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The Dude : 4/18/2024 10:26 am
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Three teams in play for Aiyuk. Washington offered pick 35 for Aiyuk. Patriots offered pick 34. Giants are also in play. If Aiyuk is traded, expect it to be to NE, WAS or NYG #FTTB #HTTC #Aiyuk #NYGiants #ForeverNE


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#47 and a conditional 2025 pick  
Mike from Ohio : 4/18/2024 10:28 am : link
Funny how every team looking to get Aiyuk is also likely to end up drafting a QB at the top of the first.
If true, we would need a sweetener...  
Capt. Don : 4/18/2024 10:29 am : link
I hope that it isnt Jalin Hyatt
If they want Maye at 3  
Dave on the UWS : 4/18/2024 10:31 am : link
they have to lock down that trade up FIRST.
RE: If true, we would need a sweetener...  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:31 am : link
In comment 16473437 Capt. Don said:
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I hope that it isnt Jalin Hyatt


I've kept feeling like pick 47 and 2025 3rd that would become more would be a sweet spot
NE makes the most sense - they went hard for Ridley in FA  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 10:31 am : link
they have a high pick and they will likely have a rookie QB they want to give a weapon to as well.

many of those same things apply for WAS however they already have McLaurin and Dotson, so maybe a little less urgent for them.

is Slayton and #47 better than a pick 10-15 slots higher? Would WAS include Dotson or NE include Douglas to give SF a cheap replacement?

my guess is someone offers more for aiyuk than NYG, and my best guess is that ends up NE.
RE: If they want Maye at 3  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16473446 Dave on the UWS said:
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they have to lock down that trade up FIRST.


I'd imagine they have parameters in place already?
RE: #47 and a conditional 2025 pick  
UberAlias : 4/18/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16473430 Mike from Ohio said:
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Funny how every team looking to get Aiyuk is also likely to end up drafting a QB at the top of the first.
This is true. Probably teams considering how to land their young QB a #1 WR if not in round 1.
RE: If true, we would need a sweetener...  
logman : 4/18/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16473437 Capt. Don said:
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I hope that it isnt Jalin Hyatt


Swap disgruntled WRs, perhaps?
RE: NE makes the most sense - they went hard for Ridley in FA  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16473449 Eric on Li said:
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they have a high pick and they will likely have a rookie QB they want to give a weapon to as well.

many of those same things apply for WAS however they already have McLaurin and Dotson, so maybe a little less urgent for them.

is Slayton and #47 better than a pick 10-15 slots higher? Would WAS include Dotson or NE include Douglas to give SF a cheap replacement?

my guess is someone offers more for aiyuk than NYG, and my best guess is that ends up NE.


I bet the Commies end up making the best offer to pair Aiyuk with Jayden Daniels again.
RE: NE makes the most sense - they went hard for Ridley in FA  
robbieballs2003 : 4/18/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16473449 Eric on Li said:
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they have a high pick and they will likely have a rookie QB they want to give a weapon to as well.

many of those same things apply for WAS however they already have McLaurin and Dotson, so maybe a little less urgent for them.

is Slayton and #47 better than a pick 10-15 slots higher? Would WAS include Dotson or NE include Douglas to give SF a cheap replacement?

my guess is someone offers more for aiyuk than NYG, and my best guess is that ends up NE.


I guess this depends on where Aiyuk wants to go. He can say no to an extension with these teams. Yes, they can tag him after this year but I'm not sure a team wants to go through that. It is possible but I'd think an extension would have to be agreed to in principle before any trade.
Give them Slayton too, since he is holding out anyway  
PatersonPlank : 4/18/2024 10:36 am : link
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I'd wish  
The Dude : 4/18/2024 10:36 am : link
this happens during the draft, NYG moves back from 47 into the 50s to recoup something, anything, 4th rounder...and then do a deal.
If Schoen makes a deal here, I’ll be pretty upset  
The_Boss : 4/18/2024 10:36 am : link
I don’t get the urgency to get BA in here. Save the picks. College pumps out WR’s all the time.
RE: If Schoen makes a deal here, I’ll be pretty upset  
jvm52106 : 4/18/2024 10:39 am : link
In comment 16473465 The_Boss said:
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I don’t get the urgency to get BA in here. Save the picks. College pumps out WR’s all the time.


