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| Ownership has shown more patience with general managers. Jerry Reese outlasted Coughlin by two years, and Dave Gettleman got four years as GM despite producing no success. Schoen and Daboll came to the Giants after working together for four years in Buffalo. Their synergy has been heralded as an asset. But their futures might not be linked. “I certainly don’t see them as a package deal,” Mara said. “They did come in together obviously and did work together, but they both have different jobs, different responsibilities and could have different levels of success.” |
Every bit of logic agrees that getting a QB in the door that the Franchise is in agreement with 're-sets' the clock.
A WR doesn't. Another bad year with more coaching staff issues could very possibly mean he's out.
Because he has had 3 offseasons and the roster still sucks balls. It's a big year for both.
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There's ZERO takeaway from this quote. "They both have different jobs...." Well, yeah. And why would anyone think if Dabs got fired that Joe would get fired???
Because he has had 3 offseasons and the roster still sucks balls. It's a big year for both.
While I agree the roster is tepid at best:
First, the third offseason has not ended, so you are wrong there.
Second, it will take 2 more(in addition to this one) to build a roster worth talking about.
I do not think it is a big season at all for either, unless Daboll absolutely melts down like Judge. They have 10 years of ineptitude to overcome.
When Pat Shurmur was fired, Mara was asked at the PC if the W-L record should have been better, given what Shurmur had to work with.
His answer was "Frankly, yes." It will be the same thing when Daboll is sent packing.
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There's ZERO takeaway from this quote. "They both have different jobs...." Well, yeah. And why would anyone think if Dabs got fired that Joe would get fired???
Because he has had 3 offseasons and the roster still sucks balls. It's a big year for both.
This team is actually five players away from being competitive... (3) OL, (1) top WR and (1) QB
The defense was good enough to get this team to the playoffs.
Meanwhile, Mara's answer is what he SHOULD say. He still has the option to fire both guys.
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In comment 16454311 4xchamps said:
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There's ZERO takeaway from this quote. "They both have different jobs...." Well, yeah. And why would anyone think if Dabs got fired that Joe would get fired???
Because he has had 3 offseasons and the roster still sucks balls. It's a big year for both.
This team is actually five players away from being competitive... (3) OL, (1) top WR and (1) QB
The defense was good enough to get this team to the playoffs.
Meanwhile, Mara's answer is what he SHOULD say. He still has the option to fire both guys.
I agree with you, Giants still have plenty of needs…but 5 players away? Think of it this way - if the guy under center is named Mahomes or Allen or Jackson or Burrow - are the Giants competitive? Hell, we were ‘competitive’ with DJ when he was healthy. The right QB is the holy grail of team building; sure, we need better OL and a stud WR and more….but get a dynamic QB and we will be competitive. No QB out of this draft and it’s a lost season in my view.
The two (Coach and GM) should collaborate obviously and the GM's job is to get the best players and the coaches job is to get the most out of them (collectively).
The two should only be linked insofar as their performances are the same. good or bad.
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In comment 16454311 4xchamps said:
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There's ZERO takeaway from this quote. "They both have different jobs...." Well, yeah. And why would anyone think if Dabs got fired that Joe would get fired???
Because he has had 3 offseasons and the roster still sucks balls. It's a big year for both.
While I agree the roster is tepid at best:
First, the third offseason has not ended, so you are wrong there.
Second, it will take 2 more(in addition to this one) to build a roster worth talking about.
I do not think it is a big season at all for either, unless Daboll absolutely melts down like Judge. They have 10 years of ineptitude to overcome.
If he gets fired it is because the roster sucks. Nobody is getting fired now so if he is it means the roster still sucks.
Hyatt too. Most teams don't get 3 starters per draft, which Schoen did in 2023