don't want the QB on the board, I'd rather have #1 next year than an extra 1 in this draft. I'd want a future 1 to use to trade up in a future draft to get a QB. Because that has to be addressed at some point.
No I wouldn’t. If they don’t want McCarthy themselves then take
but would really hope we could get another pick. This class is deep in WR. We could still get a good one and have another player to boot. Obviously I don't think JJ is the answer for us.
If you can draft a potential franchise QB without having to move up, then you do so, and reject all trade offers. And there is also a good chance they would lose Penix if they did that trade. So making that trade would mean that they are OK with the very real possibility they could miss out on both QBs, which is hard to believe.
Talking JJ but not without a pause. That trade would be tempting but I am going to trust Daboll to develop JJ who has some pretty natural ability and seems to be a great kid
If he is there @6, and you are JS and BD and think the QB position is important the question of trading way back, plus getting future picks (and you may not be around for the future) it’s best to go bird in the 🖐️.
I get people are down on the '25 QB class, but I keep going back to this: no one-NO ONE-had Joe Burrow going first overall in 2020 @ this point in time in 2019. A lot can change over a fall. QBs will rise who we didn't expect. Don't be so dismissive of the '25 QB class.
& this is coming from someone who-in the scenario Eric painted out-would take JJM.
Ahead to the 2025 draft and its QB class means Daboll's fate is already sealed. I do think he is a good evaluator and would like to see him develop another young kid and mold him like he did prior in Buffalo.
I get people are down on the '25 QB class, but I keep going back to this: no one-NO ONE-had Joe Burrow going first overall in 2020 @ this point in time in 2019. A lot can change over a fall. QBs will rise who we didn't expect. Don't be so dismissive of the '25 QB class.
& this is coming from someone who-in the scenario Eric painted out-would take JJM.
Thats just hoping for something. Hope is not s strategy. It could be like 2022 with just Pickett.
And if a prospect like these guys emerge they will likely go 1-2 and the Giants being in same position as this year
Maybe try to build some capital for next year as well. Quite possible to grab Penix plus more. We are so short on quality starters we need to stock the shelves and embrace the rebuild
Does anyone in a million years think NYG would draft Shedeur Sanders? You'd be signing up to manage Deion which I see many teams being scared off by that. So that's one off the board right there.
Good Lord, I want a QB. I might be one of the most vocal anti Jones people here. I'm sick of the DJFC treating his '22 season, where he threw a total of 15 TDs, as some All Pro like season.
All I'm saying is that a lot can change between now & then. & you're right...'25 QB draft class could be like '22 QB draft class. But people speaking in absolutes about next year's QB class...I just disagree.
If he is there @6, and you are JS and BD and think the QB position is important the question of trading way back, plus getting future picks (and you may not be around for the future) it’s best to go bird in the 🖐️.
But someone in the sixth round could be Brady redux, also.
There’s a solid chance based on the teams picking behind 6, that Odunze or Nabers would be there. I’d do it if they included a 2025 1st as well, no problem.
I don't know if I'm doing it if you add next years first. This team needs talent. The gap is so painfully obvious each and every week. Stay put or trade up, but get a marquee talent.
Or make Justin Jefferson part of the deal.
This cant be real.
I'd want a 2025 1st or 2nd to be included as well or new deal.
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An overpay, would need more … like a 3 this year and a 1 next.
I'd want a 2025 1st or 2nd to be included as well or new deal.
*no deal*
I think he had him #3 no? I thought Sy had Caleb & Daniels 1-2.
Still have your own second and third to address CB and DT.
JJ McCarthy or Terrion Arnold and Brian Thomas Jr?
Exactly
Agreed
The wild card here is whether or not there is a well hidden love for Nix or Penix and the plan would be to take them at 11.
& this is coming from someone who-in the scenario Eric painted out-would take JJM.
I think the Giants will take McCarthy if he’s there at 6.
I love the receivers so I’m good either way.
I wouldn’t make the trade unless Minny offered a 3 or 4 this year and a three next year.
& this is coming from someone who-in the scenario Eric painted out-would take JJM.
Thats just hoping for something. Hope is not s strategy. It could be like 2022 with just Pickett.
And if a prospect like these guys emerge they will likely go 1-2 and the Giants being in same position as this year
Deal with there here and now . There is a QB now
Walk out of #6 with a new QB or #1 WR unless there is an offer you can't refuse
Walk out of #6 with a new QB or #1 WR unless there is an offer you can't refuse
This is a big reason why I'm skeptical the Vikings can trade up. Sure, the 2025 first is nice but you're trading out of the lottery in 2024.
If a team has a high second round pick I dont see the 23rd pick as all that special.
All I'm saying is that a lot can change between now & then. & you're right...'25 QB draft class could be like '22 QB draft class. But people speaking in absolutes about next year's QB class...I just disagree.
All-day 24/7
7-11 baybeee
But someone in the sixth round could be Brady redux, also.
Just for the 11 and 23, probably not.