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NFT: Doc Gooden number retired today

tommcd66 : 4/14/2024 10:41 am
I am not a fan of retiring numbers. It’s gotten out of hand. The Mets retiring Hernandez made retiring Doc and Darryl a pretty obvious progression. That said, it will be fun for Doc to get his day. Hopefully his demons are gone for good. He was only 20 in 1985. It was very believable that we were watching the first of many magical seasons. He was Nolan Ryan with complete control.
I am sure he ‘s suffered a lot of “What if?” bouts the last several decades.
Looks like a beautiful day, should be a lot of fun for Met fans and the old crew.
I am the same age as Doc.  
johnnyb : 4/14/2024 11:10 am : link
It was a privilege to see him pitch in 1984, 1985 & 1986. His ‘85 season was one of the best ever. He was unhittable. Too bad he fell victim to temptation. I hope he is in a better place.
So mets are  
Giants : 4/14/2024 11:11 am : link
Honoring a druggie.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/14/2024 11:14 am : link
Good for Dwight & I hope he's doing well. That 30 for 30 with him & Strawberry was awkward AF @ times between those two.
RE: So mets are  
Optimus-NY : 4/14/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16468136 Giants said:
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Honoring a druggie.


You're a casino supervisor? Keep your trap $hut.
Best pitcher  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2024 12:14 pm : link
I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale

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The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever


All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.
RE: Best pitcher  
Optimus-NY : 4/14/2024 12:33 pm : link
In comment 16468220 pjcas18 said:
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I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale



Quote:


The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever



All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.


good point about numbers being retired. It's one thing to ut them out of circulation for a while, but quite another to retire them.
they can invite Doc and Darrell..  
DefenseWins : 4/14/2024 1:06 pm : link
to the stadium for a ceremony. Doc can sniff the left field foul line and Strawberry can have right field....again.

Serious note.. Doc deserves to have his number retired. I am surprised it took this long.
I stopped watching baseball when NL went to DH  
steve in ky : 4/14/2024 1:18 pm : link
So I don’t subscribe to the MLB package anymore but I do wish I could see that. I used to go to so many games at Shea back then, and Gooden was just magical. One of my favorite games to be at was his one hitter against the Cubs. Ray Knight cost him what should have been an no hitter, but I digress. All those players will always mean a lot to me. I hope he enjoys his day, he deserves it.
RE: Best pitcher  
56goat : 4/14/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16468220 pjcas18 said:
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I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale



Quote:


The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever



All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.


He was awesome at his peak, Seaver was better though and for a much longer time IMHO.
Reminds me of how much the Wilpons sucked.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/14/2024 5:41 pm : link
This should have happened long ago.
RE: RE: Best pitcher  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2024 6:37 pm : link
In comment 16468621 56goat said:
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In comment 16468220 pjcas18 said:


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I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale



Quote:


The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever



All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.



He was awesome at his peak, Seaver was better though and for a much longer time IMHO.


That's why I said "who I've seen". I was too young for Seaver's prime, and never saw Koufax or anyone else who had stuff like Doc.

And Gooden definitely didn't have a lengthy prime. 4-5 years tops before injuries and drugs took hold, but my point was about pure stuff.

His 1985 season is still the best stuff/season I have ever seen.

The fact that  
moze1021 : 4/14/2024 7:04 pm : link
The Mets have 3 pitchers that you could arguably say were most dominant right handed pitchers in the history of the game at their absolute peak is pretty impressive..

And that's not even counting Pedro (or Nolan if you said most dominant for single games)
1 hitter vs the Cubs  
AROCK1000 : 4/14/2024 9:17 pm : link
In comment 16468324 steve in ky said:
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So I don’t subscribe to the MLB package anymore but I do wish I could see that. I used to go to so many games at Shea back then, and Gooden was just magical. One of my favorite games to be at was his one hitter against the Cubs. Ray Knight cost him what should have been an no hitter, but I digress. All those players will always mean a lot to me. I hope he enjoys his day, he deserves it.

I watched that game and remember it lime it was yesterday.
The play should have been ruled an error.
Doc was unbelievable that season!!!
His first few seasons, it was just amazing how good he was.  
Mad Mike : 4/14/2024 10:55 pm : link
Truly amazing. What could have been...
RE: Best pitcher  
Victor in CT : 4/15/2024 7:53 am : link
In comment 16468220 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale



Quote:


The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever



All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.


It wasn't Sonny, it was Colagero's father Lorenzo (Robert DeNiro) who said that.
RE: RE: Best pitcher  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2024 9:23 am : link
In comment 16468958 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 16468220 pjcas18 said:


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I have ever seen in my life.

better than peak Pedro who is 2nd.

Gooden's combination of gas and off-speed stuff was legendary. It makes me nostalgic to remember those days and sad and pissed off those teams only won one title.

In the words of Sonny from Bronx Tale



Quote:


The saddest thing in life is wasted talent and the choices that you make will shape your life forever



All that said, retiring numbers is stupid - ring of honor or team hall of fame - stuff like that should be how you honor your all-time franchise greats.



It wasn't Sonny, it was Colagero's father Lorenzo (Robert DeNiro) who said that.


Someone corrects me on that every single time I say, which is probably every thread that mentions Dwight Gooden or Darryl Strawberry. So thank you - it may be you every time. lol.
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