Big picture.
Giants have six draft picks.
It's largely assume the Giants will draft a QB or WR with the first pick.
Setting aside the cost of trading up for a QB and possibly losing more picks in this draft, the question(s) are what positions to focus on after the first round with picks 2, 3, and 4.
One can say, "geez, our offense only scored 15 points per game last year, the 1st round pick on offense will help, but it's not enough."
Under this approach, an argument can be made the Giants should draft what they didn't in the first round (the QB or WR), a pass-receiving threat at TE, a RB, and maybe even continue to shore up the OL. Not enough picks to address these all.
BUT... what about the defense?
One can say, "geez, after the 1st round, we need to shift to the defense that still needs another CB, S, interior DL." (Also note the Giants have used a couple of 30 visits on edge rushers)
If you had your druthers, continue to focus on the offense, or shift to the defense after the first round? Remember, you only have three picks in rounds 2-4.
1-nabers
2-Tampa
3-Jaylen wright
4-Theo Johnson
Whether we go Offense/defense, does not matter because with only 6 picks we will still have several holes no matter what. Pick the best player on your board.
That being said, I like how the IDLs seem to align with our 2nd round pick. Same with a handful of corners. I'd be fine with those instead of a WR at 47.
sure, if the entire team was made up of 6 draft picks.,.
Please ..
While we're lacking skill position players, we also have a bad o-line (outside of Thomas), and a QB that exacerbates the problem.
If we're stuck with Jones for another season, maybe the solution isn't adding a new "weapon" but giving him as much time as possible to process the field since he's already slower than most.
Not saying it's what I would do (I'd take a QB and if that's not possible trade down), but there's an argument to be made.
12 free agents on offense and 2 on defense plus 1 trade.
a
12 free agents on offense and 2 on defense plus 1 trade.
a
An important consideration.
One of my biggest pet peeves after the draft is fans saying, "We didn't address X position."
That's going to happen in spades this year.
They also had a lot more on offense to replace between Barkley, seemingly Waller, Tyrod, both starting guards, their swing tackles, and the WR depth.
Defensively, only 2 external FA’s and Burns, but they retained Holmes, Simmons, McCloud and sounds like Jackson may be a re-sign possibility as well.
In a way they already have since the second round pick was shipped out for Burns so that is already one for that side.
In that regard I have always been a proponent of using - when possible - to use your premium picks less to fill holes and more to build a championship quality team and that's why I would be really tempted by a Smith type of player, although CB looks to me like the one real critical need that's still left to filled. Should be an interesting second day.
Burns was Schoen's way of saying to Bowen --we got you a shinny new toy, but you may have to settle for some workarounds in some key spots. I could see pick 47 going CB if we took a WR at 6, but we may be looking at pick 70 (possibly even later) for our first defensive player.
I think we're going to see some low priced veteran signings (safety/CB) with the draft being more about depth and the future as far as the defense goes barring someone that is just too good to pass.
You win with elite level players, not a bunch of "plug the hole ers".
Mara is NOT going to be content with several more 5 or 6 win seasons as they "build" the roster. Schoen has to get this team competitive by 2025.
That will be year 4 of his regime. If it looks like they are several MORE years away at that point, I would expect John's leash to be a LOT shorter.
In that regard I have always been a proponent of using - when possible - to use your premium picks less to fill holes and more to build a championship quality team and that's why I would be really tempted by a Smith type of player, although CB looks to me like the one real critical need that's still left to filled. Should be an interesting second day.
I agree. I know even Sy has kind of written off RB in round 2 and I understand the thinking, but a guy like Trey would really help this offense.
There should be some good DT prospects available Day 2. CB and Edge tend to go early but someone could fall to them at 47. They are more likely to find a safety than a corner or edge in rounds 3-5.
With only six picks, though, they can’t fill every need. In a perfect world I’d prefer they get a QB and a stud WR with their first two picks and then look for DT, edge,
That said, this isn’t a one year rebuild. Take BPA. If you look at areas of need like WR, CB etc they’re high cost positions in FA, so maybe we’ll select from that group. I can see that as more of a factor than just offense vs defense. To be quite frank they both need a lot of work.
Howard probably knows him pretty well too because his son also plays at ND. Its actually an interesting RB class with nobody really in the top 50 or so but a number of players who should be available Rds 3-4 with the potential to come and be solid rotational guys. I like Wright and Shipley myself because of the speed/big-play element, but Estime is certainly in that group.
3rd round - I’d go QB (Joe Milton)
4th round - RB, TE
5th round - Whatever you didn’t take (CB or IDL) in the 2nd round
6th round - Whatever you didn’t take (RB or TE) in the 4th round
SF has 124,133,135
Buffalo 128,133,144
Denver 121,145,147
3rd round - I’d go QB (Joe Milton)
4th round - RB, TE
5th round - Whatever you didn’t take (CB or IDL) in the 2nd round
6th round - Whatever you didn’t take (RB or TE) in the 4th round
If for example oyu go CB in rd 2 - then QB in rd 3, why wouldn't you go with DL in rd 4 if you had them as top priority in rd 2?
That said, it would be nice if need met value at CB or OG. And I'm never against them picking up another pass rusher or OL, even if there's no obvious need.
Via bpa
The Giants added three pieces: Mark Collins, Erik Howard and Pepper Johnson. Of course the round 1 pick, Eric Dorsey was the one who only played in 89 games (come to think of it, that's still a lot of games).
Unless a top 3 quarterback falls to 6, I would pick offensive or defensive line. I think that one more pro-Bowl level addition to the front seven who can rush the passer would give the Giants an elite pass rush and a top 10 defense, and that helps against the best quarterbacks.
I'm probably biased because it was the Giants' defense that finally brought them back to respectable after 17 years in the wilderness. Even though the offense could still not get out of its own way, teams were really a little afraid of facing the Giants, and no one laughed at them anymore.
I’d draft the qb. I’d draft the wr too. But we need to focus a lot of resources to the defense. I’m telling you the giants will only win big again when the defense is great. When in doubt, draft defense. The universe and football gods will smile upon the nyg franchise when they draft and truly cultivate defensive talent.
Not a good match unfortunately.
maybe decent in 2025. They will suck in 2024.
If a QB is the pick in round 1, then the next few picks should be used to maximize the ability to surround him with enough on offense to be successful once given the job. A round 2 WR would probably be the priority, and depending on what Waller does a TE at some point too. With a first round QB I think there will be less expectations around number of wins this year, so Daboll/Schoen likely have more job security and can approach this as a 2 year project.
If a WR is taken then I think you see more of a focus on trying to maximize wins this year. Besides WR, the most glaring holes on the roster are on the defensive side of the ball so I think you see a corner as early as round 2, and then safety and DL addressed later in the draft. No QB round 1 means living and dying by the Daniel Jones contract they gave out, so have to plug as many holes for 2024 as possible.
I don't see where the picks of OBJ and Barkley helped to build the club.
This offseason we had to sign TWO starting guards and we're not 100% sure what we have in JMS.
Point being we need to take BPA if the position isn't absolutely locked down.
1) Fix the oline
2) Build a team identity
I would not mind grabbing the best IOL at 47 and then gorging on defensive players the rest of the way. They absolutely need a DT with some power; a safety; a CB and not necessarily in that order.