What if scenario: if McCarthy is there, and the Vikings call

In comment 16459026 j_rud said:

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I don't know if I'm doing it if you add next years first. This team needs talent. The gap is so painfully obvious each and every week. Stay put or trade up, but get a marquee talent.

Getting 11 and 23, you are talking about two high end starters. That’s adding talent.

And Kadarius Toney instead of Jamar Chase or Jaylen Waddle.

In comment 16459030 ryanmkeane said:

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In comment 16459026 j_rud said: Quote: I don't know if I'm doing it if you add next years first. This team needs talent. The gap is so painfully obvious each and every week. Stay put or trade up, but get a marquee talent. Getting 11 and 23, you are talking about two high end starters. That’s adding talent.

Elite talent.

Because I want a blue chip player. But...

If Minn wants my pick, they won't win me over with 11 and 23. Why? Because that exchange gets them their QB, but not us.

I would be more inclined to consider their 11 and NEXT years #1. In that case, I still get a good player this year, but have ammo to aggressively get our QB nest year. I may ask for another pick involved, but what I really want is an elite QB. If I can't get him today, I'm listening for options to get him tomorrow.

If we don't then probably yes, but would ask for more. A third this year or a second next.

There is a chance we get Nix and Thomas with 11 & 23. Maybe MN throws in a 2025 2nd round pick as well?

If the Giants are high on JJ he's our pick. If not I think in addition to 11 and 23 at least a #2 in 2025 would be the minimum. Otherwise just take the receiver

In comment 16458996 Sy'56 said:

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no. Walk out of #6 with a new QB or #1 WR unless there is an offer you can't refuse

Agreed. This is spot on. QB, blue chip WR, or significant assets to manipulate the draft to get our QB next year.

Yes I do.

But they need to cough up their #1 next year as well.

D.E.A.L.

Grab a top WR and keep residual net pick.

Wheeling and dealing.

In comment 16459055 Rjanyg said:

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There is a chance we get Nix and Thomas with 11 & 23. Maybe MN throws in a 2025 2nd round pick as well?

Minnesota doesn't have a 2025 2nd round pick. They traded it to Houston as part of the package for #23.

and the pick is yours, Minnesota!

:-)

the Giants think of McCarthy to answer that

getting more shots in the top 100 as better for our team. I know QB is a high bust/hit potential, but generally, when I look at where some great players NY has drafted:

1. Strahan: 2nd round
2. Barber: 2nd round
3. OBJ: 12th in 1st round
4. Hakeem Nicks: 29th in 1st round

I get the counter points, but I'd rather have as many cost-controlled shots as possible if we are not getting a QB we want to bet several years on.

I don't think the year matters, whenever we don't win a Superbowl, we wish we lost a few games, so we are up a few spots in the draft.

On top of that. Need ammo for a 2025 qb

So yes, I trade down and expect to take Penix at 11 and get one of the good WRs at 23.

and I’ll spring for a Rolex for Gano to give up jersey no. 9 for him.

But I'd pass on that deal. They'd have to throw in their 2025 #1 to even consider it. Scenarios where they include Jefferson are interesting, but probably still pass. Who is going throw him the ball?

If not, then yes I would.

But I would need more to move down. Make them overpay or say no.