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DanMetroMan : 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Syracuse the only affiliate to play today. Starter hasn't been named yet.
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DanMetroMan : 4/14/2024 2:26 pm : link
Acuna finished 3-4, 2 homers for Thompson, Nunez 1.2 perfect 2 k’s, Lavender 1 inning 2 hits 1 walk, Vientos 0-3 BB, Ritter 2-3 HR.
how excited about tong should we be getting?  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2024 3:00 pm : link
is this like "mike vasil may be something" or are we more in the christian scott "we have a real prospect here" category?

Baseball America
@BaseballAmerica
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1h
Low-A St. Lucie righthander Jonah Tong (Mets) has been striking out batters at a hard to fathom rate.

In his second start of the season ...
https://x.com/BaseballAmerica/status/1779556724040413497 - ( New Window )
RE: how excited about tong should we be getting?  
GF1080 : 4/14/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16468435 Eric on Li said:
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is this like "mike vasil may be something" or are we more in the christian scott "we have a real prospect here" category?

Baseball America
@BaseballAmerica
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1h
Low-A St. Lucie righthander Jonah Tong (Mets) has been striking out batters at a hard to fathom rate.

In his second start of the season ... https://x.com/BaseballAmerica/status/1779556724040413497 - ( New Window )


Maybe somewhere in between? Seems like he has better stuff than Vasil. He was so bad last year though that I didn't think much of him. I don't know if they got him in the new lab and were able to unlock some stuff.
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DanMetroMan : 4/14/2024 4:26 pm : link
Nol-tani does it again! HR. Dude has serious power wow. Clifford 1-3. Ziegler 2 innings 0 runs 2 walks 4 k’s (unclear why his outing was so short), Ventura 7 k’s over 4, SRF 1 perfect 3 k’s #Mets
RE: .  
GF1080 : 4/14/2024 7:11 pm : link
In comment 16468571 DanMetroMan said:
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Nol-tani does it again! HR. Dude has serious power wow. Clifford 1-3. Ziegler 2 innings 0 runs 2 walks 4 k’s (unclear why his outing was so short), Ventura 7 k’s over 4, SRF 1 perfect 3 k’s #Mets


Just saw video of McLean's HR. Man he crushed it.
Alex Ramirez  
KDavies : 4/15/2024 9:01 am : link
.367 BA, .994 OPS in 8 games at AA. 5 steals and a HR. Still only a young 21. Nice to see from him
AAA  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 10:26 am : link
game 1
Vasil 3.1 innings 8 hits 5 runs 2 walks 5 k's (Barring something shocking, safe to say we see Scott before Vasil. Vasil now has an era near 6 with Syracuse (19 starts). I still think he's a big league SP (or bulk innings RP) but he has to pitch better.

Nunez 1.2 perfect 2 k's
Lavender 1 inning 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 0 k (Really like Lavender but he's been pretty mediocre so far this season considering his great Spring, we'll see him in 2024 at some point)

Acuna 3-4, SB (he's struggled early so he needed this)
Ritter 2-3, HR
Vientos 0-3, BB
Thompson 2-3, 2 HR's (horrible start to his season so he REALLY needed this)

Game 2
Acuna 0-4
Vientos 1-2, 2 BB
Ritter 1-3, HR
Fujinami 0.0 innings 1 hit 3 walks 3 runs
Orze 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 1 k
Walker 1 perfect 2 k's


AA
Schwartz 4-4, HR, 2b (hot start)
Ramirez 3-5 (.994 OPS to open the season. He DOES have a .500, yes .500 BABIP with 29.4% K rate, so his numbers while obviously excellent need to be taken with a grain of salt right now)
Thomas 0-5
Parada 1-4, 2 k's (Great to see Parada off to a hot start with the bat (.951 OPS), defnse remains a major concern (1/9 throwing on the season, 2 PB's over 5 games)

Jarvis (season debut) 2.2 innings 2 hits 1 run 2 walks 4 k's

BK
Clifford 1-4, K (rough start to his season)
McLean 1-4, HR, 3 k's (monster shot)
Lorusso 3-4, 2 HR's (first 2 homers of his career)
Ziegler 2 innings 0 hits 2 walks 4 k's
Ventura 4 innings 2 hits 0 er 1 walk 7 k's (Jordany Ventura in 2024 7.1 innings 5 hits 0 er 1 walk 12 k's. Unclear if he's now permanently a RP or they are simply piggybacking him early on )
SRF 1 perfect 3 k's


