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UConn4523 : 4/18/2024 8:39 pm
for the few who care, here’s the latest.

Clingan declared for the draft, likely top 10 pick
Stephon Castle is expected to declare soon, possible top 5 pick
Alex Karaban declared today, early 2nd rounder is likely
Newton has no more eligibility, late 1st/early 2nd rounder
Spencer has no more eligibility, might get drafted at the end of round 2
No word yet on Diarra but he has 1 more year of eligibility

Center Tarris Reed from Michigan transferred to UConn, should be our starting Center splitting time with Samson Johnson.
Was hoping to keep Karaban  
JB_in_DC : 4/18/2024 8:48 pm : link
Three peat will be tough
I really felt like Karaban needed another year  
illmatic : 4/18/2024 9:08 pm : link
Plus it would have been his chance to be the man and become more of a scorer. Would be nice to see him add a little weight and use his size to his advantage more too. But we’ll see what happens.
Karaban  
redwhiteandbigblue : 4/18/2024 9:12 pm : link
Retained his college eligibility so its not a definite he goes to NBA.
I don’t see it with Clingan  
ajr2456 : 4/18/2024 9:19 pm : link
At the next level
RE: I don’t see it with Clingan  
UConn4523 : 4/18/2024 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16474600 ajr2456 said:
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At the next level


Not many his size can move the way he does. If he’s a plus defender with a bit of scoring that’s a valuable player. I think he has more upside than Edey who seems way too slow for the NBA.
kinda with ajr does he have grit?  
ColHowPepper : 4/18/2024 9:43 pm : link
maybe Samson stays out of foul trouble, he’s got quicks and length
RE: I don’t see it with Clingan  
uconngiant : 4/18/2024 11:18 pm : link
In comment 16474600 ajr2456 said:
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At the next level


His size, speed, and ability to pass will be a great help to him at the next level. He has grown in basketball terms by leaps and bounds. He will end up a top 7 pick this year.
Don't underestimate Clingan's value  
Southern Man : 4/18/2024 11:26 pm : link
UConn might have won without him, maybe, but his defensive abilities, especially in drop-down, made a lot of teams one-dimensional and enabled a lot of runs. His offensive game will get more refined and he reportedly has a decent 3 point shot and he's only 20.

He's also a tough kid who had an old-fashioned basketball journey; star player on his (successful) local HS BB team, no prep. Won all that he could for UConn. He's got the grit. Wish him and all the players moving on the best of luck. Such a fun team to watch.
Clingan definitely has a role  
JT039 : 4/19/2024 7:13 am : link
Elite rim defenders are always coveted. Need to get bigger - which he will.

Offensively - well that’s the problem. He’s pretty coordinated so there’s a good chance he can develop a jumper.

I would take him around 12-15 but the fact he’s being considered top 3 is where I see the problem. But that’s not his fault. I just think this is a really really poor class.
The problem I see with Clingan  
ajr2456 : 4/19/2024 7:54 am : link
Is his offensive game at the next level. I don’t think there is going to be enough there to warrant a top 10 selection, and I don’t think he’s tough enough on the defensive end to play a Mitch Robinson role.

Will he stick in the league? Probably, he’s 7’2 and does move fairly well for his size. Is he a future all star like you want from a top 10 pick? I don’t think so. I think he’s a 15-20 min role player.
I think Clingan has a good amount of toughness, actually  
Heisenberg : 4/19/2024 8:12 am : link
He's just 20 and will continue to fill out his frame. Remember Mitch when he was drafted at 20? He was pushed around all over the place.

He moves well, plays under control on defense and has a really good feel for rim protection - compare him to what we see from Sims who had zero feel when he entered the league. And DC is highly competitive and fucking loves to play. His offensive game is rough now and his FT and shooting need work. But he's a grinder who loves basketball. Fucking Thibs would love to get his hands on him.

I think he has big time rim protection potential and that will keep him in the league. Definitely will struggle with fouls early on, like Mitch did.
RE: The problem I see with Clingan  
aimrocky : 4/19/2024 8:16 am : link
In comment 16474820 ajr2456 said:
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Is his offensive game at the next level. I don’t think there is going to be enough there to warrant a top 10 selection, and I don’t think he’s tough enough on the defensive end to play a Mitch Robinson role.

