Let's get this party started early. Rangers didn't do themselves any favors against Pittsburgh the other night, I expect they'll come out and play a much better game tonight. Devils didn't fare too well against Pittsburgh last night either, blowing a 3-1 lead going into the 3rd period by giving up 5 unanswered to lose 6-3. Penguins aren't dead yet, but with that loss last night, I think the Devils' chances are shot.
Looks like Rempe will be back in the lineup and Cuylle will come out again. I figured Laviolette would keep Rempe out of this one to avoid the sideshow that is inevitable with MacDermid, or maybe he feels like they need a shot in the arm after a rough outing against Pittsburgh and a less than stellar performance in Arizona. Cuylle seems like an odd choice to come out. As others alluded to in the last game thread, Vesey has had a difficult go of it lately, maybe he should get a game or two in the press box.
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K'Andre absolutely rag-dolled Marino. And then gave him the "too small". The clips are amazing.
Who was it who "took on" Trouba and just immediately skated away? Lol that was hilarious
Rempe has to learn how to "hockey fight", get hold of the jersey. He takes some real haymakers.
Don't fuck with the Rangers. They can't be pushed around anymore.
I'm not a Devils fan, and I think he'd spend a lot of time suspended in today's game, but he was a great player.
I see Trouba as a lesser version of Stevens (maybe significantly lesser, but definitely similarities in their game), probably why you don't like him either.
That part of Smith's quote was pretty stupid seeing that we are talking about one hit that was even remotely suspension-worthy.
But on the whole I thought the body of his comments were appropriately measured aside from that stretch.
They really need to tighten up open space in their defensive zone.
Forwards need to get back quicker on their backcheck
With respect to 5v5 play, the third line is creating more scoring chances than the first line. It’s a head scratcher why Zibanejad and Kreider are not creating more scoring chances.
We need badly for them to create more scoring chances 5v5 in the playoffs.
They're a very WEIRD fanbase when it comes to the Rangers, especially Lundqvist. They're obsessed with that guy and their fans are on nearly every single social media post about him. Something about Marty, all the time.
But God damn, enough of those turds. Nice payback for last year. Enjoy.
They really need to tighten up open space in their defensive zone.
Forwards need to get back quicker on their backcheck
I agree with this and would add that if they don't fix this and be more consistent on the defensive end with Grade A chances, they won't get out of the second round. I have this overarching feeling that they let up too many goals (214) more than Florida, Boston, and Carolina and that could be a big problem in the playoffs when scoring goals is much harder imo.
They're a very WEIRD fanbase when it comes to the Rangers, especially Lundqvist. They're obsessed with that guy and their fans are on nearly every single social media post about him. Something about Marty, all the time.
But God damn, enough of those turds. Nice payback for last year. Enjoy.
I have no dog in this fight, I wouldn't care if Devils and Rangers fans beat each other bloody (verbally of course) but bringing up things Stevens did in a completely different era vs the game today is like making fun of a goalie for wearing a mask. Cheap shots were never ok, but hits to the head weren't treated like they are now and a lot of defenseman were taught to play the body like Stevens did. there was no such thing as a defenseless player. You're on the ice, you don't want to get trucked, keep your head up.
Anyway, Rangers went a long way to wrapping up the 1 seed. 3pts up on BOS with 6 left is almost insurmountable the way the NHL hands out points.
In the general NHL thread good discussion about no one wanting to seize WC2 (or MET3)
I know there are no easy outs in the playoffs, but if I am the 1 seed, I'd much rather face WAS, DET or PHI (probably in that order) than NYI or PIT (though if Jarry remains the circus he's been the past month don't care about PIT and they're a longshot anyway)
They really need to tighten up open space in their defensive zone.
Forwards need to get back quicker on their backcheck
With respect to 5v5 play, the third line is creating more scoring chances than the first line. It’s a head scratcher why Zibanejad and Kreider are not creating more scoring chances.
We need badly for them to create more scoring chances 5v5 in the playoffs.
Like Lundqvist last night, your top line is your best line. Zib and Kreider are not the top line, and havent been for a while.
Agree about them needing to step up, but I don't view them as the first line.
