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NFT: Nets @ Knicks - 7:30 pm

Doubledeuce22 : 4/12/2024 2:07 pm
Chance to lock up at least the 3 seed tonight as they have tie breaker with Cleveland. No Hartenstein tonight. Don't mess around and get off to a fast start and bury the Nets early.
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Does a win guarantee #3?  
AROCK1000 : 4/12/2024 2:11 pm : link
I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.
RE: Does a win guarantee #3?  
BigBlueShock : 4/12/2024 2:16 pm : link
In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.

Well if the Knicks win and Cavs lose there can be no 3 way tie so yes, they can clinch the 3 seed tonight
RE: Does a win guarantee #3?  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/12/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:
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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.


It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.
Fuck 1 win  
larryflower37 : 4/12/2024 2:47 pm : link
We are winning the next 2 and leaving no doubt. We have a shot at the 2 seed and 50 wins. Thibs will have them fired up for the next 2 games, this is a different team, similar to late 80s/ early 90's Knicks they want to win every time they step on the court.
#LFGK
Always an outside chance Cam Thomas  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 2:49 pm : link
pulls a 40-point game out of his ass, otherwise I’d expect a businesslike performance from the fellas.
Yea, if there was a game they were going to drop  
Chris684 : 4/12/2024 3:08 pm : link
it was last night. They even had a hiccup against the Bulls last week.

Back to the Garden with a chance at 50 wins and the 2 seed. I expect very good performances.
Hope McBride gets back in the groove  
bluefin : 4/12/2024 3:18 pm : link
last night’s bench performance was troublesome.
Why is Precious  
Earl the goat : 4/12/2024 3:41 pm : link
Riding the bench the last week ?
RE: Why is Precious  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 3:42 pm : link
In comment 16466734 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?


Because there is no where to play him
I'm nervous about tonight's game  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 3:49 pm : link
It's a classic letdown game after beating the Celtics in Boston and Brooklyn isn't coming off a back to back like us and will be treating this like their championship.

I can see the Knicks laying a dud in this one, especially if Brooklyn starts out hot from 3.
RE: I'm nervous about tonight's game  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 3:52 pm : link
In comment 16466743 LW_Giants said:
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It's a classic letdown game after beating the Celtics in Boston and Brooklyn isn't coming off a back to back like us and will be treating this like their championship.

I can see the Knicks laying a dud in this one, especially if Brooklyn starts out hot from 3.


no finney-smith, cam johnson and dayron sharpe doubtful, schroeder is questionable
Re: Does a win guarantee #3  
shyster : 4/12/2024 4:12 pm : link
In comment 16466648 Doubledeuce22 said:
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In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:


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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.



It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.


In the event of a three way tie (Knicks, Bucks, Cavs), Cavs win the Central Division because of a better division record than the Bucks.

The Bucks then beat out the Knicks on better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

So three way tie at 49-33 means CLE #2, Bucks #3, NYK #4.

RE: Re: Does a win guarantee #3  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16466773 shyster said:
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In comment 16466600 AROCK1000 said:


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I have heard a 3 way tie with Cavs,Bucks puts us at 4.



It goes Division winner as 1st tiebreak and then Conference record after that which the Knicks have already won from the Cavs.



In the event of a three way tie (Knicks, Bucks, Cavs), Cavs win the Central Division because of a better division record than the Bucks.

The Bucks then beat out the Knicks on better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.

So three way tie at 49-33 means CLE #2, Bucks #3, NYK #4.


I saw this stated somewhere official-ish as well. We do not want a three-way tie.
RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Earl the goat : 4/12/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16466736 nygiants16 said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him



NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog
Listen, I want to win but  
robbieballs2003 : 4/12/2024 4:26 pm : link
The 4 seed can be better than the 2 seed in round 1. The teams at 5, 6, 7, and 8 are all going to be tough but I'd rather play Orlando or Indy than Miami or Philly in round 1.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Mike from SI : 4/12/2024 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


You need guys who can score by getting their own shot in the playoffs. That's why we need Bog.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 4:32 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