St. Lucie
Suero 0-4, K
Baez 0-4
Houck 0-3, K (struggling)
Hernandez 0-3, K
Morabito 0-2, BB, K
Banks 1 inning 1 hit 2 k's
Lawson 1 perfect 2 k's
Simon (grew up a Mets fan) 1 inning 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 2 k's
i wish we had more AAA data re the swing decision stuff  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2024 10:34 am : link
vientos is at a 15% walk rate and 22% k-rate right now, both bests for him at any level of minors at samples as big as so far or greater. gb% still high but i have to think his whiff/chase rates are a lot better to have improved the walk/k-rates and that's one of the more important things they are hoping to see from him, maybe even more than whatever happens on batted balls.

he had 4 hard hit balls yesterday and one traveled 375 feet so was prob a near homer somewhere so i think the ev is still there even if his slg is down a bit. that will pop up with 1 good game. .265/.379/.490 will obviously play and id imagine a hot streak will push it higher at some point.
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 10:36 am : link
Slow start for Colin Houck (.156/.263/.219). @stluciemets as a team has really struggled offensively early (.196/.332/.275)
Seidler  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 10:48 am : link
on Ramirez

Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
not that any of this means much of anything in any direction in an 8 game sample, but it's a week and a half of games in which his groundball and swinging strike rates have both skyrocketed, essentially he has hit three more groundball singles than expected"

I'm not hating on the kid but a .500 BABIP and 29.4% k rate need to be included in any conversation regarding his hot start.
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 10:52 am : link
@BaseballAmerica names Dom Hamel as a "Statcast Standout" for the past week noting his "eye-popping" 20+ inch IVB which they say is "elite". They note his FB velocity is average (92-94) but the ride helps him get whiffs
any word on Ziegler  
KDavies : 4/15/2024 10:56 am : link
why did he only go 2 innings?

Some nice pitching so far: Ziegler 6 innings, no hits, 13 Ks

Tong: 8.1 innings, 3 hits, 21 Ks
RE: any word on Ziegler  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 10:57 am : link
In comment 16469228 KDavies said:
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why did he only go 2 innings?

Some nice pitching so far: Ziegler 6 innings, no hits, 13 Ks

Tong: 8.1 innings, 3 hits, 21 Ks


The announce team said it appeared he was having issues with his command and they didn't want to push it this early in the season. It certainly was kind of odd. 2 innings 43 pitches is high but not exceedingly so. No injury announced but it's of course possible he was under the weather or something (minor) physically. When it comes to stuff like that we really get much. I mean Justin Jarvis just came off the IL, no word even what happened.
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 11:04 am : link
28 prep bats taken 1st round since 2020, @jettwilliams04 is one of only 4 to begin their second full season in AA, a 5th (Jackson Holliday) began in AAA
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 11:35 am : link
Lance Brozdowski
@LanceBroz
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Subtle arm-angle change for José Buttó. Release height is down 2.5" from 2023, arm angle from 61° to 54° (see below). #Mets

Four-seam maintained shape, 15.5" vertical break, more elevation. Stuff+ models see it as average, but swinging strike rate jumped from 9.5% to 16%.
More from Lance  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 11:50 am : link
Mets Jose Butto’s arm angle is down from 61° last season to 54° this season. The result is a release height that’s 2.5” lower than last year. Despite the release drop, his fastball shape is nearly identical—15.5” vertical break. That’s marginally above-average ride for his current 5.4’ release. I do think something with this arm-angle change is driving the 16% swinging-strike rate on his four-seam, up from just 9.5% last year. Driveline Stuff+ hasn’t budged off an average grade (101). 🍎

His slider has turned into more of a bullet slider, down 5” in vertical break (more drop) and 2 mph in velocity from last year. Driveline Stuff+ at 100 and it’s generating a 47% swing-miss rate (33% is average). He’s also ditched his curveball from last year for a sweeper—82 mph with -7” vertical break and 13” sweep. That’s about 7” less vertical break than the average sweeper (dropping a lot more than average). You could argue it’s still a curveball based on shape, but notably different from his 2023 curve, 10” more sweep and 3 mph harder. Driveline Stuff+ of 91.
maybe its just me but i cant wait until we just trust our FO  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2024 12:11 pm : link
on all the minutiae of pitching that's out there.