I've been to way more Rangers/Devils games in NJ than any other matchup between two teams and they're just a strange group of people. I don't know if you saw that rear naked choke video of the kid putting the Devil fan in a headlock from last year after the Devil fan attacked him or whatever. But that's how they are, they like to put their hands on you and there's a lot of physical altercations at those games.
I've been to tons of Giants at Eagles games and they never get physical. They're obnoxious but not in that way. I mean I hate them, but to be honest with you, the whole away stadium hostility is not just exclusive to Philly. Chicago Bears and Miami Dolphins were very obnoxious, same with New England but I went during the Brady years so they kind of had a reason to be arrogant lol
Also, note: Rangers AT Flyers is very peaceful. I've been to 10 Rangers games and never one incident. Not even shit talking. They're very chill, believe it or not.
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Isn’t so tough anymore huh? Loving seeing his teeth all bloody ahaha
This game is chippy for sure
Rempe isn’t the one that starts all this shit. The insecure little bitches on the other teams that decide they want to prove how tough they are by putting a rookie in his place are to blame. Shitstain teams like your team know they can’t win the game so may as well try to be fake tough guys and pick on the kid, lol. As a fan, you should be embarrassed. They suck at hockey but boy do they have a guy that can beat up a rookie! Embarrassing
Oh stop. Now rempe is the victim?!? Guy throws a dirty elbow giving a guy a concussion and waves at bench after he pussies out on a fight now he a victim? It’s pretty simple, if you play the tough guy role, you answer the bell.
If it’s the “other” team starting it was does Lav put him on ice at start tonight? Answer that? Why is he on ice if he just trying to mind business keep his head down and play hockey.
Please, he came into league playing the tough guy role, now he has the rep and what comes with that is fights and challenges
You do realize that every guy that he has fought has come FOR HIM. It's not like he's gone out of his way to hunt down Martin, DesLauriers, Reaves, etc. Martin eyed him up on practically his first shift. They want a piece of him, and he faired well in all of those fights except the one in Columbus.
Laviolette probably figured there would be one scrap with Rempe, but the Devils further embarrassed themselves last night and got owned in that line brawl. John Marino got beat like a drum by K'ANdre Miller, who never fights anyone.
Lol yeah all of these games were 2018-present
Lafrenière now at 26-28-54 in 76 games. Since the end of February, it’s 9-9-18 in 16 games. Really coming into his own.
That kind of hurts because GAG line was my all time favorite, each of them, and each had his offensive personality, with #19 being a superb disher to his L and R. But, this '2nd line': holy s..t. I did not realize it is the highest scoring line in NHL, that's some serious s..t with top lines for EDM, TOR, COL, etc. And with Laf and Trocheck playing serious 2-way hockey have to think their +/- is way up there too.
the worst I'd ever seen though was Bruins Whalers in Hartford, Adams division playoffs 1990 game 6.
so many fights in the stands they stopped the game for a while for security and police to quell the violence.
great game too, Whalers won in OT (Kevin Dineen) to send the series back to Boston for game 7.
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Passed Jean Ratelle’s 109 points in 1972 and is now only behind Jagr’s 123 for the highest scoring season in team history.
Lafrenière now at 26-28-54 in 76 games. Since the end of February, it’s 9-9-18 in 16 games. Really coming into his own.
That kind of hurts because GAG line was my all time favorite, each of them, and each had his offensive personality, with #19 being a superb disher to his L and R. But, this '2nd line': holy s..t. I did not realize it is the highest scoring line in NHL, that's some serious s..t with top lines for EDM, TOR, COL, etc. And with Laf and Trocheck playing serious 2-way hockey have to think their +/- is way up there too.
+2 for Laf and +15 for Trocheck, both lower than Kreider at +19. Interesting :)
Yessir, emphasis on 'still'. I think this sentiment grows in gravitas over the years.
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In comment 16455651 Greg from LI said:
Ain't that the truth. He's playing his best offensive hockey lately and I was wrong to keep thinking Drury should send him packing for a big name RW.
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touché, guilty as charged...(:> ...but don't those +/- include PP so bit of a skew for 5 on 5? Or am I off the res?
