prospect who could struggle in a big city, per
@TonyPauline
“There are off-the-field questions Nabers has had to answer to during the draft process, and teams must feel comfortable with those answers if they’re going to invest an early draft pick and millions of dollars in his services.”
𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗦: LSU WR Malik Nabers is known as a “high maintenance” prospect who could struggle in a big city, per @TonyPauline - (
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Implying MHJr has some sort of high maintenance issue is really strange.
Except he's a little bigger and faster.
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Except he's a little bigger and faster.
Oh and his vert is 4 inches greater.
For comparison's sake, Malik Nabers had the same 40 and vert as Odell Beckham's combone score, in high school.
I also saw somewhere (not sure if it was on this board or not) where when asked about playing for the Giants he said something along the lines of, he's good with it but they have to get the QB situation resolved. That sent up red flags for me. If they draft Nabers it's very unlikely they get a QB this year. This means that Nabers would be playing with one of the worst QB situations in the league for at least 2 seasons. I could see him then trying to force his way out of NY due to the subpar QB play if that turns out to be the case.
Harrison - high floor, high ceiling
Nabers - lowest floor, highest ceiling
Odunze - highest floor, lowest ceiling
The lowest floor on Nabers (IF true), scares me a little. Henry Ruggs type of incident would suck.
IF no trades (unlikely):
1 - Chi QB1 (Williams or outside shot Daniels)
2 - Wash QB2 (Daniels or outside shot Williams)
3 - NE QB3 (Maye or maybe McCarthy)
4 - Ariz WR1 (MHJ or Nabers)
5 - LAC WR2 (Nabers or MHJ)
6 - NYG QB4 or WR3 (McCarthy or Maye; or Odunze)
Nabers = Beckham
Who do you want?
I prefer Fitzgerald.
Not saying he’s going to be a perfect angel, but there’s nothing from LSU that says high maintenance. I work with a couple of his teammates, they don’t have a bad thing to say.
What's the gamble?
Nabers talent and production is in a different universe compared to Toney.
Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...
"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."
Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!
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Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...
"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."
Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!
I agree and have said the same about Nabers possibly being knocked down on our board with Mara at the helm. I don't see hoe this has anything to do with JJ being a smokescreen though?
I hate that thinking but when you are a bad team and in trouble the tendency for management is to go with the need over the long term value to preserve their jobs. Then it becomes a cycle.
Toney’s gun incident stemmed from having in the car while going to confront a gang member/bookie and there was possible intent to use it. He always tried to flee from the cops. The two situations aren’t even in the same stratosphere
But the red flags are there.
As well as this Combine comment
Malik Nabers on Giants QB situation: “Going to New York wouldn’t be a bad idea. The QB situation, they’re gonna figure it out, especially if they have a caliber receiver coming like me. They’re gonna wanna get me the ball so I’m sure they’re gonna wanna get a QB that can do that.”
Nabers Arrest - ( New Window )
But the red flags are there.
As well as this Combine comment
Malik Nabers on Giants QB situation: “Going to New York wouldn’t be a bad idea. The QB situation, they’re gonna figure it out, especially if they have a caliber receiver coming like me. They’re gonna wanna get me the ball so I’m sure they’re gonna wanna get a QB that can do that.” Nabers Arrest - ( New Window )
That comment by Nabers, he's not wrong.
Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...
"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."
Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!
If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football.
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Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...
"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."
Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!
If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football.
That is a stupid ass comment...
Why?
He may be the best player in the draft.
Odunze
I agree. And Pauline is getting exactly what he wants which is sad. Until I see what some of these questions are, I’ll ignore these “reports”.
You can be asshole. But be a productive own who doesn't fuck the rest of the team.
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Johnny Mara at the NFL Annual Meeting on March 30th in Orlando...
"I let the GM and HC build the roster. We have operated the same way for many years here. If they have a conviction about a player, I'm not going to get involved. I'll question them about it, make them defend their position, but the only time I'm going to get involved and exert any influence is if I think it's a conduct issue off the field."
Something inside my head keeps nagging me about Nabers and the #6 pick. After Joka, and much earlier, OBJ, I think the brass would like to avoid drama. And after Neal, I think the brass also wants more of a safe choice/sure thing. That screams Odunze, even if Nabers might have the higher ceiling. As an aside, it's also why I think JJ is a smokescreen. But we'll find out soon enough, I guess!
If want a team of choir boys you will wind up with a team of choir boys who can't play football.
That is a stupid ass comment...
Daniel Jones. Drafted because he "looked the part" and he had a choir boy personality. Can't play football.
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Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters.
Odunze
Are you friends with Odunze and Nabers?
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Which WRs aren’t divas? Haha. I know there are receivers like Mike Evans who are low maintenance, but man does that position attract some characters.
Odunze
Are you friends with Odunze and Nabers?
I'm not necessarily friends with Nabers, but I have his number and he has mine. I've worked with him on at least 5 occasions and have met/spent some time with him on 20+ occasions. I don't know where Pauline is getting this info. The dude is probably one of the most lowkey WRs I've ever seen and I've met every big name NFL/CFB WR over the last 25 years. It's almost like Pauline pulled it out of his ass because of where he went to school and he's a similar player to Odell.