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NFT: NHL Playoff Thread and Misc Hockey - All Teams Discussion

pjcas18 : 4/19/2024 7:59 am
Welcome to the most exciting event in sports and the hardest trophy to win. The NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. I am sure NYR fans and NYI fans probably have game threads, but this thread for all hockey discussion. Including the playoffs, the U18s, World Championships, awards, predictions and draft lottery. Playoffs start Saturday with all series beginning either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Most series are every other day with an occasional 2nd day for travel or other reasons. Schedule in link.

The playoff match ups are finally set with LAK win (and LVG loss).

Here they are:
East
NYR* (1M) vs WAS (WC2) (Starts Sunday)
CAR (2M) vs NYI (3M) (Starts Saturday)
FLA (1A) vs TBL (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
BOS (2A) vs TOR (3A) (Starts Saturday)

West
DAL (1C) vs LVG (WC2) (Starts Monday)
WIN (2C) vs COL (3C) (Starts Sunday)
VAN (1P) vs NSH (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
EDM (2P) vs LAK (3P) (Starts Monday)

* President's Trophy Winner

My Predictions:
NYR in 5
CAR in 6
FLA in 6
BOS in 7

DAL in 6
COL in 7
VAN in 5
EDM in 7

What am I rooting for? Game 7's and OT's.

On the other end? The lottery teams will be (order determined at draft lottery which is usually during the playoffs):

32. SJS
31. CHI
30. ANA
29. CBJ
28. MTL
27. ARI/UTA
26. OTT
25. SEA
24. CAL
23. NJD
22. BUF
21. PHI
20. MIN
19. PIT
18. DET
17. STL
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RE: RE: My prediction  
pjcas18 : 5/17/2024 10:38 pm : link
In comment 16518732 Rob in Rockaway said:
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In comment 16518658 pjcas18 said:


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NYR in 5

other predictions
Rangers fans complain incessantly about Tkachuk call him trash, dirty and a POS

Rangers fans complain incessantly about the refs

Rangers fans complain incessantly about Trouba, lol

Rangers fans complain about Lavy after 1 bad shift or period



My prediction: Habs fan trolls Ranger fans who behave pretty similarly to every fan base in every sport around the country.


prediction: accurate. lol

but hopefully you can admit after last nights debacle of a game thread, some of those fans deserve it.
RE: RE: RE: My prediction  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/17/2024 10:45 pm : link
In comment 16518735 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16518732 Rob in Rockaway said:


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In comment 16518658 pjcas18 said:


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NYR in 5

other predictions
Rangers fans complain incessantly about Tkachuk call him trash, dirty and a POS

Rangers fans complain incessantly about the refs

Rangers fans complain incessantly about Trouba, lol

Rangers fans complain about Lavy after 1 bad shift or period



My prediction: Habs fan trolls Ranger fans who behave pretty similarly to every fan base in every sport around the country.



prediction: accurate. lol

but hopefully you can admit after last nights debacle of a game thread, some of those fans deserve it.


Correct: I purposefully didn't post the thoughts I was having entering the 3rd period because I knew I was not in a sound mind. I was mentally rebuilding the team for next year after a 3rd straight playoff collapse.
OT in Denver  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2024 12:36 am : link
Lots of action and pace but few shots - 21 and 23
Colorado gets a massive break  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2024 1:12 am : link
What would have been a series winning goal gets waved off due to a questionable goalie interference call
After the regular season  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 9:45 am : link
Zach Parise announced his retirement when the Av's playoff run ends.

Good career, probably has a shot at US Hockey Hall of Fame.

Oettinger playing terrific in goal for Stars  
Rick in Dallas : 5/18/2024 10:34 am : link
Only 24 and stands massive in goal at 6’6”. His quickness got that size is surprising
Tanev was a great pickup at trade line.
I think they are the favorites to make the finals out of the West.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2024 11:18 am : link
I think the winner of NYR/FL wins the Cup. I'm terrified of this series.
One game tonight  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 1:31 pm : link
possible handshakes for another game 6 road team.

EDM vs VAN @ 8:00 VAN leads 3-2

I don't think McDavid is why his team loses, obviously, but I also think at some point the longer he maintains "best player in the game" title he will get some blame (and probably should). I have said before it's "criminal" the way his GM's (multiple) have treated goalie in his tenure.

Is there any scenario McDavid is traded? Gretzky was the same age as McDavid is now (27) when he was traded from EDM to LAK.

Mike Sullivan  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 2:19 pm : link
named USA head coach for 4 nations and Olympics.

I was expecting/hoping he or Lavy would be the USA coach.
RE: One game tonight  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2024 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16519014 pjcas18 said:
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possible handshakes for another game 6 road team.