You add a VET WR when you have a YOUNG QB!
Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
clatterbuck : 4/18/2024 10:39 am : link
Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.
RE: RE: NE makes the most sense - they went hard for Ridley in FA  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 10:40 am : link
In comment 16473460 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16473449 Eric on Li said:


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they have a high pick and they will likely have a rookie QB they want to give a weapon to as well.

many of those same things apply for WAS however they already have McLaurin and Dotson, so maybe a little less urgent for them.

is Slayton and #47 better than a pick 10-15 slots higher? Would WAS include Dotson or NE include Douglas to give SF a cheap replacement?

my guess is someone offers more for aiyuk than NYG, and my best guess is that ends up NE.



I guess this depends on where Aiyuk wants to go. He can say no to an extension with these teams. Yes, they can tag him after this year but I'm not sure a team wants to go through that. It is possible but I'd think an extension would have to be agreed to in principle before any trade.


true and a good point, but my guess is he's willing to enthusiastically go to whichever team is willing to pay him the most. usually that team and that team willing to give up the most picks are one in the same (like cle/watson).
RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
UberAlias : 4/18/2024 10:41 am : link
In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:
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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.
A situation where they don't have a pick in the first or second round comes to mind.
RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
Eric on Li : 4/18/2024 10:41 am : link
In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:
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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.


there may be a lot of good ones but there arent going to be a lot of all pros (which aiyuk was last year).
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 10:45 am : link
I don’t get the ‘Well, you can get WRs in the draft’ mindset. They could be busts. Aiyuk has already shown he can play on this level. I will always take that over the possibility of someone being good.
RE: RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:46 am : link
In comment 16473479 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:


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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.

A situation where they don't have a pick in the first or second round comes to mind.


Or if you don't forsee pick 47 getting you more than a slot threat. Mhj, nabers, odunze, btj, Mitchell, worthy, Pearsall, Franklin, Mcconkey, leggette, and up to 4 or 5 more will likely be taken before our pick 47.
I think Washington  
Sammo85 : 4/18/2024 10:46 am : link
gets this done - they have several high 2s including theirs and the Bears, plus a couple 3s in back pocket.

Plenty of short term cap space, and adding Aiyuk with McLaurin gives a new young QB some veteran reliability.

Their OL situation is abysmal and likely to stay so short term - even if they add one or two in the 2-4th rounds.
RE: If Schoen makes a deal here, I’ll be pretty upset  
eric2425ny : 4/18/2024 10:47 am : link
In comment 16473465 The_Boss said:
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I don’t get the urgency to get BA in here. Save the picks. College pumps out WR’s all the time.


100% agree
I really don’t understand this  
bhill410 : 4/18/2024 10:48 am : link
You are giving up a second round pick and paying someone top 7 wr salary? 1) we don’t have that cap flexibility, 2) we have too many holes, and 3) I am not convinced Aiyuk would be worth that even if 1 and 2 weren’t an issue.
RE: I think Washington  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:48 am : link
In comment 16473491 Sammo85 said:
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gets this done - they have several high 2s including theirs and the Bears, plus a couple 3s in back pocket.

Plenty of short term cap space, and adding Aiyuk with McLaurin gives a new young QB some veteran reliability.

Their OL situation is abysmal and likely to stay so short term - even if they add one or two in the 2-4th rounds.


And don't forget, Daniels helped Aiyuk become a 1st rd pick after a great 2019 season at asu
RE: I really don’t understand this  
Darwinian : 4/18/2024 10:49 am : link
In comment 16473495 bhill410 said:
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You are giving up a second round pick and paying someone top 7 wr salary? 1) we don’t have that cap flexibility, 2) we have too many holes, and 3) I am not convinced Aiyuk would be worth that even if 1 and 2 weren’t an issue.


Have you watched the Giants lately?
RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
UConn4523 : 4/18/2024 10:50 am : link
In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:
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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.


So you can get a top QB and start him off with a top WR. You kinda have to pay for good players at some point and in this scenario the QB would be cheap so who cares about paying for a WR1 entering their prime.
Aiyuk is criminally underrated on here  
BigBlue7 : 4/18/2024 10:50 am : link
Not many WRs in football better than him. Doesn’t get his due because he’s sharing touches with Mccaffrey , Kittle, and Samuel
Aiyuk is criminally underrated on here  
BigBlue7 : 4/18/2024 10:51 am : link
Not many WRs in football better than him. Doesn’t get his due because he’s sharing touches with Mccaffrey , Kittle, and Samuel
RE: RE: I think Washington  
Sammo85 : 4/18/2024 10:52 am : link
In comment 16473497 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16473491 Sammo85 said:


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gets this done - they have several high 2s including theirs and the Bears, plus a couple 3s in back pocket.

Plenty of short term cap space, and adding Aiyuk with McLaurin gives a new young QB some veteran reliability.

