LSU WR Malik Nabers is known as a “high maintenance”

Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters.

but there was a whole lot of nothing in that tweet. Going to need specifics.

It sounds like Nabers is the pick if they can't get a QB they like. I would prefer Odunze, but Daboll could definitely have a lot of flexibility scheming up a Z like Nabers to attack from all over the field.

Tony Pauline is or close to the worst.

I can see the other 2...being more high maintenance

MHJr is by all accounts is a great person and a great teammate. Everyone at OSU lauds his maturity and personal accountability.

Implying MHJr has some sort of high maintenance issue is really strange.

its freaky

come out within the next few weeks and I mean BS, not actual verifiable info.

In comment 16459669 Dave on the UWS said:

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its freaky

Except he's a little bigger and faster.

he falls lower to them.

In comment 16459674 Darwinian said:

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In comment 16459669 Dave on the UWS said: Quote: its freaky Except he's a little bigger and faster.

Oh and his vert is 4 inches greater.

For comparison's sake, Malik Nabers had the same 40 and vert as Odell Beckham's combone score, in high school.

If true, he could be the next very good but pain in the ass WR.

I also saw somewhere (not sure if it was on this board or not) where when asked about playing for the Giants he said something along the lines of, he's good with it but they have to get the QB situation resolved. That sent up red flags for me. If they draft Nabers it's very unlikely they get a QB this year. This means that Nabers would be playing with one of the worst QB situations in the league for at least 2 seasons. I could see him then trying to force his way out of NY due to the subpar QB play if that turns out to be the case.

Nabers also casually mentioned he'd only trained for his pro day for 3 weeks because he had a toe injury.

in alphabetical order:

Harrison - high floor, high ceiling
Nabers - lowest floor, highest ceiling
Odunze - highest floor, lowest ceiling

The lowest floor on Nabers (IF true), scares me a little. Henry Ruggs type of incident would suck.

IF no trades (unlikely):

1 - Chi QB1 (Williams or outside shot Daniels)
2 - Wash QB2 (Daniels or outside shot Williams)
3 - NE QB3 (Maye or maybe McCarthy)
4 - Ariz WR1 (MHJ or Nabers)
5 - LAC WR2 (Nabers or MHJ)
6 - NYG QB4 or WR3 (McCarthy or Maye; or Odunze)

Odunze = Larry Fitz
Nabers = Beckham

Who do you want?

I prefer Fitzgerald.

Other than the gun issue, there’s nothing to see here.

Not saying he’s going to be a perfect angel, but there’s nothing from LSU that says high maintenance. I work with a couple of his teammates, they don’t have a bad thing to say.

2 of them will be available when were on the clock at 6. Simple as that

before Pat Leonard tries to run him out of town?

if they go WR in the 1st, you go MHJ or Odunze. You can't take another gamble here. Last thing we need is another Toney.

In comment 16459701 prdave73 said:

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if they go WR in the 1st, you go MHJ or Odunze. You can't take another gamble here. Last thing we need is another Toney.

What's the gamble?

who routinely engages in rumor mongering. Screw that guy.

the Diva factor went up when they changed some of the defensive back rules. Especially the hitting rules.

A crappy QB is a HUGE perfect storm of shit...

people on this board believe everything they read on social media. By now you would think the light bulb would go off and people would realize a lot of these rumors are unfounded.

In comment 16459701 prdave73 said:

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if they go WR in the 1st, you go MHJ or Odunze. You can't take another gamble here. Last thing we need is another Toney.

Nabers talent and production is in a different universe compared to Toney.

But most here glossed over the red flags / gun charges with Kadarius Toney as well...

In comment 16459651 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters.

Odunze is not based on everything I have read. But WTFKs.

BANG!

Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...

"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."

Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!

A high maintenance pain-in-the-ass WR (or TE) is the worst. We have had some and they suck the life out of the offense and a QB, and give the coaches migraine headaches. And then a GM has to unwind the whole thing and move him.

Remember?

