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christian : 4/8/2024 10:10 pm
Just because the Nabers rumors are heating up, a little pattern Eric in Li and I kicked around after the college season -- Schoen has picked a 3rd year SEC WR with 1200+ receiving yards in each of his first two drafts. Nabers would make it 3/3.
Things that make you go...  
Johnny5 : 4/8/2024 10:55 pm : link
... Hmmmm. That's actually very Interesting.
Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
BleedBlue46 : 4/8/2024 11:02 pm : link
Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.
i dont know how teams are separating the top 3 wrs this year  
Eric on Li : 4/8/2024 11:15 pm : link
as much as i think qb is plan A i would be really excited about any of them.

bigger jaylen waddle,
bigger/faster devonta smith,
or bigger jamarr chase.

not really any losing in those choices.
Are those supposed to be commas or something?  
NYDCBlue : 4/9/2024 7:05 am : link
Otherwise please do share whatever you are smoking.

Just pretend this is kindergarten and you will get a gold star for sharing...! :)


Wow, the legend of Robinson begins.
RE: Are those supposed to be commas or something?  
BigBlueShock : 4/9/2024 7:08 am : link
In comment 16461705 NYDCBlue said:
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Otherwise please do share whatever you are smoking.

Just pretend this is kindergarten and you will get a gold star for sharing...! :)


Wow, the legend of Robinson begins.

You clearly have the wrong idea of what he posted. If the “>” is so confusing for you, reading the rest of his OP should have clued you in…
It's an...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/9/2024 7:26 am : link
...arrow, not a greater-than.
 
christian : 4/9/2024 7:50 am : link
The talent level of the SEC is obviously second to none -- but I wonder what how much influence Daboll's time, familiarity, connections etc. come into play.
RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
cokeduplt : 4/9/2024 8:00 am : link
In comment 16461614 BleedBlue46 said:
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.


Next years draft is bad for qb.
By type - Physically, but particularly mentally  
Bob in Newburgh : 4/9/2024 8:10 am : link
would prefer Odunze.

Seems like a guy who is going to do whatever it takes.

Is Slayton unsigned?  
barens : 4/9/2024 8:20 am : link
I: don't think he's getting benched yet.
RE: Is Slayton unsigned?  
christian : 4/9/2024 8:22 am : link
In comment 16461736 barens said:
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I: don't think he's getting benched yet.


Say what now?
RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
NJBlueTuna : 4/9/2024 8:24 am : link
In comment 16461614 BleedBlue46 said:
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.


A lot of people are sleeping on the penn state QB, Allar
RE: RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
barens : 4/9/2024 8:27 am : link
In comment 16461741 NJBlueTuna said:
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.



A lot of people are sleeping on the penn state QB, Allar


I'm not quite sure why anyone would be down on Quinn Ewers either.
If we draft Nabers,  
Gruber : 4/9/2024 8:53 am : link
then to be honest, I am a little embarrassed at who we have throwing to him.
Mind you, Tommy Cutlets launching them to him would be fun.
It makes sense, look at the WR talent the SEC has produced the last 10  
ajr2456 : 4/9/2024 9:23 am : link
Or so years

Evans
Odell
Metcalf
Cooper
Jefferson
Smith
Chase
Ridley
Deebo
Kirk
Jeudy
Waddle
Julio
RE: If we draft Nabers,  
barens : 4/9/2024 9:28 am : link
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then to be honest, I am a little embarrassed at who we have throwing to him.
Mind you, Tommy Cutlets launching them to him would be fun.


Lock may not be a superstar QB, but he can get the ball out to the receivers, he can sling it.
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Rjanyg : 4/9/2024 9:44 am : link
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then to be honest, I am a little embarrassed at who we have throwing to him.
Mind you, Tommy Cutlets launching them to him would be fun.



Lock may not be a superstar QB, but he can get the ball out to the receivers, he can sling it.


Lock is underated IMO.

Also, as much as I would love either Maye or McCarthy this year, we actually have no idea how the 2024 college season will shake out and which QB's will shine and prove to be worth a top 10 selection in the 2025 draft. Case in point, Daniels and McCarthy were complete after thoughts in the preseason.

Bottom line for me, the pick at 6, whether it is a WR or a QB, needs to be a player that elevates the team. The Giants just don't have enough of them.

If is a WR this year, fine. Check that box and move on.
 
christian : 4/9/2024 10:04 am : link
Nabers is the WR in my view who can elevate the team.

His YAC ability can have a Beckham-like impact.
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Thegratefulhead : 4/9/2024 10:13 am : link
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Nabers is the WR in my view who can elevate the team.

