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Kraft warned Blank about Belichick

Sean : 4/17/2024 8:50 am
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Despite that friendly first session, the unthinkable happened for a billionaire and a legendary coach: Blank and Belichick checked each other's references. Blank spoke by phone, at least twice, to Robert Kraft. Among the NFL owners, Blank considers Kraft his closest friend. Publicly, Kraft and Blank have said Kraft expressed only support and offered praise of his former coach.

But in a conversation with Blank, Kraft delivered a stark assessment of Belichick's character, according to a source who spoke to two people: a close Kraft friend and a longtime Belichick confidant. The source quoted the Belichick source as saying, "Robert called Arthur to warn him not to trust Bill." That account was backed up, the source said, by the close Kraft friend.

Multiple sources said that Kraft spoke with "some candor" to Blank about Belichick, though the sources declined to elaborate. One source close to Belichick said Kraft "was a big part" of why the Falcons passed on hiring him.

The sources said Kraft made clear to Blank that "you'll never have a warm conversation with" Belichick, echoing what Bill Parcells told Kraft in 1996 when he wanted to bust the budget and hire Belichick. "Blank likes coaches who feel part of a family," a Falcons source said, "and it wasn't going to be that way with Bill."


This is also an interesting nugget:
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He is believed to be biding his time until next January for openings on teams he has told confidants he would be interested in coaching: the Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants.


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Kraft seems like a real piece of work here.  
j_rud : 4/17/2024 10:46 am : link
The Belichick ship has sailed but Im worried Mara saw that quote, grabbed some lotion, and headed to the executive shitter.
Kraft is a petty asshole.  
an_idol_mind : 4/17/2024 10:49 am : link
The guy had no problem riding Belichick's coaching to a Super Bowl appearance every couple of years, but now he's trashing him every chance he gets.

To hear him tell it, the Patriots would have won 20 straight Super Bowls if only meanie Belichick hadn't made Tom Brady cry.
Belichick  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/17/2024 10:51 am : link
Is partially responsible for Kraft’s team being the NFL’s 2nd most valuable team at $6.4 billion. It’s disgusting how Kraft has treated that man on his way out.
The only experienced coaches the Giants have hired on modern era  
Go Terps : 4/17/2024 10:54 am : link
Reeves
Coughlin
Shurmur

It would be a huge departure from their M.O. to hire Belichick or Vrabel.

If they fire Daboll I'd look at Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik as more likely.
RE: The only experienced coaches the Giants have hired on modern era  
Sean : 4/17/2024 10:59 am : link
In comment 16471946 Go Terps said:
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Reeves
Coughlin
Shurmur

It would be a huge departure from their M.O. to hire Belichick or Vrabel.

If they fire Daboll I'd look at Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik as more likely.

True. But, if you believe reports Mara wanted Flores.
RE: I mean, what were the New England Patriots before Belichick?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/17/2024 11:37 am : link
In comment 16471672 Greg from LI said:
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A second-rate franchise that had been a doormat for much of their existence. Belichick turned them into the premier organization in the NFL, pretty much single-handedly.


Always amuses me when I’m in New England how much Pats gear I see compared to the days before BP & Bledsoe, when no one up there gave a damn about them.
RE: Belichick  
ThreePoints : 4/17/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16471939 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Is partially responsible for Kraft’s team being the NFL’s 2nd most valuable team at $6.4 billion. It’s disgusting how Kraft has treated that man on his way out.


Billionaire is an asshole, news at 11.
RE: Imagine winning that many Super Bowls as an HC and asst  
Optimus-NY : 4/17/2024 11:48 am : link
In comment 16471605 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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and getting crapped on by the organization you led for years on your way out, including a documentary. Says more about Kraft to me.


I've never respected or liked Kraft. He literally struck lightning twice.
What did Kraft  
pjcas18 : 4/17/2024 11:50 am : link
warn him about?

If you hire Belichick he may take your mediocre team and lead them to 3 SB wins, and then combined with a GOAT QB turn them into a dynasty and win 3 more?
I would think all an owner would have to do is  
David B. : 4/17/2024 11:54 am : link
Watch that doco on the Pats dynasty. To see how the spygate, inflate gate, and the BB-Brady relationship things went down, and Kraft's reaction to them.

If you don't mind that kind of thing in your organization, and risking the fallout from it (AND you have a great QB), Bill might be your guy.

Parcells and Belichick did great things with the Giants, but it was pretty clear by the time they left:

Parcells (in his own mind) had become bigger than the game, and ALWAYS put himself and his own interests ahead of any team he worked for. And by that, I mean beyond what's normal and reasonable.

And Belichick has not proven to be a high character guy. He would do anything, legal or not, ethical or not to win. Some owners will be fine with that. Some not.

At this point, I don't think I'd want Belichick anywhere near the Giants. Might have made sense after Coughlin, but not now. He's already 72. I like that younger blood is FINALLY running the team. And wherever Belichick goes, he's also going to want both jobs. The Giants probably wouldn't do that, even for him.
I live in New England and I have said and I know  
Blue21 : 4/17/2024 11:59 am : link
Many fellow New England Giants fans feel the same way. Once Brady would be gone it would be over and the fans and the press would not put up with his personality.
If Blank was told what is alleged...  
MOOPS : 4/17/2024 11:59 am : link
that Kraft told him, Blank must have been in a coma for the last two decades not to have already known this.
Belichick comes with more baggage than a bunch of old ladies going on a Red Hat cruise.
RE: I would think all an owner would have to do is  
pjcas18 : 4/17/2024 12:18 pm : link
In comment 16472113 David B. said:
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Watch that doco on the Pats dynasty. To see how the spygate, inflate gate, and the BB-Brady relationship things went down, and Kraft's reaction to them.