im a numbers guy but beyond the simple to understand stuff (like stuff+) i find the real technical stuff overwhelming to understand practically.
City Connect  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 12:13 pm : link
to be revealed officially on Friday, even though they have already been leaked.
If  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 12:14 pm : link
we were putting arrows next to P, I'd have one squarely up for Joander Suarez, down for Mike Vasil. Neither are future aces either way but both are probably big league arms.
Meaningless  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 12:17 pm : link
this early in the season but very roughly I'd have Christian Scott in a tier of his own with nobody else on his level Sproat probably #2 (even with the RP risk).
RE: Meaningless  
GF1080 : 4/15/2024 12:38 pm : link
In comment 16469402 DanMetroMan said:
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this early in the season but very roughly I'd have Christian Scott in a tier of his own with nobody else on his level Sproat probably #2 (even with the RP risk).


Speaking of...

From Callis:

Who is the most underrated pitching prospect in baseball, Jim? -- @LanceBroz

Great question from my "Road To Wrigley" teammate Lance Brozdowski, who does a lot of data-driven analysis of pitchers when he's not working for the Marquee Sports Network. I considered Pirates right-hander Thomas Harrington (currently sidelined with a slight rotator cuff strain) and Diamondbacks left-hander Yu-Min Lin, but my pick is Mets righty Christian Scott.

Florida usually has one of the deepest pitching staffs in college baseball, so Scott made just five starts and was mostly a reliever in his three seasons with the Gators. A fifth-round pick in 2021, he broke out last year with a 2.57 ERA, .199 opponents' average against and 107/12 K/BB ratio in 87 2/3 innings while rising from Single-A to Double-A. He struck out 19 and walked just one over nine innings in his first two Triple-A starts this season.


Scott pounds the zone with quality stuff: a mid-90s four-seamer that elicits an exceptional amount of swings-and-misses, as well as chases for a fastball; an upper-80s splitter/changeup that neutralizes left-handers; and a tight mid-80s slider that shows flashes of becoming a solid third option. He flies under the radar more than he should because he's 24 and doesn't have a long track record as a starter, but he looks on the cusp of pitching in the front half of a big league rotation.
RE: RE: Meaningless  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16469447 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16469402 DanMetroMan said:


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this early in the season but very roughly I'd have Christian Scott in a tier of his own with nobody else on his level Sproat probably #2 (even with the RP risk).



Speaking of...

From Callis:

Who is the most underrated pitching prospect in baseball, Jim? -- @LanceBroz

Great question from my "Road To Wrigley" teammate Lance Brozdowski, who does a lot of data-driven analysis of pitchers when he's not working for the Marquee Sports Network. I considered Pirates right-hander Thomas Harrington (currently sidelined with a slight rotator cuff strain) and Diamondbacks left-hander Yu-Min Lin, but my pick is Mets righty Christian Scott.

Florida usually has one of the deepest pitching staffs in college baseball, so Scott made just five starts and was mostly a reliever in his three seasons with the Gators. A fifth-round pick in 2021, he broke out last year with a 2.57 ERA, .199 opponents' average against and 107/12 K/BB ratio in 87 2/3 innings while rising from Single-A to Double-A. He struck out 19 and walked just one over nine innings in his first two Triple-A starts this season.


Scott pounds the zone with quality stuff: a mid-90s four-seamer that elicits an exceptional amount of swings-and-misses, as well as chases for a fastball; an upper-80s splitter/changeup that neutralizes left-handers; and a tight mid-80s slider that shows flashes of becoming a solid third option. He flies under the radar more than he should because he's 24 and doesn't have a long track record as a starter, but he looks on the cusp of pitching in the front half of a big league rotation.


Funny.


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Jim Callis
@jimcallisMLB
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Apr 11
Still seeking questions for the @MLBPipeline
Inbox. Send them here or to pipeline@mlb.com. Thanks!
Lance Brozdowski
@LanceBroz
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Apr 11
Who is the most underrated pitching prospect in baseball, Jim?
Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
"Christian Scott"- Jim (or it should be!) lol


@lancebroz

I had him #21 in my top 40 pitching prospects, which I think would lineup to about a t100 guy https://lancebroz.substack.com/p/top-40-pitch



Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
Pipeline had at *least* 28 SP's ahead of him based on their top 100. To have nearly 30 (or more) SP prospects ahead of him is pretty wild to me. Considering his upper minors success, frame, stuff... underrated (and I'm not saying that because I'm a Mets fan).
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 2:00 pm : link
Binghamton Rumble Ponies
@RumblePoniesBB
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The Binghamton Rumble Ponies are pleased to announce that @SNYtv
, the flagship television home of the @Mets
, will broadcast at least eight Rumble Ponies games this season!
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 2:32 pm : link
Brooklyn Cyclones
@BKCyclones
The Cyclones are excited to be part of the @SNYtv
Minor League Broadcast schedule for the 2024 season.

