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NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April)

DanMetroMan : 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Syracuse the only affiliate to play today. Starter hasn't been named yet.
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Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 6:53 pm : link
HR, Acuna 3B

Scott 1 perfect 2 k’s 94-96
RE: Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 7:04 pm : link
In comment 16464025 DanMetroMan said:
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HR, Acuna 3B

Scott 1 perfect 2 k’s 94-96


2 innings 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 5 k’s
RE: RE: Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 7:05 pm : link
In comment 16464042 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16464025 DanMetroMan said:


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HR, Acuna 3B

Scott 1 perfect 2 k’s 94-96



2 innings 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 5 k’s


1 walk not 0
Scott  
GF1080 : 4/10/2024 7:53 pm : link
10 Ks through 5 so far. 2 hits 1 ER.
Scott should be in MLB for his next start  
Metnut : 4/10/2024 7:55 pm : link
Especially considering some of the scrubs in the current rotation.
In August  
DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 7:57 pm : link
I said thisl

“ Hearing @mets are high on RHP Kade Morris (their third round pick this year)”

Kade Morris in his 2024 debut: 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K (65 pitches, 47 strikes).
the vientos thing is so asinine  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2024 8:04 pm : link
if they dont want him at the mlb level then trade him. could have tucked him into the taylor/houser deal and it would have looked fair instead of lopsided.

JDM is 36 with known back issues. how about we wait until he shows he can do what he did last year before roster building around him? how is his possible eventual return to health now an immovable object after leaking for 5 months you werent interested in paying unless the price got too good to pass up?

2-3 weeks ago most had 0 expectations of baty off another mediocre spring. the mets benched him in game 2 for zack short. he has probably been the best met (obviously SSS but he's tied with Nimmo for .4 fwar and we know he has in fact helped them win close games and shown visible improvement in the field).

the only thing certain is you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
1 more thing - given his likely innings limit a Scott promotion  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2024 8:08 pm : link
shouldnt go much longer if he keeps throwing like this for 1 or 2 more starts. he only has a certain amount of innings, if he's dominating in the minors may as well call him up for anyone who isn't dominating.

not sure if there's some other way to creatively manage his innings (call him up for BP midseason maybe?) but hard to see any scenario where he stays healthy and is still pitching by the end of the year.
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DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 8:10 pm : link
Christian Scott since turning pro...36 walks vs. 204 k's. Last 20 starts 91.2 innings 13 walks 126 k's
If Scott is on an innings limit then giving him more MLB  
Metnut : 4/10/2024 8:10 pm : link
innings increased his chances at rookie of the year finish and getting a bonus pick. It’s such silly to keep him in AAA at this point.
RE: If Scott is on an innings limit then giving him more MLB  
Eric on Li : 4/10/2024 8:15 pm : link
In comment 16464155 Metnut said:
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innings increased his chances at rookie of the year finish and getting a bonus pick. It’s such silly to keep him in AAA at this point.


i would guess he has 0 chance. i would guess his innings limit is somewhere south of 130, which would be almost a 150% increase from last year.

(less the innings he's already pitched)

there are 24 weeks left so we are looking at him maybe having 5 innings per week rest of season before playoffs.

if they go 6 man and skip him a few times maybe you can just squeak him to the end of the season.
RE: In August  
GF1080 : 4/10/2024 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16464144 DanMetroMan said:
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I said thisl

“ Hearing @mets are high on RHP Kade Morris (their third round pick this year)”

Kade Morris in his 2024 debut: 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K (65 pitches, 47 strikes).


Seems like his profile was similar to Scott's including pitching some relief in college. Wouldn't surprise if he follows same path or close to it.
Yikes  
DanMetroMan : 4/10/2024 8:42 pm : link
Aaron Nola, Average Fastball Velocity:
92.9 MPH <--- NLCS Game 6, 2023
92.1 MPH <--- 1st start of 2024
91.1 MPH <--- 2nd start of 2024
89.5 MPH <--- 3rd start of 2024
man I'm like mush  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2024 8:05 am : link
from a Bronx Tale for pitchers in fantasy baseball.

I had Eury, Strider, I have Nola and was considering keeping Bradish.