Will he stick in the league? Probably, he’s 7’2 and does move fairly well for his size. Is he a future all star like you want from a top 10 pick? I don’t think so. I think he’s a 15-20 min role player.


I think the same thing. I think in a normal draft, he's perfect after say the 15th pick, but I wouldn't take him in the lottery. I heard this is a weak draft, though so I suppose timing is everything.
I wanted Karaban to come back and work on is offensive game.  
Heisenberg : 4/19/2024 8:18 am : link
I thought if he did, he could get into the first round, with a game kinda like a less douchy Jaime Jacquez jr

I understand Castle going but man, he has no definable offensive game at this point. Profiles as a very good and switchable defensive player though. I think he will struggle to contribute early in the league because his offense will be bad. He would really have been helped by coming back and taking a bunch of the shots that Newton and Spencer took and gone into next year with a good idea who he is offensively.
RE: I think Clingan has a good amount of toughness, actually  
ajr2456 : 4/19/2024 8:32 am : link
In comment 16474840 Heisenberg said:
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He's just 20 and will continue to fill out his frame. Remember Mitch when he was drafted at 20? He was pushed around all over the place.

He moves well, plays under control on defense and has a really good feel for rim protection - compare him to what we see from Sims who had zero feel when he entered the league. And DC is highly competitive and fucking loves to play. His offensive game is rough now and his FT and shooting need work. But he's a grinder who loves basketball. Fucking Thibs would love to get his hands on him.

I think he has big time rim protection potential and that will keep him in the league. Definitely will struggle with fouls early on, like Mitch did.


Have to remember though, he’s not playing against NBA size and offensive talent night in and night out in college. I don’t see elite rim protection from him in the NBA.
I don’t think Clingan goes top 3  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 8:51 am : link
My guess is 7-10. That said I hope he goes to the Spurs, would be awesome watching him play with Wemby. The new twin towers.
RE: RE: I think Clingan has a good amount of toughness, actually  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 9:00 am : link
In comment 16474868 ajr2456 said:
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He's just 20 and will continue to fill out his frame. Remember Mitch when he was drafted at 20? He was pushed around all over the place.

He moves well, plays under control on defense and has a really good feel for rim protection - compare him to what we see from Sims who had zero feel when he entered the league. And DC is highly competitive and fucking loves to play. His offensive game is rough now and his FT and shooting need work. But he's a grinder who loves basketball. Fucking Thibs would love to get his hands on him.

I think he has big time rim protection potential and that will keep him in the league. Definitely will struggle with fouls early on, like Mitch did.



Have to remember though, he’s not playing against NBA size and offensive talent night in and night out in college. I don’t see elite rim protection from him in the NBA.


Yeah but that’s every player coming out. And he had to hold back a lot due to foul trouble and us having a decent backup center, along with blowing teams out, so his minutes were low. He’s a 3/3.5 block per game player with 25/27 minutes in college. Give him 6 fouls and I like his odds to take the rim protection to the next level. Plus, he can move, this isn’t Thabeet.
Yes, like any college player, it's projection with Clingan  
Heisenberg : 4/19/2024 9:03 am : link
It's projection with all these guys.
I was hoping Karaban  
beatrixkiddo : 4/19/2024 9:07 am : link
Would return and be the main vet here to lead the next group, he was very hot and cold offensively this year, could have improved his game more and been a sure fire 1st rounder next year in that case.

I’ll keep my fingers crossed that Castle decides to stay another year, although it’s unlikely with being a top 5 pick. I know he really values UConn and their coaching, he may decide to stay and have Hurley build him into a star ready for the next level. He has a lot offensively he needs to works on which could stunt his development at next level. We’ll see.

Obviously they will take a big step back next year, but I still see them as one of the top teams in the Big East. Marquette and Creighton losing a ton of guys too so will be interesting to see the next wave of young guys come in.
He was also asked to do a ton in his  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 9:09 am : link
22 minutes per game. Look at the tournament run, he completely altered every opposing gameplan with his ability to defend the rim and the mid range players. They decided to switch it up and let Edey get his and Clingan wasn’t even allowed to touch him, if he was Edey would have scored 25 and we would have won by 30 again.

