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Joe Schoen's Pre-Draft Press Conference

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 8:04 am

Thursday, April 18

Approx. 12:00 p.m. – Senior Vice President/General Manager Joe Schoen Pre-Draft Press Conference

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Giants getting a lot of calls about pick 6  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:20 pm : link
"How far Back would you go?"

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:20 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - will call fellow GMs the day before the draft to see which teams are open to moving
Important to keep things close to the vest  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:22 pm : link
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fancy that  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:22 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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Schoen said when you pick at No. 6, it's important to keep your cards "close to the vest."
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:25 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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Joe Schoen: Giants had 170 players with draftable grades that decided to go back to college and not enter the draft. Wow.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:25 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - you look at the 2025 crop but only weigh it so much.....anything can happen with injuries or a guy stays in school so you cant count on those things
Comfortable going into season with 3 QBs on the roster  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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Joe Schoen: We had a medical meeting Monday night and #NYGiants did not lose many players off their board due to flags for injury.
Schoen  
AcidTest : 4/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
just said he's comfortable going into the season with Jones, Lock, and DeVito. Cue the meltdown.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - have so many options at 6, comfortable will do well
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:26 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Schoen says they would be comfortable going into the season with the three quarterbacks on the roster.
RE: Schoen  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16473744 AcidTest said:
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just said he's comfortable going into the season with Jones, Lock, and DeVito. Cue the meltdown.


Sure. That's why six quarterbacks have visited.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16473747 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Schoen says they would be comfortable going into the season with the three quarterbacks on the roster.


Lunacy, if true.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:27 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - "would be comfortable" going into 2024 with the three QBs on today's roster.....cites devito coming a long way as the third stringer
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:28 pm : link
Pat Leonard
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I asked Joe Schoen about whether Washington QB Michael Penix Jr. acquitted himself medically, and if Giants are reticent to draft guys with injury histories.

Schoen said luckily, in Monday's medical meeting, the Giants did NOT lose many players off this year's draft board. He also said while he won't go into Penix Jr.'s specifics, how a player RESPONDS to injuries and surgeries is a major indicator, and Penix has been healthy recently
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:28 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - if you take a QB very low, the odds are you are hoping to get an inexpensive backup, given the price of their contract
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:29 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - it is a "good QB class...i think it is deep"....been fun getting to know these guys, like to do it every year....info can be important down the road
Major reason not to trade away next year's picks  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:29 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Schoen says they had 170 players on the board that went back to college.
That is an amazing number.
Schoen  
AcidTest : 4/18/2024 12:29 pm : link
said he's impressed with how many games some of these QBs have played. Bo Nix has played more games than any QB in the history of college football IIRC.
if you ask me  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:30 pm : link
he didn't give Daniel a ringing endorsement. He parsed his words.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:30 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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Joe Schoen said #Giants might be extra wary to stay away from players who are perceived injury risks because of what theyve been through injury-wise in past few years
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:30 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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Schoen said it's a good and deep QB class. "It's been really fun" getting to know them. There are only a few people on Earth who can play the position.
RE: RE: Schoen  
AcidTest : 4/18/2024 12:30 pm : link
In comment 16473748 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16473744 AcidTest said:


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just said he's comfortable going into the season with Jones, Lock, and DeVito. Cue the meltdown.



Sure. That's why six quarterbacks have visited.


Yeah, I don't believe it either. And it's what you'd expect him to say. But as JonC frequently says, follow their actions not words.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:31 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - it is a "good QB class...i think it is deep"....been fun getting to know these guys, like to do it every year....info can be important down the road
RE: if you ask me  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16473760 Eric from BBI said:
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he didn't give Daniel a ringing endorsement. He parsed his words.


Jack Stroud won’t take that well.
RE: if you ask me  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16473760 Eric from BBI said:
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he didn't give Daniel a ringing endorsement. He parsed his words.


Hopefully you are reading that correctly. How could anyone give DJ a ringing endorsement?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:31 pm : link
Dan Salomone
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Schoen is "still confident" in Daniel Jones and how he is wired. "I've got a good relationship with Daniel" and they communicate well.
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Sean : 4/18/2024 12:31 pm : link
"The expectation is for Daniel to be the starter." Based on Schoen's history here, expectations have often not panned out.
ummm.... what did you expect him say?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:32 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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#Giants Joe Schoen said ‘it was not true’ that he has buyer’s remorse on Daniel Jones contract extension
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ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16473764 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - it is a "good QB class...i think it is deep"....been fun getting to know these guys, like to do it every year....info can be important down the road


This is a great sales pitch for why the Giants spent so much time with the QBs. Actually makes sense also.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16473769 Sean said:
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"The expectation is for Daniel to be the starter." Based on Schoen's history here, expectations have often not panned out.



"Kadarius Toney isn't going anywhere."

