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GFAN52 : 4/2/2024 6:49 pm
In this simulation, quarterbacks Caleb Williams, Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels were off the board, as were wide receivers Malik Nabers and Marvin Harrison Jr. That left the Giants to choose from Joe Alt — the best left tackle prospect in this draft — as well as tight end Brock Bowers and quarterback J.J. McCarthy. This seems too high for McCarthy.

Round 1, No. 6 overall: Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
Round 2, No. 47 overall: Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington
Round 3, No. 70 overall: Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan
Round 4, No. 107 overall: Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State
Round 5, No. 166 overall: Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
Round 6, No. 183 overall: Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville


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I’d actually  
cjac : 4/2/2024 6:50 pm : link
Be happy with this
WOWEE!  
Rod in St Cloud : 4/2/2024 6:50 pm : link
Sign me up for that!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2024 6:51 pm : link
I'd be more than pleased with that scenario.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2024 6:51 pm : link
Though I think there's no shot in hell Pennix Jr. lasts to 47.
If they would be lucky enough to get those players.....  
Fishmanjim57 : 4/2/2024 6:52 pm : link
It would be a 5 star draft for Big Blue!
Odunze  
cjac : 4/2/2024 6:52 pm : link
Is one of those guys that changes how defenses have to play when he’s on the field.

The question is does Penix last that long
Penix falling to 47 would be a surprise to me.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/2/2024 6:52 pm : link
Hes easily worth a late first.
I'd be happy  
section125 : 4/2/2024 6:53 pm : link
with that scenario.

I just do not believe Penix makes it that far.
I'd love this  
Sean : 4/2/2024 6:54 pm : link
I just don't see a world where Schoen is waiting until 47 hoping the QB is there.
These are mocks that don’t make sense  
UConn4523 : 4/2/2024 6:55 pm : link
without seeing the other teams that are passing on QB twice. Genuinely don’t know what the purpose of them are. That said, sign me up.
None of the top 6 QBs are lasting to 47.  
Chris684 : 4/2/2024 6:56 pm : link
No way. Top of round 2? Maybe but even that’s doubtful.
RE: Penix falling to 47 would be a surprise to me.  
ThomasG : 4/2/2024 6:56 pm : link
In comment 16454198 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Hes easily worth a late first.


Agree it would be a surprise to last to 47. The easily worth it remark...not so sure.
You will rarely catch me talking in absolutes regarding the draft  
j_rud : 4/2/2024 6:58 pm : link
But after his pro day there's no chance of him lasting until the middle of the 2nd round.

If you like him you take him at 6. The question has always been his health. I'd say that question has been satisfied based on how he's moving. His arm is incredible. I'm fine with him at 6.
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sb from NYT Forum : 4/2/2024 6:59 pm : link
Yes  
Amtoft : 4/2/2024 7:01 pm : link
please
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2024 7:03 pm : link
My most likely three scenarios:

1) We stick @ six & don't take a QB because Joe/Dabs don't think any remaining warrant going 6.

2) We trade up & take a QB.

3) We take a WR at six & then trade back into the first for a QB.

While I'm not the biggest Joe fan-he's been alright IMO-I do respect that he's not afraid to wheel & deal.
Michael Penix RAS score  
Go Terps : 4/2/2024 7:08 pm : link


"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024."
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That draft is outstanding  
Mike from Ohio : 4/2/2024 7:15 pm : link
As it unrealistic. They have a lot of QB needy teams passing on a lot of very highly regarded QBs. That isn’t how the NFL generally works.
Nice  
AcidTest : 4/2/2024 7:16 pm : link
draft, but unrealistic, because as others have said, Penix is unlikely to last to #47.
RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
gary_from_chester : 4/2/2024 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16454221 Go Terps said:
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )


He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.
Other  
Toth029 : 4/2/2024 7:18 pm : link
High RAS scores: Kyle Boller, Tim Tebow, Marcus Mariota, Blaine Gabbert, Tyree Jackson

Anthony Richardson got a full 10.00 last year.
RE: RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
robbieballs2003 : 4/2/2024 7:20 pm : link
In comment 16454227 gary_from_chester said:
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )



He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.


I can't get the college football championship out of my head with him.
Please, for all that is holy  
Sam Huff : 4/2/2024 7:22 pm : link
Get a QB with the first pick!
RE: Other  
Go Terps : 4/2/2024 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16454229 Toth029 said:
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High RAS scores: Kyle Boller, Tim Tebow, Marcus Mariota, Blaine Gabbert, Tyree Jackson

Anthony Richardson got a full 10.00 last year.


I think that score serves to do is show that Penix:s knee injuries don't seem to be hampering him physically.
RE: RE: RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/2/2024 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16454232 robbieballs2003 said:
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )



He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.



I can't get the college football championship out of my head with him.


Can't let 1 game steer everything.
RE: Other  
Gman11 : 4/2/2024 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16454229 Toth029 said:
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High RAS scores: Kyle Boller, Tim Tebow, Marcus Mariota, Blaine Gabbert, Tyree Jackson

Anthony Richardson got a full 10.00 last year.


