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New kickoff rules

gary_from_chester : 4/2/2024 8:09 pm
Article in the Athletic (link below).

Seems like this is a big change and an opportunity for smart teams to gan advantage via strategy and roster utilization. I haven’t seen the similar XFL rules in play but from the article it sounds like we might expect this to significantly impact the games.

Excerpted from the article:

NFL’s hybrid kickoff basic rules

Zone rules:

• The ball has to be returned if it’s kicked into the landing zone.
• If the ball is kicked short of the landing zone or out of bounds, it will be placed on the 40-yard line.
• The ball can still be returned if it rolls to the end zone or kicked to the end zone through the air.
• If the ball is kicked into the landing zone, rolls into the end zone and gets downed by the kickoff team, it will placed at the 20-yard line.
• If the ball is kicked through the air to the end zone and gets downed, it will be placed at the 30-yard line.

Procedural:

• Every member of the coverage team (kicking team) aside from the kicker has to have one foot on the 40-yard line.
• The coverage team cannot move until the ball is touched by the return team or hits the ground in the landing zone.
• The return team can have nine to 10 players blocking in the set up zone depending on whether it has one or two returners (maximum two returners).
• The return team must have at least seven players on the 35-yard line (it can have two or three players off the line but in the set up zone).
• The return team cannot move until the ball is touched or hits the ground (presumably a referee will signal when they can move since their backs will be turned to the landing zone).

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I know we’re all focused on the draft, but this seems like a big change; interested to see how the new ST coach schemes things to take advantage of the rule changes.

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this is a great point  
LittleBlue : 4/2/2024 8:16 pm : link
It's clearly the most significant fundamental change to the rules of play since at least the PAT was moved back.

There will be teams that win games on the basis of planning for this better.
It's too complicated  
Ira : 4/2/2024 8:55 pm : link
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Here's a quick Youtube video of  
BigBlue in Keys : 4/2/2024 10:18 pm : link
an XFL kickoff. It's a completely new play. I have a feeling it will benefit teams with better rosters early where I always felt like special teams was more of an equalizer.


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The next step in ruining the game we love.  
Spider56 : 4/2/2024 10:19 pm : link
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Bill Polian  
Mike in NY : 4/2/2024 10:21 pm : link
Said he would instruct his kicker to just try for a touchback every time and let other teams be the test subjects for what works and what doesn’t.
What's the landing zone?  
ConsistentGiantFan : 4/2/2024 10:51 pm : link
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RE: What's the landing zone?  
BlackLight : 4/3/2024 12:07 am : link
In comment 16454469 ConsistentGiantFan said:
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The area between the 20 yard line and the goal line.
RE: The next step in ruining the game we love.  
BlackLight : 4/3/2024 12:09 am : link
In comment 16454434 Spider56 said:
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.


Yeah, I've always said we need more touchbacks in what has become the most useless play in the entire sport.
Giants finally fix punt returns, now kicks are going to be a problem  
Blue Dog : 4/3/2024 12:23 am : link
I don't think they have a real kick returner at the moment, Parris Campbell did it last year. I think Isaiah McKenzie might a little so that would help him if he's battling Gunner Olszewski for a roster spot. Gray was no good at it.

Dylan Laube is a fun draft prospect. So he played weak competition at New Hampshire, but he got 9 all-american awards because he was a great punt/kick returner and running back for them (good hands too). He was the Senior Bowl Offensive player of the week, so he's no hidden talent, but it is impossible to tell where he could be drafted.
RE: The next step in ruining the game we love.  
MookGiants : 4/3/2024 1:02 am : link
In comment 16454434 Spider56 said:
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.


How does one argue that this is another example of ruining the game we love?

The kickoff is the most boring play in sports these days in the NFL. It sounds complicated and you could argue they went a little too far with it, but you can't argue that this is the next step in ruining the game we love.

You’ll probably see a lot more returns  
gary_from_chester : 4/3/2024 6:58 am : link
Since kicks into the endzone that are not returned are placed at the 30 yard line. The trick is - will kicking it shorter result in an average starting position better or worse than the 30 yard line for the return team. Game score and late game strategy will also be interesting to see. The importance of Special Teams play and coaching just ratcheted up quite a bit with this rule change; IMO will make kickoffs interesting to watch instead of the snooze fest they’ve become.
Seems more interesting than I thought.  
section125 : 4/3/2024 7:19 am : link
I wonder if the referee will blow his whistle when either the ball hits the ground or the receiver picks up/catches the ball - what starts the play in motion?
RE: Seems more interesting than I thought.  
gary_from_chester : 4/3/2024 7:31 am : link
In comment 16454555 section125 said:
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I wonder if the referee will blow his whistle when either the ball hits the ground or the receiver picks up/catches the ball - what starts the play in motion?


I’m assuming there is no ‘signal’…just like a snap from center to QB, no movement allowed until ball contacts ground or player. Don’t think players will have their ‘back to the play’ like it says in the article…will be positioned in a way they can swivel their view forwards and backwards. The lack of movement until contact with ground or player and the positioning on the field turns this into a pseudo ‘running play’; maybe Eric Gray will have a role 😀again.
i assume that the return team is watching the kicking team so  
oghwga : 4/3/2024 8:30 am : link
they know when the ball is in play so that will bring up some false start flags or something similar if the kicking team moves early. there will definitely be some growing pains and it's going to impact training camp and practices and rosters. Lots of procedures to learn and maybe some different bodies than the usual ST type players.
Kicking team will use LBs and DBs. Receiving team will use more TEs  
Ivan15 : 4/3/2024 9:47 am : link
And linemen. I can see why the Giants signed all those blocking TEs.

Although a good kickoff return has always been exciting, there just wasn’t enough of them. This rule should put a lot more strategy into the kickoff.
Seems like kick off the ground but low, blasted towards the 20  
FranknWeezer : 4/3/2024 10:50 am : link
that then rolls hard and fast through the back of the EZ (a 'worm burner,' so to speak) might be an effective option for the kicking team. Assuming no player can get in the way of it to return it, ball should be placed at the 20.
A returned kickoff going all the way is one of the most exciting plays  
Spider56 : 4/3/2024 10:56 am : link
If the kickers are now stronger than before, move the kickoff back to the 20… or do away with the tee … but turning it into a circus sideshow is not the answer.
RE: A returned kickoff going all the way is one of the most exciting plays  
BlackLight : 4/3/2024 2:04 pm : link
In comment 16454771 Spider56 said:
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If the kickers are now stronger than before, move the kickoff back to the 20… or do away with the tee … but turning it into a circus sideshow is not the answer.


Most of what happens in football (or any sport, for that matter) is a circus sideshow. The difference is you've been watching the circus for so long that you've convinced yourself that a guy getting shot out of a cannon is completely normal behavior.
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