RE: man I'm like mush  
KDavies : 4/11/2024 8:57 am : link
In comment 16464412 pjcas18 said:
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from a Bronx Tale for pitchers in fantasy baseball.

I had Eury, Strider, I have Nola and was considering keeping Bradish.


I go hitter heavy in fantasy. Pitching is too volatile. In a 13 keeper league for instance, I kept 10 hitters. Only kept Skubal, Gilbert, and Kirby. Then just load up on SP in the draft
Christian Scott highlights  
KDavies : 4/11/2024 9:03 am : link
hope the link works, as it did for me.

Great watch. Kid can pitch. 19 K in 9 innings. Only 8 baserunners. Only minor concern to watch is HR. 3 already. Hopefully an anomaly. Haven't been this excited about a homegrown pitcher since Harvey (even though deGrom and Wheeler did turn out quite better). When we were all talking about how the pitchers look like back end guys, but hopefully 1-2 could turn into a top of the rotation starter, he's looking like one who can
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: man I'm like mush  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16464466 KDavies said:
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In comment 16464412 pjcas18 said:


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from a Bronx Tale for pitchers in fantasy baseball.

I had Eury, Strider, I have Nola and was considering keeping Bradish.




I go hitter heavy in fantasy. Pitching is too volatile. In a 13 keeper league for instance, I kept 10 hitters. Only kept Skubal, Gilbert, and Kirby. Then just load up on SP in the draft


I suggested we do a hitters only league. and just to highlight my mush ability though, I had Trout the past two seasons. I don't think he made it this long either one. Now he looks like Trout of old and of course I avoided him.

I do have Elly though as a 19th round keeper, who has not struck out in his last three games and is (facetious of course) on a blistering pace:

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...Elly De La Cruz's current 650 PA pace...

176 R, 41 HR, 95 RBI, 95 SB...
RE: RE: In August  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2024 9:25 am : link
In comment 16464164 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16464144 DanMetroMan said:


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I said thisl

“ Hearing @mets are high on RHP Kade Morris (their third round pick this year)”

Kade Morris in his 2024 debut: 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K (65 pitches, 47 strikes).



Seems like his profile was similar to Scott's including pitching some relief in college. Wouldn't surprise if he follows same path or close to it.


Morris was more of a starter than Scott was in college. The issue with Morris is that playing for Nevada is very difficult to evaluate pitchers due to thin air and lots of bandbox stadiums in that conference. In Cape Cod League he was doing well limiting hard contact, but the K/9 was less than ideal.
Morris  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:13 am : link
pure still is a tier below Scott/McLean. As I said, the Mets were very high on him pre/post draft in part because they think he has room to put on more muscle/weight to his frame but as/is he's more of a back end type prospect. Absolutely nothing wrong with that outcome.
RE: Morris  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16464601 DanMetroMan said:
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pure still is a tier below Scott/McLean. As I said, the Mets were very high on him pre/post draft in part because they think he has room to put on more muscle/weight to his frame but as/is he's more of a back end type prospect. Absolutely nothing wrong with that outcome.


Scott's stuff improved as he's been going through the system. Very possible we see the same with Morris.
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:17 am : link
@SyracuseMets Hamel, @RumblePoniesBB Suarez @BKCyclones Hall @stluciemets Mercedes
RE: RE: Morris  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:23 am : link
In comment 16464622 GF1080 said:
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In comment 16464601 DanMetroMan said:


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pure still is a tier below Scott/McLean. As I said, the Mets were very high on him pre/post draft in part because they think he has room to put on more muscle/weight to his frame but as/is he's more of a back end type prospect. Absolutely nothing wrong with that outcome.



Scott's stuff improved as he's been going through the system. Very possible we see the same with Morris.


Sure but that can be said about any pitcher who is drafted. Scott isn't the usual outcome. Noah Hall, Wyatt Hudepohl, Jack Wenninger. I mean Mike Vasil, Dom Hamel, Tyler Stuart etc are all decent prospects but none have developed into a Christian Scott type of prospect.
Keith  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:27 am : link
Law had Morris as just missing the Mets top 20 with this note

"• Kade Morris was the Mets’ 2023 third-round pick out of Nevada-Reno, a righty with a low three-quarters arm slot and a 55 slider who pitched competitively in a high-altitude environment in college, probably a reliever but with a real shot to make it as a back-end starter."

