He’s not going to fit a traditional role but either did Kiwi. Use him creatively and on NASCAR packages with Burns, Thibs and Azeez and tell me your O coordinator isn’t fearful.
see this coming. Didn't think we had a chance to bring him back, but I am happy we did. He wasn't a star, but he made some plays and played well at times.
Can cover TE and RB, also can be effective in blitz packages. Not every player can be a star, in fact most players are only useful in the right situations. He can help us if used properly.
he's back. First, we gave up a pick for him so I'd hate to just cut bait. Second, he's good on special teams (think replacement for Cam Brown). Third, he is a decent role player.
It seems to me that people are overstating things. This is a GOOD AND SMART move by the Giants FO. Happy he's still around. Hope the DC is creative enough to use him well.
I don’t understand the negative comments this move.
True he’s not the star some thought he’d be coming out of Clemson, but he’s a decent backup who adds speed and flexibility to the defense … and with his athleticism, there’s still some hope that he can be more.
mentions all the time that he thinks Simmons could be phenomenal. Banks thinks it would be beneficial if he had some time in the film room with Simmons. Hope it happens!
Two great signings today. What a great day indeed. Go NY.
Oh, and just for the record, I would prefer one of the great WRs at 6 instead of either McCarthy, Nix, or Pennix. Thanks for listening…it’s okay if you disagree.
That’s what he is: a short area guy:
Blitz on 3rd downs as a down low S
Cover TEs , RBs out of the backfield as LB.
Stay with them, try to keep them from catching the ball and tackle them if they do.
another player that can move all over the place. Outside of CB2 I think the defense could be very good. I’m still hopeful they bring Adoree back on a one year deal.
What’s scary is the offense. This may be like the mid-90’s when the defense was rock solid, but the offense was anemic and we were scratching at .500 records every year.
Can cover TE and RB, also can be effective in blitz packages. Not every player can be a star, in fact most players are only useful in the right situations. He can help us if used properly.
Yes situational in the pros. He is not great at taking on blocks so other teams could plan against him if he were a regular rusher.
He excelled at Clemson in mirroring agile QBs; a nice tool to have on D.
I disagree. He never lived up to his draft status, then again we didn't spend a first round pick on him but he is a good role player that I'm happy will return. We need players like him.
But even if he is a JAG, he has performed at a pretty high level in his discipline, which is football. So if he didn't get to a higher level, don't insult the guy.
I can pretty much guarantee that the people who shrug him off have not been among the top 1% of their discipline in the entire world.
He is not a JAG he has elite speed and can cover and spy unlike most if the LBs on the roster. He is good on specials and can blitz and did more for the defense then Ward, caughlin and Brown did combined.
He is not a JAG he has elite speed and can cover and spy unlike most if the LBs on the roster. He is good on specials and can blitz and did more for the defense then Ward, caughlin and Brown did combined.
Simmons was put on the field for 33% of defensive snaps; Coughlin, 87%. Doesn't seem the coaches agreed with you about who was more valuable.
Ward weighs 285 pounds; not really a comparable player. But he did have 5 sacks to Simmons 1.
As for Cam Brown, since he didn't play a single defensive snap in all of 2023 (STs only), yes, you can safely say Simmons did more for the NYG defense than Brown did.
he's back. First, we gave up a pick for him so I'd hate to just cut bait. Second, he's good on special teams (think replacement for Cam Brown). Third, he is a decent role player.
This. I don't get the hate, he made several drive ending plays last year in big spots in really limited time with no camp or pre-season with us. He's still fast, big and talented, nothing to hate about this.
I think the issue is he never lived up to his ceiling.
With that said, he is so unique so he can absolutely help a team. We can kind of use him as a microcosm of our OL the last 10+ years. People call him a Swiss Army knife. He can play multiple roles. Well, the problem is that he's never mastered any role. With our OL we are so worried about flexibility in case of an injury that we never seem to develop our guys at one main position. I think that has been Simmons' biggest issue.
over the Austrians came without the benefit of their beloved knife. They last fought in 1499 and the knife wasn’t invented until nearly 400 years later. 😎
Klaatu just make the the first references of the Habsburgs in the history of BBI?
Habsburgs or Hapsburgs? I've seen both spellings used.
I've always seen as Habsburgs.
The German spelling of the name is Habsburg. The American spelling has been Hapsburg, but I think that is based on some incorrect dictionary or something.
If Bowen can make use of him, then its a benefit. If not, adios. They still need to fill out the roster, and as some have said he IS a good special teams player and his athleticism will be helpful with the new KO rules.
^This. He has some value and I'm sure the contract is for the veteran minimum, or maybe a little more, with some incentives.
Good signing.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
+1
This.
Like Daniel Jones, enough time has passed to conclude that what he has been his whole NFL career is actually what he is.
Oh, and just for the record, I would prefer one of the great WRs at 6 instead of either McCarthy, Nix, or Pennix. Thanks for listening…it’s okay if you disagree.
That’s what he is: a short area guy:
Blitz on 3rd downs as a down low S
Cover TEs , RBs out of the backfield as LB.
Stay with them, try to keep them from catching the ball and tackle them if they do.
Simmons has shown that he still has a few big plays in him. Great to have him back. The team also needs his enthusiasm.
I'm not sure this is correct.
Bowen liks split safety coverage and often uses dime with a "money" LB/S hybrid to replace a linebacker. That could be Simmons.
What’s scary is the offense. This may be like the mid-90’s when the defense was rock solid, but the offense was anemic and we were scratching at .500 records every year.
Yes situational in the pros. He is not great at taking on blocks so other teams could plan against him if he were a regular rusher.
He excelled at Clemson in mirroring agile QBs; a nice tool to have on D.
Obviously the Giants agree.
Papa and Banks on Simmons. - ( New Window )
If he can help the team great, if not, move on.
But even if he is a JAG, he has performed at a pretty high level in his discipline, which is football. So if he didn't get to a higher level, don't insult the guy.
I can pretty much guarantee that the people who shrug him off have not been among the top 1% of their discipline in the entire world.
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another supposed "swiss army knife" that can't play.
And what did the Swiss Army ever win?
Didn't they beat Italy?
I mean Greece beat Italy...
Simmons was put on the field for 33% of defensive snaps; Coughlin, 87%. Doesn't seem the coaches agreed with you about who was more valuable.
Ward weighs 285 pounds; not really a comparable player. But he did have 5 sacks to Simmons 1.
As for Cam Brown, since he didn't play a single defensive snap in all of 2023 (STs only), yes, you can safely say Simmons did more for the NYG defense than Brown did.
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another supposed "swiss army knife" that can't play.
And what did the Swiss Army ever win?
Ask the Habsburgs.
Habsburgs or Hapsburgs? I've seen both spellings used.
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Klaatu just make the the first references of the Habsburgs in the history of BBI?
Habsburgs or Hapsburgs? I've seen both spellings used.
I've always seen as Habsburgs.
Good on special teams. Good at covering tight ends.
Agree--I like the hell out of this guy. He made some great plays last year.
It had to be done.
File it under "Stupid Question Answered."
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Klaatu just make the the first references of the Habsburgs in the history of BBI?
Habsburgs or Hapsburgs? I've seen both spellings used.
I've always seen as Habsburgs.
The German spelling of the name is Habsburg. The American spelling has been Hapsburg, but I think that is based on some incorrect dictionary or something.
For every good play he makes he leaves just as many on the field
That said - he is cost effective and athletic and can help