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What do you think is need in NFL Draft coverage?

Sy'56 : 4/11/2024 1:10 pm
This crossed my mind and I figured most of you have some good thoughts on this.

The market is so over-saturated and about 80% of media falls victim to groupthink with the fear of being called out for being wrong. This time of year (post April 1) it becomes more and more evident.

What do you guys wish you had more of?

-Scouting Reports (more detail / more reports including UDFAs)
-Video (this gets tricky legally)
-Inside information (which is usually filled with lies)
-More NFL team reports / status / front office trends / needs
-More analytical information / statistics
-More background information (childhood, high school, off-field)
-More articles
-More offseason content

To me - this is the only time of year I can listen and read other content consistently and to me - it is all the same with different faces using different synonyms.

Let me hear it. Thanks.
Background/scouting reports  
Mike in NY : 4/11/2024 1:18 pm : link
I like to know more about the people we draft. My biggest complaint about existing coverage is that everyone wants to be the one that claims they were the first to be high on the next late round pick that went on to be good. The result is everyone gets hyped up even UDFA types. I would like people to be honest and say I think such and such player will be a bust if drafted high.
I just wish we could set the calendar ahead 2 weeks  
US1 Giants : 4/11/2024 1:21 pm : link
but people love to speculate so "Inside information" would get the most clicks.
Inside information  
MattinKY : 4/11/2024 1:23 pm : link
seems to be what gets BBI all cranked up.

I appreciate (as I'm sure most others do) all the information you share publicly via this forum.

Maybe a bit more of your perspective as to what you would do if you were king for a day.

It's easy for us all to speculate and arm chair critize after the fact, but professional opinions are few and far between these days.
100% videos to backup opinions.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2024 1:24 pm : link
It is easy for anyone to say anything and rank players but where is the evidence? When people online can back their opinions up with facts then it holds more weight. I go back to the early days of the NFL Network when they had NFL Playbook or whatever it was called. They talked about matchups and showed reasons why they felt one team had an advantage over another. I remember Sterling Sharpe was a host. I remember Jon Runyan was a host one time.

If that can be done with scouting then I think the hardcore fans would love it. This time of year is flooded with opinions pieces and nothing really stands out. Think of what Baldinger does but for prospects. Have the good and the bad.
Inside information is awesome  
jvm52106 : 4/11/2024 1:25 pm : link
but also comparison of rankings and ratings in previous years to actual draft results. Trends that can be seen (or possible trends) and maybe history of those who are in charge (team by team).

I don’t think anything  
UConn4523 : 4/11/2024 1:25 pm : link
unless you started penalizing people for bad takes which you can’t do. I sure would tune into that, though, haha.

It’s just entertainment for most people, the die hard will do their research outside of ESPN/NFLN/etc
Maybe penalize is the wrong word  
UConn4523 : 4/11/2024 1:27 pm : link
but some sort of metric per analyst that acknowledges what they got right and wrong and came with a grade of sorts. It’s wishful thinking but that’s how I feel it should be.
Draft Coverage:  
Hades07 : 4/11/2024 1:40 pm : link
1-If you are talking about draft day/night, the major networks do a terrible job IMO. I have actually been watching Bootleg's coverage the last few years and they do an outstanding job. Nothing but 2 guys who do a lot of work discussing every pick as they happen. They skip none and don't spend too much time bantering about the same 12 or so picks for 3 days like everyone else seems to. So if you want to do draft day, do what they do, they're great.

2-Pre draft stuff. For me I like to see prospects discussed, but I tend not to watch the long film breakdown stuff. Key points on a player kind of stuff, what you see and why.

I've always wanted to see people that really just hone in on single position groups. It is so hard to cover anything, I think a person scouting at home can do a better job if their focus is on OL or DB. If a player is a tweener then they can be covered by the DL guy as a DE and the LB guy as an OLB. That kind of thing.

So you have these position group experts discussing players strengths/weaknesses. scheme fits, team fits, where they would be a value. So maybe a guy would rate a higher grade with a team like Denver than he would a team like Tampa Bay.

With top guys at the same position you can cotrast them, hey, they both have an 88 grade but if you are looking for this or that, this guy would be better. Etc..

Inside info is mostly nonsense, I'd rather hear someone say, I think Sean Peyton will really like this guy because of X reason. That type of analysis is ofthen as accurate as any "indider" information.

I'm very busy most of pre draft season because it is tax time, so I tend to listen more than watch or read. I'll have youtube running on audio only or something, so the video doesn't matter.

3-Post draft, this is the time to cover things like background. Who is this person that your team is getting. Information and analysis about what a team did and added to their team and what is envisioned with the addition. Not grades, I hate grades before these guys played a down. How do they fit in the locker room, scheme. What kind of short term impact they will make. What is their long term outlook based on the quality of the coaching in place.

Division analysis, has the division dynamic altered at all during this draft? Loop it all in with the FA acquisitions, what does the team need to do to win this division. Who are the key players, key rookies, how do this rookies move the bar for their unit. Etc..