"Wink Martindale is our defensive coordinator."
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 12:33 pm : link
Haha. As if Joe is going to publicly say, ‘Yeah. I fucked up that Jones contract.’
RE: ummm.... what did you expect him say?  
ZogZerg : 4/18/2024 12:33 pm : link
In comment 16473770 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
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#Giants Joe Schoen said ‘it was not true’ that he has buyer’s remorse on Daniel Jones contract extension


"I really fucked up that Jones contract...." :)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:36 pm : link
Dan Duggan
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It'll take some time to wade through Schoen's draft-related comments, but quick notes on current players:

• It does not sound like he has any intention of negotiating an extension with Darius Slayton, who is skipping voluntary workouts because he wants a raise.

• Still no word from Darren Waller, who continues to contemplate retirement. Schoen said the team has given no deadline for a decision.
all I'm going to say is  
Dave on the UWS : 4/18/2024 12:36 pm : link
I would really NOT want to play poker with this guy. He could pass a lie detector test!!
As Eric has said, don't listen to the words, pay attention to the actions.
if you've noticed  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:36 pm : link
they have used the exact same phrases when asked about Daniel Jones since the season ended. It's scripted.
RE: take note  
AROCK1000 : 4/18/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16473728 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
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#NYGiants Schoen - have gotten a lot of calls from people behind us to trade up to six...in fact, a surprising amount already

come to papa
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 12:38 pm : link
I’m still waiting for Darius to be like, ‘I was fooling with you guys.’ I honestly can’t believe he’s holding out. Darius Fucking Slayton…comical.
Well Schoen is probably a good poker player  
Maijay : 4/18/2024 12:39 pm : link
Basically he gave us a lot of GM speak which is good. My take away is he's open to any proposal . I couldn't get a read if next years number one is on the table.
The biggest takeaway from me  
Sean : 4/18/2024 12:39 pm : link
He did not sound concerned about moving future picks based on who could be available. He referenced a lot of players now staying in school based on NIL.
I don't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:41 pm : link
know why fans have said these pre-draft pressers are a waste of time. I got a lot out of this one, and last year's too.
Eric- I noticed that too  
Dave on the UWS : 4/18/2024 12:42 pm : link
It's not only scripted, its memorized. It will be their tact if they are unable to draft a QB (which is possible).
Then he can say "as I've told you guys, the expectation is Daniel will be the starter and we are comfortable with our QB room".
It's a predictable tact.
RE: I don't  
Chris684 : 4/18/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16473805 Eric from BBI said:
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know why fans have said these pre-draft pressers are a waste of time. I got a lot out of this one, and last year's too.


I was unable to listen but what are your highlights? QB in play? Trade down on the table? Trade up possibility starts at 3?
RE: Eric- I noticed that too  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16473806 Dave on the UWS said:
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It's not only scripted, its memorized. It will be their tact if they are unable to draft a QB (which is possible).
Then he can say "as I've told you guys, the expectation is Daniel will be the starter and we are comfortable with our QB room".
It's a predictable tact.


The fact that it is the same wording is telling (at least to me).

Kind of reminds me of that scene in Congress in "Lincoln"... "it's a lawyer's dodge!"
RE: I don't  
RHPeel : 4/18/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16473805 Eric from BBI said:
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know why fans have said these pre-draft pressers are a waste of time. I got a lot out of this one, and last year's too.


Daboll gives nothing in press conferences, but Schoen is quite informative, albeit measured and careful.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16473807 Chris684 said:
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In comment 16473805 Eric from BBI said:


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know why fans have said these pre-draft pressers are a waste of time. I got a lot out of this one, and last year's too.



I was unable to listen but what are your highlights? QB in play? Trade down on the table? Trade up possibility starts at 3?


I'll have the transcript up shortly. Key points are already posted in this thread.
I think  
Sammo85 : 4/18/2024 12:45 pm : link
Giants are taking a QB, but one shouldn't be surprised if it's Nix in an unusual trade down and take a different player (WR), then up from Round 2 scenario.

As for Waller, the fact Giants took hard looks at Sinnott and Theo Johnson has me wondering if they know which way he's leaning already and go there in Rounds 2-4.
What I got out of it...  
George from PA : 4/18/2024 12:52 pm : link
More holes than draft picks

They want the right QB....and willing to trade 2025 picks.

They are well prepared.....and all options are on table.

I came away, feeling the Giants are in good hands
RE: What I got out of it...  
Sean : 4/18/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16473825 George from PA said:
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More holes than draft picks

They want the right QB....and willing to trade 2025 picks.

They are well prepared.....and all options are on table.

I came away, feeling the Giants are in good hands

I get the same sense. I think trade down is a real possibility if they don't go QB.
RE: What I got out of it...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16473825 George from PA said:
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More holes than draft picks

They want the right QB....and willing to trade 2025 picks.

They are well prepared.....and all options are on table.

I came away, feeling the Giants are in good hands


Problem is these draft picks they have been selecting need to start performing. Some have, but some haven't (injuries have been a factor too).

I'd feel better if the results to date were better.

They also made a colossal screw up on the Jones/Barkley situations last offseason.
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