Their OL situation is abysmal and likely to stay so short term - even if they add one or two in the 2-4th rounds.



And don't forget, Daniels helped Aiyuk become a 1st rd pick after a great 2019 season at asu



Also - don't forget Peters is GM with WSH - was part of braintrust drafting Aiyuk/Deebo/Kittle tandems.
What is Aiyuks 5-yd slant time  
PatersonPlank : 4/18/2024 10:53 am : link
That seems to be a key part of DJs passing arsenal
RE: …  
bw in dc : 4/18/2024 10:54 am : link
In comment 16473487 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t get the ‘Well, you can get WRs in the draft’ mindset. They could be busts. Aiyuk has already shown he can play on this level. I will always take that over the possibility of someone being good.


It's a valid point that Aiyuk is a proven asset.

However, Team Aiyuk is big game hunting for a massive deal. Which they should. And that means the contract will likely have an AAV of $30M.

To me, that tips this opportunity to a no-go for team with so many needs and a big TBD at QB. Aiyuk is a situation more aligned for a team looking for a final piece.

Thus, I'd rather risk the upside of college WR prospect, cheaper contract and more future cap flexibility.
RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
Big Rick in FL : 4/18/2024 10:54 am : link
In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:
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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.


Probably because Aiyuk is most likely a lot better than anything we could get in the 2nd round
bw in dc.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/18/2024 10:58 am : link
Fair counterpoint in terms of coin he wants.
RE: Give them Slayton too, since he is holding out anyway  
Essex : 4/18/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16473462 PatersonPlank said:
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Slayton would be a terrible fit for SF. They are rhythm and efficient offense without much down the field action. With Slayton's drops and inconsistency he could not be relied upon in that system to make them want him as any piece of a trade. the whole SF system is catch the ball and get extra yards--not Slayton's obvious strengths.
RE: RE: RE: I think Washington  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16473506 Sammo85 said:
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In comment 16473497 BleedBlue46 said:


QuoColin.



In comment 16473491 Sammo85 said:


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gets this done - they have several high 2s including theirs and the Bears, plus a couple 3s in back pocket.

Plenty of short term cap space, and adding Aiyuk with McLaurin gives a new young QB some veteran reliability.

Their OL situation is abysmal and likely to stay so short term - even if they add one or two in the 2-4th rounds.



And don't forget, Daniels helped Aiyuk become a 1st rd pick after a great 2019 season at asu




Also - don't forget Peters is GM with WSH - was part of braintrust drafting Aiyuk/Deebo/Kittle tandems.


Yep, ever since Aiyuk trade possibility was first mentioned I thought they would get him for Daniels. Smart move, sadly. People hear complaining about Aiyuk not making pro Bowls haha.

The sacrifice for them doing this is that they will surely miss out on OL guys that will turn into great players. Not all of them will, but there are a lot of promising options at the beginning of rd2: Kingsley, Morgan, Barton, just to name a few.
What would it take  
Breeze_94 : 4/18/2024 11:00 am : link
To get Aiyuk + trade up for Maye.

Could Giants offer 25’ first to get up to 3? Then trade #47 and 2025 3rd for Aiyuk?

On one hand, that would leave them with no draft capital. On the other hand, they’d have a franchise QB, franchise LT, WR1…and a CB1 + 2 edge rushers, and Dex anchoring the IDL…so they’d have all of the premium positions addressed.

I think I feel better about Maye + Aiyuk than I do about Nabers + 2025 first + pick 47 + Jones.. Nabers might have more upside, but Aiyuk is a proven commodity and Maye is IMO an elite QB prospect.
RE: RE: …  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 11:01 am : link
In comment 16473510 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16473487 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I don’t get the ‘Well, you can get WRs in the draft’ mindset. They could be busts. Aiyuk has already shown he can play on this level. I will always take that over the possibility of someone being good.



It's a valid point that Aiyuk is a proven asset.

However, Team Aiyuk is big game hunting for a massive deal. Which they should. And that means the contract will likely have an AAV of $30M.

To me, that tips this opportunity to a no-go for team with so many needs and a big TBD at QB. Aiyuk is a situation more aligned for a team looking for a final piece.

Thus, I'd rather risk the upside of college WR prospect, cheaper contract and more future cap flexibility.


Enjoy playing against the ASU buddies Aiyuk and Jayden Daniels twice a year then. Sure will be fun! :)
RE: What would it take  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 11:03 am : link
In comment 16473522 Breeze_94 said:
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To get Aiyuk + trade up for Maye.