Well a QBs vertical jump and broad jump are so integral with playing the position. Eli's broad jump must have been out of this world.
Penix won't last till 47.  
Optimus-NY : 4/2/2024 7:35 pm : link
Don't see it happening.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
Blue21 : 4/2/2024 7:59 pm : link
In comment 16454240 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )



He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.



I can't get the college football championship out of my head with him.



Can't let 1 game steer everything.
I don't watch a lot of CFB but that game sticks in my mind too. But also think if not for the injuries he would be a top 3 pick maybe top 2. He is definitely talented enough I my non expert mind.
RE: ...  
Breeze_94 : 4/2/2024 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16454193 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Though I think there's no shot in hell Pennix Jr. lasts to 47.


Did anyone have Levis, a better prospect IMO, lasting till 33 last year? Anything can happen, especially with the MAJOR medical red flags that Penix has
I know Michael Penix, Jr. had a bad game  
DonnieD89 : 4/2/2024 8:24 pm : link
in the national championship, but did McCarthy play that much better than he did during that game? I didn’t think so. Yeah, everyone has JJ ranked as the top four best quarterbacks and could possibly go in the top 10. To me, I think Michael Penix is a top 15. If that is the case and the Giants really like him, then the hell with everything and just take him at 6. Penix has not been injured in 28 games in close to four years. Would be ideal though if they cook Rome at six And turned around and got Penix late in the first round with a trade up.
Sure, then maybe Latu in round 3  
Formerly TD : 4/2/2024 8:28 pm : link
Fuck it - dream big.
Penix at 47? LOL  
Giant John : 4/2/2024 8:32 pm : link
I predict he’s a first round pick
Doubt Jenkins lasts that long  
jeff57 : 4/2/2024 8:43 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
crooza172 : 4/2/2024 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16454232 robbieballs2003 said:
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )



He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.



I can't get the college football championship out of my head with him.


I’m so sick of seeing this take with pennix. First of all, it’s one game. Second of all, duude…how many times did he hit receivers in the hands that dropped balls killing drives? What about the deep ball Odunze just last in space? Give me a break here.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Michael Penix RAS score  
crooza172 : 4/2/2024 8:45 pm : link
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"Michael Penix Jr. is a QB prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored a 9.71 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 28 out of 947 QB from 1987 to 2024." Link - ( New Window )



He’s the guy I want in blue.

Just my opinion and many will jump all over me….but I think he will end up being the best QB in this draft class. Arm talent is undeniable, athleticism is underrated, and he is a gamer IMO. Hope one way or another he is our pick, but I’m guessing Schoen/Daboll prefer Maye, Daniels, or McCarthy. Of those three, I prefer Daniels.



I can't get the college football championship out of my head with him.



I’m so sick of seeing this take with pennix. First of all, it’s one game. Second of all, duude…how many times did he hit receivers in the hands that dropped balls killing drives? What about the deep ball Odunze just last in space? Give me a break here.


And to add to this, go watch a bunch of games from Maye and Williams that were horrid too…..
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BigBlueinDE : 4/2/2024 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16454193 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Though I think there's no shot in hell Pennix Jr. lasts to 47.


Inclined to agree.
Everyone seems to love this pick combo  
Go Terps : 4/2/2024 11:00 pm : link
WR + Penix. The only problem is that it's likely a fantasy.

So why not just flip it (Penix + WR) and make it a reality? I don't understand why Odunze + Penix is an amazing fantasy but Penix + Legette/Mcconkey/Polk would be an unbearable reality. This is a really deep WR class, and the second round has a ton of quality at the position.
That would be a solid draft  
Highlander : 4/2/2024 11:04 pm : link
However, if the opportunity is there to draft down to acquire additional draft capital then that would be the direction to go. WR Adonia Mitchell is also an excellent prospect who could be a solid #1. I see him going towards the end if round 1 in most mock drafts. Dude is a stud.
Seems pretty unrealistic  
Johnny5 : 4/3/2024 8:49 am : link
#6 is the only one I can see happening. Second and third picks will be gone by the time we pick. This draft is just a fan's wishful thinking... lol
RE: Everyone seems to love this pick combo  
Johnny5 : 4/3/2024 10:23 am : link
In comment 16454481 Go Terps said:
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WR + Penix. The only problem is that it's likely a fantasy.

So why not just flip it (Penix + WR) and make it a reality? I don't understand why Odunze + Penix is an amazing fantasy but Penix + Legette/Mcconkey/Polk would be an unbearable reality. This is a really deep WR class, and the second round has a ton of quality at the position.

I actually agree with you. I don't really care for Penix and I hate his injury history but if they TRULY like Penix they are better off just taking him at 6. I don't see them getting him this late. Actually that goes for any of the 6 QBs being talked about at length this year, IMO. If they REALLY like one of these guys, just take them at 6 (or go get them with a trade up).
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