EDM vs VAN @ 8:00 VAN leads 3-2

I don't think McDavid is why his team loses, obviously, but I also think at some point the longer he maintains "best player in the game" title he will get some blame (and probably should). I have said before it's "criminal" the way his GM's (multiple) have treated goalie in his tenure.

Is there any scenario McDavid is traded? Gretzky was the same age as McDavid is now (27) when he was traded from EDM to LAK.


Oilers have totally failed McDavid. It's pathetic. I thought he'd ask for a trade last season.
He's got two more years after this.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2024 2:27 pm : link
Perfect time to trade him if he indicates he won't stay.
Out of 26  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 2:48 pm : link
goalies to play in the playoffs, only Connor Hellebuyck (WTF?) had a worse performance than Stuart Skinner.

So, you know Hellebuyck is a good goalie and wonder what happened there, but this was expected from Skinner.

Skinner had -4.6 goals saved above expected.

Of all goalies in the playoffs to get more than 2 starts Skinner was 4th worst in save % on unblocked shots.

this was all predictable.

I wonder if McDavid is too proud to ask for a trade. Maybe he views it as a sign of personal failure, but it's clear for whatever reason no one in EDM wants to invest in a goalie.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/18/2024 3:05 pm : link
The defense is also pretty bad.

Have there been good options for them to upgrade? Maybe Georgiev?
RE: ....  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 3:15 pm : link
In comment 16519085 BrettNYG10 said:
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The defense is also pretty bad.

Have there been good options for them to upgrade? Maybe Georgiev?


Just this past deadline you had Ullmark. BOS was allegedly shopping him.

Swayman looks legit IMO so I could buy he was available.

Skinner  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 6:49 pm : link
in net for EDM. I mean its really a tallest midget contest I guess. Feel bad for Knoblauch. Seems like he righted the ship there to an extent, but here he is in game 6 of the conference semifinals, do or die game, and he's got to pick the better of two sieves.

Here is hoping Skinner can be the guy who has flashed occasionally and not the guy who has flopped more consistently and at least force a game 7. As fans we have earned this.
Barkov wins selke  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 8:04 pm : link
it's his 2nd time winning.

No clue how Crosby wasn't a finalist. His 200 foot game kept PIT afloat as long as they were afloat, but no issue with Barkov winning. He is incredible.
Another tight one for VAN/EDM  
schabadoo : 5/18/2024 9:20 pm : link
And another goalie interference.
Hyman  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 9:29 pm : link
breaks out of his slump and puts EDM up 2-1
.  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 9:34 pm : link
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EDM  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2024 9:35 pm : link
has VAN on their heels. Bouchard bomb puts EDM up 3-1.
EDM forces game 7  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2024 9:12 am : link


tonight is the first time in a month there are no NHL games.

but...USA vs Kazakhstan this morning at 10:20 ET.

through 5 or 6 games, Sweden is the only perfect team (5-0-0-0) for 15 points.

If USA beats Kazakhstan in regulation, as expected (though they are no pushover they have been close with everyone except Germany), they would leapfrog Germany into 2nd place in Group B (depending what Slovakia does).

Slovakia plays Latvia at 2:20 ET.

USA finishes group play with a game vs Latvia on Tues at 10:20 ET.
So much for this  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2024 2:53 pm : link
"...though they are no pushover.."

USA won 10-1.

Johnny Hockey passes Patrick Kane for the most World Championship points and assists for an American player (43 points and 30 assists)

Brock Nelson tied Bruce Mather and Buzz Johnson (who?) for most World Championship goals for an American player (19)

In the 10-1 game

Matt Boldy had 6 points (2G/4A)
Zach Werenski had 3 points (3A)
Gaudreau had 5 points (1G/4A)
Brady Tkachuk had 4 points (3G/1A)

Not sure what this is all about  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2024 6:48 pm : link
but this is not good for VAN.

Irfaan Gaffar
@irfgaffar
Brock Boeser will not be available for the Canucks in game seven on Monday. If they advance, his status moving forward is unclear.
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RE: Not sure what this is all about  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2024 6:49 pm : link
In comment 16520008 pjcas18 said:
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but this is not good for VAN.

Irfaan Gaffar
@irfgaffar
Brock Boeser will not be available for the Canucks in game seven on Monday. If they advance, his status moving forward is unclear.
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Sounds like blood clotting issues.
Sweden clinches  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 1:42 pm : link
Group B, and remains perfect in group play, 6 games, 18 points. Only perfect team in either group.

Canada would be but they have an OTW vs Austria (so 6 games, 17 points).