You'll also be able to see games featuring the @SyracuseMets
and @RumblePoniesBB
all season long.
Melissa Lockard  
DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 2:59 pm : link
New York Mets: Kevin Parada (No. 7) is hitting well for Double-A Binghamton, with a .294/.480/.471 line in six games. He hit his first homer of the season Saturday. Teammate Jett Williams (No. 1) is batting .185 through seven games with two stolen bases. Luisangel Acuña (No. 2) is batting .207/.233/.293 with a homer in 14 games for Triple-A Syracuse. Drew Gilbert (No. 4) landed on the injured list April 7 with a hamstring strain. He was 6-for-25 with a homer for Syracuse before the injury.
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DanMetroMan : 4/15/2024 3:36 pm : link
metZZ 1986🛜
@bkfan09
Rumors 🔥🔥🔥Yankees top 2028 signing Angel Ozuna is actually 2 yrs older, and should be signing in the 2026 class instead of 2028 . Ozuna’s bonus amount was rumored to be in the $6M range
AAA  
DanMetroMan : 8:11 am : link
@SyracuseMets TBD (should be Scott, Syracuse hasn’t been announcing their SP officially until around game
Time this year) @RumblePoniesBB Tidwell
@BKCyclones Sproat
@stluciemets TBD
Scott  
DanMetroMan : 9:24 am : link
And Tong make BA’s hot sheet
Link - ( New Window )
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Named Later : 9:43 am : link
Thanks for these.....best MiLB team-focused updates on the web.

Can we put a line in at the first post of a new day ??
Might make it easier to pick up current information
Like a
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RE: Scott  
Mike in NY : 9:50 am : link
In comment 16470456 DanMetroMan said:
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And Tong make BA’s hot sheet Link - ( New Window )


The last time I remember seeing stat lines like Tong's in the Mets minor leagues were when Jack Leathersich was pitching. Although Tong is doing it over longer outings.
RE: RE: Scott  
pjcas18 : 9:53 am : link
In comment 16470497 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16470456 DanMetroMan said:


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And Tong make BA’s hot sheet Link - ( New Window )



The last time I remember seeing stat lines like Tong's in the Mets minor leagues were when Jack Leathersich was pitching. Although Tong is doing it over longer outings.


Was Leathersich before or after Akeel Morris? That guy had video game numbers. I remember one SSS in A or A+ ball he averaged almost 15 SO/9.
Scott  
DanMetroMan : 10:14 am : link
Tidwell, Sproat and it should be Morris but that’s tbd
Just  
DanMetroMan : 10:20 am : link
talking to a prospect writer and he projects both Tong and Ziegler as big league relievers. Also still believes Hamel "more likely than not" ends up in the BP.
RE: RE: RE: Scott  
Mike in NY : 10:24 am : link
In comment 16470501 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16470497 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 16470456 DanMetroMan said:


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And Tong make BA’s hot sheet Link - ( New Window )



The last time I remember seeing stat lines like Tong's in the Mets minor leagues were when Jack Leathersich was pitching. Although Tong is doing it over longer outings.



Was Leathersich before or after Akeel Morris? That guy had video game numbers. I remember one SSS in A or A+ ball he averaged almost 15 SO/9.


Morris was drafted the year prior although his numbers weren't quite at Leathersich's level. Morris was also the youngest guy on the list for a number of years it seemed because we were constantly cheaping out with college relievers.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 10:28 am : link
comparing the two, but the SP with the gaudiest K #'s despite not "super elite" stuff that comes to mind is Yusmeiro Petit. Stuck out *200* over 139 innings as a 19 year old despite an average or worse FB.
RE: Not  
pjcas18 : 10:32 am : link
In comment 16470546 DanMetroMan said:
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comparing the two, but the SP with the gaudiest K #'s despite not "super elite" stuff that comes to mind is Yusmeiro Petit. Stuck out *200* over 139 innings as a 19 year old despite an average or worse FB.