I don’t think Clingan is going to be a great NBA player but he has really nice upside, is really young, and is a completely different player than he was in 2022/23. Speaks to his work ethic and how well he takes coaching. Popovich would be great for him IMO.
RE: He was also asked to do a ton in his  
beatrixkiddo : 4/19/2024 9:15 am : link
In comment 16474950 UConn4523 said:
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22 minutes per game. Look at the tournament run, he completely altered every opposing gameplan with his ability to defend the rim and the mid range players. They decided to switch it up and let Edey get his and Clingan wasn’t even allowed to touch him, if he was Edey would have scored 25 and we would have won by 30 again.

I don’t think Clingan is going to be a great NBA player but he has really nice upside, is really young, and is a completely different player than he was in 2022/23. Speaks to his work ethic and how well he takes coaching. Popovich would be great for him IMO.


Clingan’s growth from a year ago is amazing, it’s easy to see him with so much more untapped upside over the next couple years as he maxes out and refines his game. Certainly more upside than a C like Edey who has already peaked. Clingan has not peaked yet. I don’t see a star, but he can be a very valuable weapon and player at the next level if coached right.
Castle delcares  
aimrocky : 4/19/2024 10:25 am : link
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Just saw this, it’s a couple weeksmold  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 10:28 am : link
and while I don’t really believe it, the clips show how agile he is. Clingan single handedly beat Illinois and kept up with their guards inside the arc.
Clingan - ( New Window )
Also just read the BE is removing Depaul  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 10:47 am : link
and adding Gonzaga, lol. Technically a good move but Big East out in Spokane? Lol
RE: Also just read the BE is removing Depaul  
Heisenberg : 4/19/2024 11:10 am : link
In comment 16475103 UConn4523 said:
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and adding Gonzaga, lol. Technically a good move but Big East out in Spokane? Lol


Love this, honestly
RE: RE: Also just read the BE is removing Depaul  
beatrixkiddo : 4/19/2024 11:12 am : link
In comment 16475135 Heisenberg said:
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and adding Gonzaga, lol. Technically a good move but Big East out in Spokane? Lol



Love this, honestly


Yeah just makes the conference better. It is weird but they already have Creighton in out in Nebraska so…ha.
RE: Castle delcares  
bw in dc : 4/19/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16475067 aimrocky said:
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If this draft wasn't so historically bad, I wonder if Castle would have stayed in Storrs. Another year crafting his skills and improving his production probably gets Castle top 3-5 in 2025.
Karaban  
Mondo : 4/19/2024 11:14 am : link
Leaving is a huge mistake. He could be a 1st rounder next year.
RE: RE: Castle delcares  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 11:16 am : link
In comment 16475140 bw in dc said:
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If this draft wasn't so historically bad, I wonder if Castle would have stayed in Storrs. Another year crafting his skills and improving his production probably gets Castle top 3-5 in 2025.


He’s likely top 5 now. Staying would have been dumb IMO.
RE: Karaban  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 11:23 am : link
In comment 16475141 Mondo said:
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Leaving is a huge mistake. He could be a 1st rounder next year.


He may be a late first already. That’s basically $12m+ contract. 10 picks earlier is $15m+. Austin Jackson at 36 overall got a $7m contract. I don’t think it’s a mistake at all as I I don’t think theres that much upside to staying, maybe 10/15 slots. And if he gets injured or plateaus, then he falls. Lottery pick would be the only reason to return and that doesn’t seem likely.
RE: RE: RE: Castle delcares  
bw in dc : 4/19/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16475143 UConn4523 said:
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He’s likely top 5 now. Staying would have been dumb IMO.


If that's right, then I am wrong. He should go.

But I wouldn't touch such an unfinished product in the top 15.
He’s got elite measurable and defensive capabilities  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 12:48 pm : link
can create his own shot and get to the rim. Thats absolutely worth a top 15 pick. Has a lot of work to do on his shot. Ausur Thompson went 5 overall last year, similar player IMO, but Castle has higher level production coming in and Hurley has given a glowing endorsement of his upbringing, work ethic, and unselfish nature. Also talked about how NBA scouts come to practice to see what he can do which doesn’t show up in games since UConn doesn’t run that type of offense.
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