Yes 8 man rotation is fine, most of the starters will play 40 minutes a night and Lrecious doesnt fit at the 4 next to Mit h
RE: RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 5:04 pm : link
In comment 16466816 nygiants16 said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog



Yes 8 man rotation is fine, most of the starters will play 40 minutes a night and Lrecious doesnt fit at the 4 next to Mit h

Brendan Brown was on NBA radio this AM and made a great point. Even if you give Brunson 28-30 points ppg when things slow down in the playoffs, do the math on the rest of the rotation and you have to get to 105 or so to go give the Knicks a really good chance to win. Do the math on the rest of the rotation (I did) and it's not as easy as you think to get to that # without Randle's 20+ ppg. No way you can play Precious over Bogdo. They need his shooting and scoring.
The only team i am really scared of is Philly  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 5:29 pm : link
and thats just because of Embiid, he can take over a game with his foul baiting, Knicks have 2 centers who can guard him and i think you can attack him, especially with Brunson going downhill but he could have agame where he gets 20 free throws becuase of Nick Nurse crying all damn game
Bogdonovich is a polarizing player.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/12/2024 5:34 pm : link
He seems to sometimes overestimate his own skills -- but to put that another way, he's fearless. Sometimes too fearless for his own good. He often seems lost on defense, and he's not a good defender to begin with, but at least he seems to me to be giving max effort. He seems to understand what he needs to do to contribute. That's not to say that he can always do it, but he understands it.

If you only see the chaotic D and the inevitable turnovers that result when he tries to drive to the basket against bigger, quicker defenders, he looks like a waste of a roster spot. But he's a legit, veteran shooter/scorer. 12-15 points off the bench is important in the playoffs.

Achiuwa has very little offensive game. He seems to have regressed; maybe he's tired since he wasn't used to playing so many minutes. Maybe the league caught up with his tendencies on tape. He might get a few minutes a night in the playoffs when Hart needs a breather. But there had better be shooters on the floor with him— Bogdonovich, DeVincenzo and/or McBride? — or the Knicks aren't going to be able to keep up.

McBride needs to re-find his game.

Burks is the guy I never want to see on the floor again unless the Knicks are up or down by 30. He's basically played himself out of the rotation. Good.

I'm worried about Mitch. He looks rusty to say the least. He's not getting his offensive rebounds. Somebody on here said he looks like he put on weight. Maybe. I don't think he's as disciplined or driven as Randle or Brunson.
Precious is going to have to be used situationally. Those lineups  
Strahan91 : 4/12/2024 6:10 pm : link
with Precious and iHart/Mitch are killers for spacing. Last night it seemed like Thibs put Precious in to stick him on Brown after Brown was doing whatever he wanted in the first quarter. I thought that was a savvy move and did seem to slow Brown down
RE: Bogdonovich is a polarizing player.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2024 6:49 pm : link
In comment 16466883 81_Great_Dane said:
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He seems to sometimes overestimate his own skills -- but to put that another way, he's fearless. Sometimes too fearless for his own good. He often seems lost on defense, and he's not a good defender to begin with, but at least he seems to me to be giving max effort. He seems to understand what he needs to do to contribute. That's not to say that he can always do it, but he understands it.

If you only see the chaotic D and the inevitable turnovers that result when he tries to drive to the basket against bigger, quicker defenders, he looks like a waste of a roster spot. But he's a legit, veteran shooter/scorer. 12-15 points off the bench is important in the playoffs.

Achiuwa has very little offensive game. He seems to have regressed; maybe he's tired since he wasn't used to playing so many minutes. Maybe the league caught up with his tendencies on tape. He might get a few minutes a night in the playoffs when Hart needs a breather. But there had better be shooters on the floor with him— Bogdonovich, DeVincenzo and/or McBride? — or the Knicks aren't going to be able to keep up.

McBride needs to re-find his game.

Burks is the guy I never want to see on the floor again unless the Knicks are up or down by 30. He's basically played himself out of the rotation. Good.

I'm worried about Mitch. He looks rusty to say the least. He's not getting his offensive rebounds. Somebody on here said he looks like he put on weight. Maybe. I don't think he's as disciplined or driven as Randle or Brunson.