I didn't re-read that (its the 11th) but hopefully it makes sense and is in some way helpful to what you are asking.
I’d like to see  
Bones : 4/11/2024 1:40 pm : link
A skit where there would be 5 or so ‘experts on the set simulating the draft room of each team, as part of a mock draft on ESPN or a podcast. For instance, if a team had the 20th pick, the experts would talk about the best players at their greatest position of need may be gone, perhaps who they would have taken, and then speak to who is available and how they would narrow down position and player they would take. Each skit would take about 10 minutes, and ESPN could do several a night during week or two prior to the draft.
Another thing ...  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2024 1:41 pm : link
The first night of the NFL Draft is bearable. However, the further you get away from day 1, the worse the coverage gets on both the NFL Network and ESPN. More people are starting live streaming. I started watching McAfee last year but that sucked the longer it went on. The reason that all these outlets fail is because they get away from what most want to see and it is indepth analysis and clips. If you were able to live stream with some guests and go over reports on players that would go a long way. As you get into day 3, the networks miss all the picks, focus on bullshit, and show the same 3 clips per prospect. It's a waste and leaves us all wanting more.
RE: Draft Coverage:  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2024 1:42 pm : link
In comment 16465145 Hades07 said:
Quote:
1-If you are talking about draft day/night, the major networks do a terrible job IMO. I have actually been watching Bootleg's coverage the last few years and they do an outstanding job. Nothing but 2 guys who do a lot of work discussing every pick as they happen. They skip none and don't spend too much time bantering about the same 12 or so picks for 3 days like everyone else seems to. So if you want to do draft day, do what they do, they're great.

2-Pre draft stuff. For me I like to see prospects discussed, but I tend not to watch the long film breakdown stuff. Key points on a player kind of stuff, what you see and why.

I've always wanted to see people that really just hone in on single position groups. It is so hard to cover anything, I think a person scouting at home can do a better job if their focus is on OL or DB. If a player is a tweener then they can be covered by the DL guy as a DE and the LB guy as an OLB. That kind of thing.

So you have these position group experts discussing players strengths/weaknesses. scheme fits, team fits, where they would be a value. So maybe a guy would rate a higher grade with a team like Denver than he would a team like Tampa Bay.

With top guys at the same position you can cotrast them, hey, they both have an 88 grade but if you are looking for this or that, this guy would be better. Etc..

Inside info is mostly nonsense, I'd rather hear someone say, I think Sean Peyton will really like this guy because of X reason. That type of analysis is ofthen as accurate as any "indider" information.

I'm very busy most of pre draft season because it is tax time, so I tend to listen more than watch or read. I'll have youtube running on audio only or something, so the video doesn't matter.

3-Post draft, this is the time to cover things like background. Who is this person that your team is getting. Information and analysis about what a team did and added to their team and what is envisioned with the addition. Not grades, I hate grades before these guys played a down. How do they fit in the locker room, scheme. What kind of short term impact they will make. What is their long term outlook based on the quality of the coaching in place.

Division analysis, has the division dynamic altered at all during this draft? Loop it all in with the FA acquisitions, what does the team need to do to win this division. Who are the key players, key rookies, how do this rookies move the bar for their unit. Etc..

I didn't re-read that (its the 11th) but hopefully it makes sense and is in some way helpful to what you are asking.


Great minds ...
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 4/11/2024 1:51 pm : link
One of the more frustrating parts of draft day is as the day moves on, the major media outlets continue to discuss the top of the draft, often times making no mention of the picks as they happen live, outside of a list of the last 10 picks or so.

I think there'd be real opportunity for an outlet discussing drafted players as they happen
Assessment of draft success and process  
gary_from_chester : 4/11/2024 1:55 pm : link
Which scouts / organizations have better success and why?

Who / what hits on each position group to a higher degree? What attributes - both physical, mental, etc. do they look for and/or are predictors of success?

Look, some just do it better than others… whether it’s as an individual scout or collectively as an organization. I’m more interested in that and related analytics than I am on five different takes on JJ McCarthy or Drake Maye. Probably not helpful to you or to OurLads content, but that is what intrigues me.
I definitely enjoy seeing tape to illustrate what draft pundits are  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/11/2024 2:02 pm : link
saying --
I've always been a fan...  
bw in dc : 4/11/2024 2:05 pm : link
of video complimenting/supporting the analysis.

I'm going to go in a bit of a different direction here. Once the draft ends, I think getting a comprehensive preview of the next class would be very helpful. I follow the game closely and usually have a decent idea. But you can't beat having that early insight.
A few thoughts  
Rudy5757 : 4/11/2024 2:10 pm : link
1. Everyone loves inside information whether true or not.

2. Traits that teams look for and players that fit. For instance each team likes different types of players. So maybe for an Edge guy it’s length, quickness annd production and a list of guys that fit that. For a CB maybe it’s 3 cone, speed and tackling. Obviously it would be better from a Giants perspective. Sometimes it’s hard to figure why the Giants are picking the 5th guy ranked when the 2nd and 3rd guy is still there. So instead of 30 CBs listed, list only the 5 that are typical picks for that team. I think it would be interesting to see the different lists per team.

3. Character / knowledge of the game. Some guys may look good on paper but don’t know the game or their personality just wouldn’t fit. We can look at film but not the type of guy they are. Again not everyone can play in NY. For instance, I feel that Caleb Williams in NY would be a fail if things don’t go his way. He just seems like like a guy that is great when all is well and can’t handle it when things aren’t so great and would crack with the NY media.



I appreciate the YouTube/podcast format  
Go Terps : 4/11/2024 2:16 pm : link
I'm usually consuming content while I'm doing something else, so that helps.

I'm interested in the team building aspect, ownership influence, historical and big picture contexts, etc.

Thanks for the great content.
More detail  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/11/2024 2:41 pm : link
with stats when it comes to QB's. You see pressure stats but I would like to see it broken down further; down/distance, where on the field, situation of the game (4th QTR, score) etc. Strengths/weaknesses of the D they are against. More clips highlighting this whether positive or negative.

When it comes to OL/DL or any position examples against the better competition.

Background stuff is welcome. Good to point out potential red flags but don't leave out all the good things. Leadership, contributions to a good cause, overcame obstacles, etc.
Not having guest presenters announcing picks  
gtt350 : 4/11/2024 8:06 pm : link
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