Petit actually had a decent major league career too. best out of the three we mentioned at least.

RE: RE: Not  
DanMetroMan : 10:35 am : link
In comment 16470552 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16470546 DanMetroMan said:


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comparing the two, but the SP with the gaudiest K #'s despite not "super elite" stuff that comes to mind is Yusmeiro Petit. Stuck out *200* over 139 innings as a 19 year old despite an average or worse FB.



Petit actually had a decent major league career too. best out of the three we mentioned at least.


14 seasons! Mostly as a RP but that's impressive. Even Deolis Guerra 136 big league games pitched. The Mets took a step back in terms of latin american scouting but for a while they really did a strong job. They have some DSL kids to monitor, but too early to get too excited.
hot off presses specially requested from TJ  
Eric on Li : 11:02 am : link
Thomas Nestico
@TJStats
Seems like he is being more patient. Helping limit chases and making more contact when he swings.

Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 11:08 am : link
should have been up until JDM is ready. That was a (so far) rare misstep by Stearns. Not looking to rile up his dad (Eric) but I just get the feeling they don't see him as part of their future core (rightly or wrongly).
RE: Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 11:10 am : link
In comment 16470597 DanMetroMan said:
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should have been up until JDM is ready. That was a (so far) rare misstep by Stearns. Not looking to rile up his dad (Eric) but I just get the feeling they don't see him as part of their future core (rightly or wrongly).


JDM *was ready.
Jack  
DanMetroMan : 11:24 am : link
Leiter MLB debut on Thursday
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DanMetroMan : 11:58 am : link
Eno Sarris
@enosarris
Top ten minor league bulk pitchers (>45 p/G, min 100 pitches) by Stuff+

Paul Skenes 114
Andrew Bash
David Festa
Jack Leiter (debut coming)
Cooper Criswell
Nick Lodolo
Christian Scott
Levi Stoudt
Dominic Hamel
Carson Spiers 99

(google doc updated)
Ziegler  
DanMetroMan : 12:11 pm : link
just can't stay healthy.

Ugh. Calvin Ziegler placed on the 7-day IR by @BKCyclones
. I had a feeling the 2 inning stint wasn't simply a case of pitches (43)
We had two relievers with crazy k numbers  
bhill410 : 12:20 pm : link
That I believe we traded to Miami but for the life of me I cannot who they were traded for (thought it was for a starting pitcher in one of Omar’s last years). The one reliever I believe at one point had a k/9 over 20 which was the craziest I have ever seen. Ironically I don’t believe he ever became much of anything but the other one did.
No  
DanMetroMan : 12:23 pm : link
clue what Ziegler's injury is but it's getting to the point it's getting harder and harder seeing him remain a SPer. He's 21.5 with 53.2 career innings over 3 seasons.
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DanMetroMan : 12:35 pm : link
Missed this! @BaseballAmerica with some love for Jesus Baez. "plus exit velocities" and "pristine swinging strike rates" "big arrow up" for Mr. Baez. Many of us (myself included) had him on our 2024 breakout lists. So far so good.
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DanMetroMan : 12:49 pm : link
OF Sebastian Castro has joined @stluciemets along with LHP Franklin Gomez (very interesting arm) #Mets

Max Kranick's rehab assignment has been moved to @RumblePoniesBB
and David Griffin also joining @RumblePoniesBB
from @SyracuseMets
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DanMetroMan : 12:52 pm : link
Castro was born in NY, NY and signed with @mets 1/2021. Struggled 2021+2022 and missed 2023 (presumably injured but never actually placed on the IL) #Mets
RE: We had two relievers with crazy k numbers  
KDavies : 1:23 pm : link
In comment 16470693 bhill410 said:
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That I believe we traded to Miami but for the life of me I cannot who they were traded for (thought it was for a starting pitcher in one of Omar’s last years). The one reliever I believe at one point had a k/9 over 20 which was the craziest I have ever seen. Ironically I don’t believe he ever became much of anything but the other one did.


Jason Vargas for Henry Owens and Matt Lindstrom
RE: Jack  
KDavies : 1:26 pm : link
In comment 16470614 DanMetroMan said:
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Leiter MLB debut on Thursday


Andy Pages called up today as well
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