This was a game ago. He's fine. Ankle surgery comes with limitations on being able to train conditioning. It takes time.



What's the point of amateur psychology though? if the effort wasn't there, he wouldn't have come back before the end of the year. He did.
RE: RE: RE: Why is Precious  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16466786 Earl the goat said:
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Riding the bench the last week ?






Because there is no where to play him




NY Giants. You agree with an 8 man rotation in the playoffs ? I’d rather have Precious over Bog


I think at some point Bogs will have an impact in the playoffs
Good to see Sims pick up right where he left off  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 7:44 pm : link
.....perpetually out of position and not rebounding.
Terrible start  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:46 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 7:47 pm : link
Nets getting their kicks in now. Lots of time.
Sims is fucking trash  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 7:48 pm : link
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RE: Terrible start  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:48 pm : link
In comment 16466973 Eightshamrocks said:
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You almost expected that they’d be a little draining and start slow. They’ll be fine once they break a sweat and get in a groove
Why start Sims over Mitch?  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
Seriously
Sims is awful  
Knickstape : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
Low iq. Routinely mis timing jumps and losing his man
RE: Good to see Sims pick up right where he left off  
81_Great_Dane : 4/12/2024 7:49 pm : link
In comment 16466972 LW_Giants said:
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.....perpetually out of position and not rebounding.
Well, he’s big, so he’s a “big,” but he plays small.
RE: Why start Sims over Mitch?  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16466978 Eightshamrocks said:
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So Mitch stays in his normal rotation
This might be a game where we ride the bench for long stretches  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 7:58 pm : link
The knicks look very tired and not mentally focused. No one is cutting, lots of iso at the top of the key ending in chucks. Not pretty.
I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 7:59 pm : link
Very disappointing
RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16466990 Eightshamrocks said:
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Very disappointing


Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.
RE: RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
Eightshamrocks : 4/12/2024 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16466994 steve in ky said:
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Very disappointing



Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.
By not even bothering to play Harstein, that told me they don't care. I know he has a minutes resctiction, but come on. That move is so unlike Thibs.
RE: Always an outside chance Cam Thomas  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16466673 bceagle05 said:
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pulls a 40-point game out of his ass, otherwise I’d expect a businesslike performance from the fellas.

Oh well.
Anytime anyone wants to guard Cam fucking Thomas  
Stu11 : 4/12/2024 8:08 pm : link
I'm all for it.
RE: RE: RE: I guess they don't care about getting 50 wins  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:09 pm : link
In comment 16466999 Eightshamrocks said:
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Very disappointing



Because they are spent coming off a big win they don’t care?

Some nights you just come out flat, it happens. It has nothing to do with them caring out not.

By not even bothering to play Harstein, that told me they don't care. I know he has a minutes resctiction, but come on. That move is so unlike Thibs.


So you’d prefer risk injury and play him beyond recommend minute restrictions?
Embiid exits game, left knee.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:13 pm : link
Celtics and Heat, of course, will be the only East contenders at full strength.
This is what the nets do  
LW_Giants : 4/12/2024 8:17 pm : link
they shoot a ton of contested threes, if you don't pressure them early and they get in a groove, then they are capable of big scoring nights.

You could see this performance from the knicks coming from a mile away.
Nets won’t stay this hot from three  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:17 pm : link
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Burks still trash  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:18 pm : link
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Ugh.  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2024 8:20 pm : link
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Burks is absokutely terrible  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:21 pm : link
had 2 guys ahead of the field and literally holds it and then goes for the steal giving the Nets a wide open layup
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:22 pm : link
Burks. Ugh.
Nets treating this like their superbowl  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2024 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Burks is absokutely terrible  
steve in ky : 4/12/2024 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16467019 nygiants16 said:
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had 2 guys ahead of the field and literally holds it and then goes for the steal giving the Nets a wide open layup


Fortunately he’s not part of the regular rotation anymore. If it weren’t for Duece being sick he wouldn’t be in there now
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:27 pm : link
Cavs winning, Magic losing RN.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2024 8:27 pm : link
Bucks OKC in the first.
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