If you don't mind that kind of thing in your organization, and risking the fallout from it (AND you have a great QB), Bill might be your guy.

Parcells and Belichick did great things with the Giants, but it was pretty clear by the time they left:

Parcells (in his own mind) had become bigger than the game, and ALWAYS put himself and his own interests ahead of any team he worked for. And by that, I mean beyond what's normal and reasonable.

And Belichick has not proven to be a high character guy. He would do anything, legal or not, ethical or not to win. Some owners will be fine with that. Some not.

At this point, I don't think I'd want Belichick anywhere near the Giants. Might have made sense after Coughlin, but not now. He's already 72. I like that younger blood is FINALLY running the team. And wherever Belichick goes, he's also going to want both jobs. The Giants probably wouldn't do that, even for him.


What laws has Belichick broken to win football games or were just being sensationalist?

Kraft and his son  
TyreeHelmet : 4/17/2024 12:26 pm : link
Seem like giant assholes that think they are football geniuses. Ungrateful prick.

Bill might be a bad GM and also an asshole, but if you want to win, his coaching will help you win. I think he could have turned the Falcons into super bowl contenders this year. Cowboys also made a mistake not grabbing him this year.

But if Daboll blows up this year ( especially with Jones as his QB), watch out for Mara to go all out for Bill.
Re: Kraft's behavior  
BobR in Durham : 4/17/2024 12:34 pm : link
Kraft and Blank are friends, fellow billionaires, peers. Belichick was just the hired help.
RE: In no way shape or  
giantstock : 4/17/2024 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16471612 section125 said:
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form do I want Belichick back with NYG now or ever. He ruined the Patriots with his stubbornness. Brady left because of him and his refusal to get offensive pieces..

Absolute total pass.


I disagree with context of this about Bill other than the Offense. No way should he be a GM but other than that this stuff about Brady -- you are making it up imo. Unless your point is he left because he knew Bill's team was going to suck - then yeah -- okay.
RE: RE: In no way shape or  
Mike in NY : 4/17/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16472219 giantstock said:
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In comment 16471612 section125 said:


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form do I want Belichick back with NYG now or ever. He ruined the Patriots with his stubbornness. Brady left because of him and his refusal to get offensive pieces..

Absolute total pass.



I disagree with context of this about Bill other than the Offense. No way should he be a GM but other than that this stuff about Brady -- you are making it up imo. Unless your point is he left because he knew Bill's team was going to suck - then yeah -- okay.


What if he will only come if he is also GM (with that title or through a proxy), Josh McDaniels as OC, Matt Patricia and Bill's son as Co-DC, and Joe Judge as ST Coach?
RE: Regardless one's opinion  
JohnF : 4/17/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16471597 Eric from BBI said:
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his shadow looms large over Daboll right now. Bill Belichick Gets Choked Up Talking About His Love For The NY Giants - ( New Window )


I don't think there is any shadow here. Jerry Jones will go all out for Belichick after McCarthy has another first round exit. It all lines up... McCarthy's contract expires, so no paying a coach to sit, and a HOF coach available.

You'd to be smoking crack to think John Mara would be competitive with Jones, especially since Jones knows he won't be around forever. Jones will give Bill everything he wants...and he has a stacked team, something Bill hasn't had in years.
Mara  
BigBlueCane : 4/17/2024 3:19 pm : link
won't pass up the chance to bring Bill 'home'.
Or maybe BB told Kraft to do him a favor and NOT  
CT Charlie : 4/17/2024 10:24 pm : link
endorse him to anyone but the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles. Perhaps BB wanted a year off to recharge and determine just how badly he wants to push for the record.
Can't trust him yet be helped get him 6 superbowls.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/17/2024 11:53 pm : link
Kraft is a snake
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giantstock : 4/18/2024 12:03 am : link
In comment 16472226 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16472219 giantstock said:


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In comment 16471612 section125 said:


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form do I want Belichick back with NYG now or ever. He ruined the Patriots with his stubbornness. Brady left because of him and his refusal to get offensive pieces..

Absolute total pass.



I disagree with context of this about Bill other than the Offense. No way should he be a GM but other than that this stuff about Brady -- you are making it up imo. Unless your point is he left because he knew Bill's team was going to suck - then yeah -- okay.



What if he will only come if he is also GM (with that title or through a proxy), Josh McDaniels as OC, Matt Patricia and Bill's son as Co-DC, and Joe Judge as ST Coach?


No way as a GM.
lot of piling on  
bc4life : 4/18/2024 8:32 am : link
one of best coaches in NFL history.
RE: if Daboll tanks this year im all for Belichek  
Festina Lente : 4/18/2024 9:01 am : link
In comment 16471666 Eric on Li said:
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what else is there to lose at that point? he's one of if not the best head coach of all time even if brady hid some defificiencies better than we realized.


Agreed
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