Could Giants offer 25’ first to get up to 3? Then trade #47 and 2025 3rd for Aiyuk?

On one hand, that would leave them with no draft capital. On the other hand, they’d have a franchise QB, franchise LT, WR1…and a CB1 + 2 edge rushers, and Dex anchoring the IDL…so they’d have all of the premium positions addressed.

I think I feel better about Maye + Aiyuk than I do about Nabers + 2025 first + pick 47 + Jones.. Nabers might have more upside, but Aiyuk is a proven commodity and Maye is IMO an elite QB prospect.


A promising top qb prospect, not a franchise QB until he proves to be one. I get your point though.

We could get Maye and Aiyuk for pick 6, 47, 2025 1st, 2nd and 3rd or so. Maybe sub KT for one of the picks in trade up for Maye.
I am no Daniel Jones apologist  
Mike from Ohio : 4/18/2024 11:03 am : link
but while I think he is the author of most of his own struggles, it is true that the Giants did him few favors with what they put around him (aside from Barkley).

If you bring in a top QB prospect, what better way is there to help him succeed other than two things - build him a decent line and get him a proven weapon at receiver?

College is pumping out a ton of cost controlled WRs, but it will take a you a couple of year to determine if they are the goods or not. Take the money you save on the QB and give him what he needs to succeed by paying extra to remove the uncertainty a rookie WR introduces.
Don’t love this. High priced WR.  
BillT : 4/18/2024 11:05 am : link
But have to see the results of Schoen’s whole plan to really know if it’s a smart move.
RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
Optimus-NY : 4/18/2024 11:06 am : link
In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:
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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.


Exactly
RE: …  
ajr2456 : 4/18/2024 11:07 am : link
In comment 16473487 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t get the ‘Well, you can get WRs in the draft’ mindset. They could be busts. Aiyuk has already shown he can play on this level. I will always take that over the possibility of someone being good.


Reminds me of people complaining about the Knicks trading picks to clear cap space for Brunson
I dont see them beating the Wash or Pats deals  
blueblood : 4/18/2024 11:07 am : link
they should inquire obviously.
RE: RE: Don't Know Why You'd Pay  
BleedBlue46 : 4/18/2024 11:08 am : link
In comment 16473532 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16473474 clatterbuck said:


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Aiyuk instead of drafting a cost-controlled receiver. We all know there a lot of good ones in this draft.



Exactly


At pick 47 we are unlikely to have any outside threat receiver options. 10-15 will be gone before out pick. Plus, they are rookies and wouldn't provide the security blanket for a rookie qb.
Can BBI Rickey  
Saos1n : 4/18/2024 11:30 am : link
Confirm or deny the Twitter Rickey?

I know he debunked a number of the alt twitter accounts yesterday
RE: NE makes the most sense - they went hard for Ridley in FA  
OBJ_AllDay : 4/18/2024 11:32 am : link
In comment 16473449 Eric on Li said:
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they have a high pick and they will likely have a rookie QB they want to give a weapon to as well.

many of those same things apply for WAS however they already have McLaurin and Dotson, so maybe a little less urgent for them.

is Slayton and #47 better than a pick 10-15 slots higher? Would WAS include Dotson or NE include Douglas to give SF a cheap replacement?

my guess is someone offers more for aiyuk than NYG, and my best guess is that ends up NE.


Dotson stinks.
This would be madness for us  
Festina Lente : 4/18/2024 11:38 am : link
Draft the young cost controlled wide reciever at a position that is consistently high quality every year in the draft.
RE: Can BBI Rickey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/18/2024 11:39 am : link
In comment 16473588 Saos1n said:
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Confirm or deny the Twitter Rickey?

I know he debunked a number of the alt twitter accounts yesterday


He already did. He started a thread this morning on it.
RE: RE: Can BBI Rickey  
bigblue5611 : 4/18/2024 11:43 am : link
In comment 16473605 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16473588 Saos1n said:


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Confirm or deny the Twitter Rickey?

I know he debunked a number of the alt twitter accounts yesterday



He already did. He started a thread this morning on it.


The one from yesterday? Or is there one from this morning that I'm not seeing?
If a QB falls to 3  
Biteymax22 : 4/18/2024 11:43 am : link
I’d give our 2nd and 3rd for Aiyuk with this logic.

You’d turn 2 2nds and a 3rd into Burns/Aiyuk, and wash the salary via having a QB on a rookie contract (Jones gets cut next year).

The reality is you’re not getting Aiyuk/Burns level players out of 2 2nds and a 3rd. And I’m someone that LOVES hanging on to picks…
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