He also oddly didn't have Ziegler, Stuart or McLean making it.
Syracuse  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 10:31 am : link
On SNY tonight.
i know i was like the biggest proponent of signing snell/monty  
Eric on Li : 4/11/2024 10:34 am : link
but i have no idea how teams justify spending multi-year $ on pitchers any more.

if i were them im just signing like 5 bassitts/manaea/colon/quintana types. get me to the 5th/6th inning with 3 or 4 runs allowed and let an elite BP take over.

eric cressey posted a stat in the last few days re pitching injuries that at the youth level the chances of injury over 100 innings pitched go up by like 3-4x (also that major arm recontrsuctkions are way up at the youth level). id imagine that's lessened but similar in the big leagues, just judging by how many fewer major arm injuries seem to occur for elite relievers who end up more in the 50-70 inning range.

scott is in a way a bit of a developmental question - if you knew he is plus pitcher in either role, would you 2x his injury risk in a role over 100 innings? or keep him below 100 innings but with half as much injury risk?
RE: Keith  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 10:35 am : link
In comment 16464665 DanMetroMan said:
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Law had Morris as just missing the Mets top 20 with this note

"• Kade Morris was the Mets’ 2023 third-round pick out of Nevada-Reno, a righty with a low three-quarters arm slot and a 55 slider who pitched competitively in a high-altitude environment in college, probably a reliever but with a real shot to make it as a back-end starter."

He also oddly didn't have Ziegler, Stuart or McLean making it.


It might have been BA but I read something that Mets thought they could specifically improve his 4 seam and slider which is what they did with Scott I believe. Obviously it wasn't a direct comp but just reminded me of some similar things we've known that Scott developed. Doesn't mean it will go down the same way.
AAA  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:37 am : link
Acuna 1-4, 3b, 2 k's (Acuna is going to be a fascinating case study for @mets
ability to develop hitters. The raw pop is there but he often over swings to get there. Should be interesting to see how he develops)

Vientos 1-3, HR, K, error (not doing himself any favors in the field but not even sure that matters that much, it's clear he's a 1b/DH if he "makes it")

Scott 5 innings 2 hits 1 run 1 walk 10 k's (He's not very far from being MLB ready)

Lavender 1 perfect 2 k's (same)


AA
Jett 2-4, 2b, 3b, K
Thomas 3-4, 2b, SB (one of the most underrated prospects in the system)
Ramirez 0-3, 3 k's
Parada 0-3, K, 0-3 throwing
Rudick 0-3, BB, 3 k's
Schwartz 0-2, 2 BB, K
Stuart 4.2 innings 9 hits 3 runs 0 walks 2 k's
Juarez 1.1 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 0 k's
Ramos 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's
Parsons 2 perfect 3 k's

BK
Lugo 1-4, BB, 3 k's
Clifford 0-2, 3 BB
Consuegra 0-5, 3 k's
Tillen 2-4
McLean 3.1 innings 3 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's
Simon 2.1 innings 4 hits 1 run 0 walks 2 k's

St. Lucie
Mosquera 2-4, BB
Houck 0-5, 2 k's
Suero 2-4, 2b, 3b, K
Baez 1-3, 2B,BB, K
Morabito 1-3, BB
Morris 5 innings 4 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's
Ramirez 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 3 k's
Banks 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 1 k
Pipeline  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 10:43 am : link
Has Thomas at #30 so they were higher on him than most.

Back to Morris BA has him at 20 so same thing.

All the "older" players at AAA and AA have started off a bit slow I believe. The Rotted, Rudicks, Mcilwains, etc.
In  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 10:55 am : link
Rudick's defense, he's coming off half of a missed season and shoulder surgery. He proved (when healthy) he can mash AA pitching so I'm not concerned with him.
AAA  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 10:57 am : link
Ritter not rotted.
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DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 11:01 am : link
Ex-@mets RP Zach Muckenhirn has signed with @RockersBaseball of @AtlanticLg #Mets
RE: Syracuse  
Optimus-NY : 4/11/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16464676 GF1080 said:
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On SNY tonight.