His YAC ability can have a Beckham-like impact.
OBJ comments are appropriate, I agree, possibly the most impactful. Also the most likely to be a diva. Odunze, MHjr Nabers is my preference for the big three.
RE: It makes sense, look at the WR talent the SEC has produced the last 10  
JT039 : 4/9/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16461800 ajr2456 said:
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Or so years

Evans
Odell
Metcalf
Cooper
Jefferson
Smith
Chase
Ridley
Deebo
Kirk
Jeudy
Waddle
Julio


Pickens
AJ Brown
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Eric on Li : 4/9/2024 10:24 am : link
In comment 16461858 christian said:
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Nabers is the WR in my view who can elevate the team.

His YAC ability can have a Beckham-like impact.


i would argue that all 3 of chase/waddle/smith elevated the teams they went to right away, chase obviously the most but i think all 3 guys this year are closer to chase than the latter 2.

odunze's smoothness and ball skills at catch point remind me of smith - except he's 45 pounds heavier and faster. that is a highly appealing package for me.

nabers explosiveness/upside at 20 years old is also appealing even if there's maybe a little extra rawness with his game.

im reminded a lot of the waddle vs smith discussions in 2021, except both prospects are bigger/better this time around. it would not surprise me if like then both end up very good picks right away.
 
christian : 4/9/2024 11:49 am : link
Receivers in general add value right away. Eleven receivers drafted in 2023 had 500+ yards, five (plus Dell if he didn't get hurt) would have led the Giants in receiving yards.

I think all four of the top guys (BTJ included) project to be 1K guys in year one.

My feelings on Nabers are Giants specific. They don't have a quarterback who has demonstrated the ability to get the ball downfield. So my guess is the receiver who would succeed the most given the circumstances is the player with most elusiveness with ball in hand. To my eyes that's Nabers.
While the Giants may select Nabers because they like his game, the  
Ira : 4/9/2024 11:55 am : link
fact that he's a 3rd year SEC player probably won't be a significant factor.
RE: RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
BleedBlue46 : 4/9/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16461724 cokeduplt said:
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.



Next years draft is bad for qb.


Bad is Kenny Pickett first qb off the board in 20s. It's going to be mediocre, not bad. I want JJM at 6 and think he could have been up there competing for #1 pick next year. This year is very good for qb, next year is mediocre but it isn't bad.
RE: RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
cokeduplt : 4/9/2024 1:25 pm : link
In comment 16461741 NJBlueTuna said:
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.



A lot of people are sleeping on the penn state QB, Allar



Have you watched him play? He has the look but is terrible
RE: RE: RE: Jaxon Dart, Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders  
barens : 4/9/2024 1:33 pm : link
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Are the top QBs I'm eyeing if we don't get a qb this year. It's not like next year's draft is bad for qb, just mid. Quinn Ewers will be up there too.



A lot of people are sleeping on the penn state QB, Allar




Have you watched him play? He has the look but is terrible


Maybe, but he was just a true sophomore.
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BleedBlue46 : 4/9/2024 1:36 pm : link
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then to be honest, I am a little embarrassed at who we have throwing to him.
Mind you, Tommy Cutlets launching them to him would be fun.



Lock may not be a superstar QB, but he can get the ball out to the receivers, he can sling it.



Lock is underated IMO.

Also, as much as I would love either Maye or McCarthy this year, we actually have no idea how the 2024 college season will shake out and which QB's will shine and prove to be worth a top 10 selection in the 2025 draft. Case in point, Daniels and McCarthy were complete after thoughts in the preseason.

Bottom line for me, the pick at 6, whether it is a WR or a QB, needs to be a player that elevates the team. The Giants just don't have enough of them.

If is a WR this year, fine. Check that box and move on.


I don't think JJM was an afterthought in the preseason, JD certainly was.
RE: While the Giants may select Nabers because they like his game, the  
christian : 4/9/2024 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16462015 Ira said:
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fact that he's a 3rd year SEC player probably won't be a significant factor.


Other than the head coach of the Giants was an offensive coordinator in the SEC and presumably has both strong connections and understands the level of competition and defense?
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BocaGene : 4/9/2024 2:17 pm : link
Re: odunze's smoothness and ball skills at catch point remind me of smith - except he's 45 pounds heavier and faster. that is a highly appealing package for me.

This! Make it so, Schoene.
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BleedBlue46 : 4/9/2024 2:25 pm : link
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Re: odunze's smoothness and ball skills at catch point remind me of smith - except he's 45 pounds heavier and faster. that is a highly appealing package for me.

This! Make it so, Schoene.


If I had to Bet, we are going Nabers or JJM while staying at 6. MHJ, Nwbers or JJM will be there. Daboll is salivating at the thought of unleashing Nabers from everywhere on the field as a true Z.
RE: If we draft Nabers,  
ZoneXDOA : 4/9/2024 3:38 pm : link
In comment 16461772 Gruber said:
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then to be honest, I am a little embarrassed at who we have throwing to him.
Mind you, Tommy Cutlets launching them to him would be fun.
Let's reserve embarrassment for things we actually have a reason to be embarrassed about. I really don't see how we'd stick with Jones this year if he can't get it done with an improved OL and a WR corps Mahomes would salivate over. Lock or DeVito would take over for sure.
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