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Not that I think plus/minus tells you all that much. I just couldn't help myself given all the shots thrown at Kreider (and Mika)
touché, guilty as charged...(:> ...but don't those +/- include PP so bit of a skew for 5 on 5? Or am I off the res?
Plus minus does not include PP goals
Don't get me wrong, I even commented to a friend watching the game last night that Kreider is becoming a bit of a powerplay specialist. Or at least you don't really feel his impact much out there until he pops up for a goal (he does still have 19 even strength goals). But at the end of the day, nearly 40 goals on the season, it's not nothing.
the worst I'd ever seen though was Bruins Whalers in Hartford, Adams division playoffs 1990 game 6.
so many fights in the stands they stopped the game for a while for security and police to quell the violence.
great game too, Whalers won in OT (Kevin Dineen) to send the series back to Boston for game 7.
There was no violence at the Philly game I went to but the people around me just never shut up. Didn't help that the Rangers got pounded in the game.
I went to a Rangers-Pens game in Pittsburgh last year and that was fine. Had a good time other than the Rangers losing that one, too. I've only been to a handful of Rangers games but I'm pretty sure I've never attended a win.
You do get a plus if you are on the ice and your team scores a shortie and you do get a minus if you are on the PP and your team gives up a shortie.
Kreider has 2 SH goals this year and Mika has 2 (and overall the Rangers have 6 SH goals) so worst case though if Kreider and Mika was on the ice for all 6 it influences their +/- by 6. But you can argue it should, but....the Rangers have allowed 6 SH goals against this year (not easy to see if Kreider or Mika was on the ice for those), but it probably evens out to net 0 impact or close to it.
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Passed Jean Ratelle’s 109 points in 1972 and is now only behind Jagr’s 123 for the highest scoring season in team history.
Lafrenière now at 26-28-54 in 76 games. Since the end of February, it’s 9-9-18 in 16 games. Really coming into his own.
That kind of hurts because GAG line was my all time favorite, each of them, and each had his offensive personality, with #19 being a superb disher to his L and R. But, this '2nd line': holy s..t. I did not realize it is the highest scoring line in NHL, that's some serious s..t with top lines for EDM, TOR, COL, etc. And with Laf and Trocheck playing serious 2-way hockey have to think their +/- is way up there too.
don't feel so bad. Ratelle did it in 63 games.
exactly
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Just like the pens will always be cunts.
LOL. You’re still mad we sent you home last year? It’s okay…. You have a shot this year
Yes of course it bothered me. Doesn't change my opinion that the Devils are a joke and always will be. They had their moment. Rangers were so embarrassed and put off by that series loss they couldn't fire the HC fast enough. You rode the hot goalie who will never stop another shot to a series win. And all 10000 devils fans celebrated and talked shit all summer long like only they can. Don't forget to shine that round 1 trophy.
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Just like the pens will always be cunts.
LOL. You’re still mad we sent you home last year? It’s okay…. You have a shot this year
Fuck the Devils lol ... You're talking about the playoffs and your garbages team ass team is going to be sitting home. Oh wait no one cares. What a weird fanbase. Maybe sub Philadelphia Eagles?
1994 and never more!!!
2003 is a long time ago too. Just saying.
Gretzky was right all along.
Rangers played a flawless first period on both ends of the ice. Maybe got complacent in the second, made some inexplicable turnovers like Kreider making a back pass at the offensive blue line that directly led to Bratt setting up Hischier. Panarin with a few bonehead plays too. But the third period was excellent.
Kakko and Lafreniere playing like they are right now is really important going into the playoffs.
Personally, I've been saying it all year, I think too much is made of the Zibanejad/Kreider limited production 5 on 5. As has been mentioned, yes +/- is an antiquated stat in some ways, but the fact is, that line is putting up more goals than they are conceding, often against other teams' top lines. I would like to see them score more, Zibanejad had 91 points last year, he's likely going to finish the season in the high 60's/low 70's this year, but I think 93/20 do enough on special teams to make up for their lack of production at 5 on 5.
Not only did we not try to keep him, we used him as an add-on in the McDonagh trade. Will go down as maybe the worst trade in Rangers history. Definitely the worst in my lifetime. He was not considered a bust, but I think the Rangers did not plan to resign him when his contract expired so they shipped him off to get something for him.