Looking forward to that
Joander  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 2:04 pm : link
Suarez was promoted to AA on 8/29

Over 4 starts in AA he's thrown 23 innings allowing *5* (yes, 5) hits, 0 runs while walking 6 and striking out 25. Fully realize this is probably jinxing his start tonight but even dating back to 7/1/2023 (13 starts)

61.2 innings pitched 43 hits 17 er 24 walks 82 k's 2.48 era
Bing rained  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 3:44 pm : link
out
Fun  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 5:32 pm : link
pitching in BK but not gonna lie... position players feel very Jeff Wilpon loves his Cyclones era

.  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 7:15 pm : link
Acuna 0-1, Vientos 0-1 K, Ritter 1-1, Hamel 3 innings 1 hit 1 run 0 walks 5 k’s, 41 pitches 27 strikes #Mets
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 7:18 pm : link
Kranick (rehab) 1 inning 5 hits 4 runs 1 walk 2 k’s, Baez (2B), Morabito (2B), Vargas all 1-1, Suero with a SB #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 4/11/2024 7:27 pm : link
Hamel 4 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 7 k’s, Acuna 0-2, Vientos 1-2 K #Mets
RE: .  
KDavies : 4/11/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16465693 DanMetroMan said:
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Hamel 4 innings 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 7 k’s, Acuna 0-2, Vientos 1-2 K #Mets


Fantastic news on Hamel after that last start

Hamel  
GF1080 : 4/11/2024 8:11 pm : link
Ended up with 10 Ks.
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 10:50 am : link
We have a trade! @mets have traded for C Joe Hudson. Hudson has been assigned to @RumblePoniesBB. Hudson was a 6th round pick by @reds in 2012. He will serve as organizational depth #Mets
RE: .  
KDavies : 4/12/2024 11:34 am : link
In comment 16466185 DanMetroMan said:
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We have a trade! @mets have traded for C Joe Hudson. Hudson has been assigned to @RumblePoniesBB. Hudson was a 6th round pick by @reds in 2012. He will serve as organizational depth #Mets


1.119 OPS and 2 HR in 22 spring training ABs. Almost 33. I would assume cash considerations
Alvarez/Mauricio's agency  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 12:56 pm : link
Britt Ghiroli
@Britt_Ghiroli
BREAKING: Rimas Sports, the agency launched last year by Bad Bunny, is facing significant discipline from the MLB Players Association, sources told The Athletic. One agent has had his license revoked, others pending will not be approved. More:
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DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 12:58 pm : link
@SyracuseMets
TBD (should be Lucchesi) @RumblePoniesBB
Joander Suarez @BKCyclones
Felipe De La Cruz @stluciemets
Saul Garcia #Mets
McLean  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 2:56 pm : link
Season debut at DH for BK
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DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 8:36 pm : link
1/2 Acuna 2-4, SB, 2 k's, Vientos 0-3, Lucchesi 6 innings 5 hits 2 runs 2 walks 4 k's, Fujinami 1.1 perfect, Hall 0.2 innings 4 hits 6 runs 2 walks 2 k's, Clifford 0-1, K, Consuegra 0-2, K, Lugo 0-2, McLean 0-2, K

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20s
2/2 Garcia (breakout candidate) 2 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's, Hudepohl 1 inning 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 1 k, Baez 2-3, 2b, SB, (Hot start!), Houck 1-2, 2 BB, 2 SB, Hernandez 1-2, 2 BB, K, Morabito 1-3, BB, K, Suero 0-2, K #Mets
RE: McLean  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16466682 DanMetroMan said:
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Season debut at DH for BK


HR
Is McLean the two way prospect?  
Metnut : 4/12/2024 9:41 pm : link
He’s more likely to make it as a pitcher but has 75 power tool despite high whiff rate?
RE: Is McLean the two way prospect?  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2024 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16467086 Metnut said:
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He’s more likely to make it as a pitcher but has 75 power tool despite high whiff rate?


Yes he is. P/DH, monster pop, huge swing and miss
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2024 10:12 am : link
Hayden Senger to @RumblePoniesBB, Matt O’Neill to @SyracuseMets and Joe Suozzi activated and will join @BKCyclones #Mets
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