Between talking to coaches where they played from high school to college, meetings at the combine, pro days, in person visits. They aren’t going to take a tweet from a reporter over their own extensive evaluations. After months and months of gathering information on a player, a GM isn’t going to say “a reporter said on twitter he’s high maintenance, let’s throw all our scouting reports out the window and take him off our board.”

Describing Pauline as a reporter is a stretch.

In comment 16459756 Spider43 said:

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BANG! Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando... "I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field." Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!

I agree and have said the same about Nabers possibly being knocked down on our board with Mara at the helm. I don't see hoe this has anything to do with JJ being a smokescreen though?

it would be Odunze is because he fits the need of the big physical X outside guy which the Giants have not had in forever.

I hate that thinking but when you are a bad team and in trouble the tendency for management is to go with the need over the long term value to preserve their jobs. Then it becomes a cycle.

In comment 16459752 Matt G said:

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But most here glossed over the red flags / gun charges with Kadarius Toney as well...

Toney’s gun incident stemmed from having in the car while going to confront a gang member/bookie and there was possible intent to use it. He always tried to flee from the cops. The two situations aren’t even in the same stratosphere

And yes I know the charges were dropped

But the red flags are there.

As well as this Combine comment

Malik Nabers on Giants QB situation: “Going to New York wouldn’t be a bad idea. The QB situation, they’re gonna figure it out, especially if they have a caliber receiver coming like me. They’re gonna wanna get me the ball so I’m sure they’re gonna wanna get a QB that can do that.”
Nabers Arrest - ( New Window )

In comment 16459787 HardTruth said:

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And yes I know the charges were dropped But the red flags are there. As well as this Combine comment Malik Nabers on Giants QB situation: “Going to New York wouldn’t be a bad idea. The QB situation, they’re gonna figure it out, especially if they have a caliber receiver coming like me. They’re gonna wanna get me the ball so I’m sure they’re gonna wanna get a QB that can do that.” Nabers Arrest - ( New Window )

That comment by Nabers, he's not wrong.

In comment 16459756 Spider43 said:

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BANG! Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando... "I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field." Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!

If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football.

decision at 6.

In comment 16459803 Darwinian said:

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In comment 16459756 Spider43 said: Quote: BANG! Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando... "I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field." Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess! If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football.

That is a stupid ass comment...

In comment 16459813 WillVAB said:

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decision at 6.

Why?

He may be the best player in the draft.

In comment 16459651 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters.

Odunze

in this thread are even dumber than the ones made about Kayvon Thibodeaux two years ago.

In comment 16459823 Eric from BBI said:

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in this thread are even dumber than the ones made about Kayvon Thibodeaux two years ago.

I agree. And Pauline is getting exactly what he wants which is sad. Until I see what some of these questions are, I’ll ignore these “reports”.

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Buffalo just dumped a guy who ran himself out of two teams. One w a top 3 QB.

You can be asshole. But be a productive own who doesn't fuck the rest of the team.

Tony Pauline hasn't been accurate in probably 10+ years

That Harrison’s dad was viewed as mature but was actually a murderer (allegedly but strong allegations) against him? I gave a really hard time divorcing that given his dad never got charged, but it’s also not fair to hold it against the son.

In comment 16459816 jvm52106 said:

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In comment 16459803 Darwinian said: Quote: In comment 16459756 Spider43 said: Quote: BANG! Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando... "I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field." Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess! If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football. That is a stupid ass comment...

Daniel Jones. Drafted because he "looked the part" and he had a choir boy personality. Can't play football.

In comment 16459821 BigBlue7 said:

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In comment 16459651 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters. Odunze

Are you friends with Odunze and Nabers?

In comment 16459849 Darwinian said:

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In comment 16459821 BigBlue7 said: Quote: In comment 16459651 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters. Odunze Are you friends with Odunze and Nabers?

I'm not necessarily friends with Nabers, but I have his number and he has mine. I've worked with him on at least 5 occasions and have met/spent some time with him on 20+ occasions. I don't know where Pauline is getting this info. The dude is probably one of the most lowkey WRs I've ever seen and I've met every big name NFL/CFB WR over the last 25 years. It's almost like Pauline pulled it out of his ass because of where he went to school and he's a similar player to Odell.