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how come we didn't try to keep JT Miller? Was he considered a bust?
Not only did we not try to keep him, we used him as an add-on in the McDonagh trade. Will go down as maybe the worst trade in Rangers history. Definitely the worst in my lifetime. He was not considered a bust, but I think the Rangers did not plan to resign him when his contract expired so they shipped him off to get something for him.
Ever hear of a guy by the name of Rick Middleton?
Miller always had talent, but was long rumored to have a bad attitude and to be too enamored of the NY nightlife. And, in fairness, the Bolts gave up on him fairly quickly as well, shipping him off to Vancouver for a scrub and a couple of picks (one of which they flipped for Blake Coleman, the other they drafted a goalie who's been in the AHL for three years now).
So yeah, terrible trade since the Rangers got nothing much of value in return, but no one thought that Miller would break out to this extent.
Kings got: 1666 games from their four
Rangers got: 73
Some players mature later than others.
Kings got: 1666 games from their four
Rangers got: 73
Damn good post. Completely forgot about that. I don't remember Rangers past details like I do the Giants.
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in 1996 they dealt Ray Ferraro, Mattias Norstrom, Ian Laperriere, and Nathan LaFayette to the Kings for Jari Kurri, Marty McSorley, and Shane Churla. The three guys they got played a grand total of 73 games for the Rangers, with zero impact. Norstrom was a rock-solid, physical defenseman for the Kings for 11 seasons, team captain for six of them. Exactly the kind of defenseman the Rangers desperately needed. Ferraro was a good second line center, played four years for the Kings. Laperriere was a classic bottom six agitator, playing nine years for the Kings. Even LaFayette, the throw-in, played more games for the Kings than the Rangers got from Kurri/McSorley/Churla.
Kings got: 1666 games from their four
Rangers got: 73
Damn good post. Completely forgot about that. I don't remember Rangers past details like I do the Giants.
Yes an AWFUL trade. THank you Colin Campbell, whose mission was to remove every last non-English speaking Canadian from the Rangers roster, then remove anyone skill except Messier, Leetch and Richter. He wanted all players like himself. Limited talent, tough and effort. McSorley is one of the worst players I've ever seen. Kurri was washed up.
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in 1996 they dealt Ray Ferraro, Mattias Norstrom, Ian Laperriere, and Nathan LaFayette to the Kings for Jari Kurri, Marty McSorley, and Shane Churla. The three guys they got played a grand total of 73 games for the Rangers, with zero impact. Norstrom was a rock-solid, physical defenseman for the Kings for 11 seasons, team captain for six of them. Exactly the kind of defenseman the Rangers desperately needed. Ferraro was a good second line center, played four years for the Kings. Laperriere was a classic bottom six agitator, playing nine years for the Kings. Even LaFayette, the throw-in, played more games for the Kings than the Rangers got from Kurri/McSorley/Churla.
Kings got: 1666 games from their four
Rangers got: 73
Damn good post. Completely forgot about that. I don't remember Rangers past details like I do the Giants.
Yes an AWFUL trade. THank you Colin Campbell, whose mission was to remove every last non-English speaking Canadian from the Rangers roster, then remove anyone skill except Messier, Leetch and Richter. He wanted all players like himself. Limited talent, tough and effort. McSorley is one of the worst players I've ever seen. Kurri was washed up.
should say "non-English speaking, non-Canadian".
Kovalev and Zubov, Nedved, he couldn't wait to get rid of them.
Zubov - one of only four hall of famers drafted by the Rangers, and he played almost his entire career elsewhere. Sigh.
You get Ulf Samuelsson to play WITH Zubov, not instead of. Stupid move.
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how come we didn't try to keep JT Miller? Was he considered a bust?
Not only did we not try to keep him, we used him as an add-on in the McDonagh trade. Will go down as maybe the worst trade in Rangers history. Definitely the worst in my lifetime. He was not considered a bust, but I think the Rangers did not plan to resign him when his contract expired so they shipped him off to get something for him.
Ever hear of a guy by the name of Rick Middleton?
UGH! As if they didn't have bars in Boston. Compounded the awful Espo trade with one even worse. A dark day.
Fucking hate that trade still to this day. Lucy sucked here.
another disaster