players, but my point is, blue chip regarded talent at premium positions is rare enough, but 3 in one draft at the same position is unheard of.
If the Cardinals and Chargers feel this way about those 3, then I feel like we don’t have to seriously outbid the Vikings or Broncos or anyone.
If you don’t believe all 3 are considered blue chip, fire away! I don’t claim to be even an armchair scout 😊
This draft is loaded with talent.
Not my point. Whether it’s JJM or Maye isn’t my point.
My point is, the availability of blue chip talent at a premium position should drive the price down even if there is other demand for their draft slots.
As far as JJM…if JS/BD have put in the effort and are willing to part with capital to secure him, we should be excited as Giants fans. If you don’t like the prospect, I respect your opinion, but at least the professionals that run our team are making critical decisions regarding the most important position, and those decisions are a major deviation to what we’ve be living with for years.
to how you will see Sy rate the top 3 receivers.
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I can't get my head around why Brian Thomas Jr is left out of the discussion. He's an absolute monster.
And I’m speculating that they won’t have to give up as much as some suspect, to secure their target, because teams won’t want to miss out on premium cost controlled WR talent.
If the Cardinals want MHJ or Nabers then it won't be a bidding war. 2025 2nd and 3rd should get it done, or 2025 2nd and pick 107.
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For JJM. At 6, sure. But in a bidding war to trade up --please no.
If the Cardinals want MHJ or Nabers then it won't be a bidding war. 2025 2nd and 3rd should get it done, or 2025 2nd and pick 107.
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For JJM. At 6, sure. But in a bidding war to trade up --please no.
If the Cardinals want MHJ or Nabers then it won't be a bidding war. 2025 2nd and 3rd should get it done, or 2025 2nd and pick 107.
Possibly. But it depends on the negotiation. Cardinals aren’t going to come out and tell us who their targets are or what they might accept. They would seek to use Minn interest as leverage. So while our position at 6 is a very strong card to land us the deal, competition still likely to drive the price up. It comes down to the negotiation.
I agree the cardinals or chargers could use the vikings or another team in trade negotiations with the giants, but the value of the 6th draft pick gives us leverage as well. Joe schoen can leverage the ability for the Cardinals or chargers to still draft the player they want without dropping too far down and they still get value in draft compensation.
The chargers have one 2nd round pick this year. They can get a top wide receiver as well as an additional 2nd round pick. That's potentially 3 picks in the top 50.
The Cardinals have two 1st round picks. They could potentially trade and still get a top player in the draft plus an additional 2nd round pick to give them 4 draft picks in the top 50.
The vikings can offer their 2 1st round picks, but dropping to 11 from 4 or 5 is a big jump if you don't want to miss out on the top prospects.
I can't get my head around why Brian Thomas Jr is left out of the discussion. He's an absolute monster.
I can't get my head around why Brian Thomas Jr is left out of the discussion. He's an absolute monster.
I agree….if Harrison or the QB I they love is not there at 6…. Trade down and take Thomas….too many holes to fill on this roster….we need more picks.
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For JJM. At 6, sure. But in a bidding war to trade up --please no.
If the Cardinals want MHJ or Nabers then it won't be a bidding war. 2025 2nd and 3rd should get it done, or 2025 2nd and pick 107.
Possibly. But it depends on the negotiation. Cardinals aren’t going to come out and tell us who their targets are or what they might accept. They would seek to use Minn interest as leverage. So while our position at 6 is a very strong card to land us the deal, competition still likely to drive the price up. It comes down to the negotiation.
I agree the cardinals or chargers could use the vikings or another team in trade negotiations with the giants, but the value of the 6th draft pick gives us leverage as well. Joe schoen can leverage the ability for the Cardinals or chargers to still draft the player they want without dropping too far down and they still get value in draft compensation.
The chargers have one 2nd round pick this year. They can get a top wide receiver as well as an additional 2nd round pick. That's potentially 3 picks in the top 50.
The Cardinals have two 1st round picks. They could potentially trade and still get a top player in the draft plus an additional 2nd round pick to give them 4 draft picks in the top 50.
The vikings can offer their 2 1st round picks, but dropping to 11 from 4 or 5 is a big jump if you don't want to miss out on the top prospects.
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For JJM. At 6, sure. But in a bidding war to trade up --please no.
If the Cardinals want MHJ or Nabers then it won't be a bidding war. 2025 2nd and 3rd should get it done, or 2025 2nd and pick 107.
Possibly. But it depends on the negotiation. Cardinals aren’t going to come out and tell us who their targets are or what they might accept. They would seek to use Minn interest as leverage. So while our position at 6 is a very strong card to land us the deal, competition still likely to drive the price up. It comes down to the negotiation.
I agree the cardinals or chargers could use the vikings or another team in trade negotiations with the giants, but the value of the 6th draft pick gives us leverage as well. Joe schoen can leverage the ability for the Cardinals or chargers to still draft the player they want without dropping too far down and they still get value in draft compensation.
The chargers have one 2nd round pick this year. They can get a top wide receiver as well as an additional 2nd round pick. That's potentially 3 picks in the top 50.
The Cardinals have two 1st round picks. They could potentially trade and still get a top player in the draft plus an additional 2nd round pick to give them 4 draft picks in the top 50.
The vikings can offer their 2 1st round picks, but dropping to 11 from 4 or 5 is a big jump if you don't want to miss out on the top prospects.
Agreed. If Az is completely dead set on elite WR, Minnesota would have to anti up and offer Jefferson and 23 rather than 11 and 23. We can debate if they would actually do that, but if they're truly in love with a QB --that's the card they have to trump the lure of our #6 -a ready made superstar wideout to pair with Murray instead of a prospect.
Adding Jefferson is an interesting aspect in a trade package. The potential downfall to that is the contract he would require. There is a report that his new contract would be upwards of 30 million. I think his value in a trade would be diminished a little by the contract. He is a known commodity versus a projected drafted player though.
Picking a QB in the draft is a total crapshoot and you have no idea what you'll get. Picking a WR is a sure thing and you know exactly how he will do in the NFL.
That's about it.