Canada, however, can be leapfrogged by Czechia tomorrow if
Czechia beats them in regulation. Czechia has quite a few NHLers (Gudas, Palat, Kase, Kubalik, recent adds: Pastrnak, Zacha and Necas, etc.) it's what is so great about this tournament. The team you end with may not be the one you begin with based on who gets knocked out of the NHL playoffs and when.

Only Great Britain has 0 points with one game left (today vs Austria).

USA needs two points vs Latvia tomorrow to secure 2nd place in Group B (so any type of win).


Oh  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 2:39 pm : link
and in case anyone wasn't aware....

Game 7 tonight for the final spot in the conference finals.

VAN vs EDM @ 9:00, this is where heroes are made.

No Boeser for VAN, hope they can avoid the letdown that COL had when they lost Nichushkin

ECF starts Wednesday and WCF starts Thursday

no extra days off in either, so at least starting Wednesday - 8 days in a row we get hockey.
.  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
For Game 7:

Canucks coach Rick Tocchet says Arturs Silovs starts...indicates Lafferty/Mikheyev replace Boeser/Podkolzin.

Oilers coach Kris Knoblauch expecting no changes. Said yesterday Adam Henrique would not play.
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.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2024 2:51 pm : link
I think DAL smokes whoever wins this series.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 4:42 pm : link
In comment 16520519 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think DAL smokes whoever wins this series.


Agree.

I am pulling for EDM though. Seeing McDavid in a SCF is overdue. I think a Rangers vs Oilers cup finals would set records. A Canadian team, the best player in the league and an original 6 team from a major US market who hasn't won a cup in 30 years. I feel like the league wants that (or should).
Sounds like Demko  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 4:55 pm : link
is ready, but Tocchet sticking with Silovs.

Can't say I blame him. Last year Monty put a cold Swayman in for game 7 vs FLA after riding Ullmark all series and it didn't work out, but man Demko was so locked in earlier this year I think he would have won Vezina easily if he had stayed healthy.

this will be one of those things that gets second guessed all summer if VAN loses.
RE: RE: .....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2024 5:13 pm : link
In comment 16520616 pjcas18 said:
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I think DAL smokes whoever wins this series.



Agree.

I am pulling for EDM though. Seeing McDavid in a SCF is overdue. I think a Rangers vs Oilers cup finals would set records. A Canadian team, the best player in the league and an original 6 team from a major US market who hasn't won a cup in 30 years. I feel like the league wants that (or should).


I think NYR/FL beats EDM, so I'm rooting for it as well.

Hopefully the NHL rigs it in our favor like the Laf lottery.
RE: Sounds like Demko  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/20/2024 8:46 pm : link
In comment 16520634 pjcas18 said:
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this will be one of those things that gets second guessed all summer if VAN loses.


There's no way he's in his prior form. , Putting a compromised goalie into a game 7 after a multi-week layoff seems negligent.
RE: RE: Sounds like Demko  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16520811 Diversify yo bonds said:
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this will be one of those things that gets second guessed all summer if VAN loses.



There's no way he's in his prior form. , Putting a compromised goalie into a game 7 after a multi-week layoff seems negligent.


Would it? i don't know, maybe you're right, but he's been practicing.

I know it's not 100% apples to apples with Swayman last year and it didn't end well, but it's kind of a precedent IMO - Swayman went 17 days in between starts (and had 1 start in 21 says) and started game 7 last year vs FLA.

With Demko it's been 29 days so longer for sure. I just don't know.
Demko, you're no Silovs  
ColHowPepper : 5/20/2024 10:07 pm : link
Interesting, fun game, EDM flying a bit but no leaks in goal. JT Miller continues to amaze, don't see him that often these years, but I don't remember him in these parts being nearly as physical on the rush or on the forecheck as now. He was such a gifted passer, as now.

Brett, I agree too... missed you boys last week and I missed some fun
1st goal  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 10:13 pm : link
wins 75% of the time in game 7 as Cody Ceci opens the scoring. Off a face off.
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like Demko  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/20/2024 10:15 pm : link
In comment 16520922 pjcas18 said:
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With Demko it's been 29 days so longer for sure. I just don't know.


Yes he's been practicing, which is why I say he's compromised. They know Demko better than anyone. Every decision maker in the organization is studying every movement. If he looked like himself he'd be in.

Too much EDM  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 10:21 pm : link
Bouch bomb, 2-0 EDM
Six mins into the second period  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2024 10:22 pm : link
Shots are 23-4 Edmonton. Yikes
Human enabled that goal  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/20/2024 10:24 pm : link
Great positioning on the screen

Bouchard has that knack
Hyman  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/20/2024 10:24 pm : link
Lol
RE: Hyman  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16520943 Diversify yo bonds said:
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Lol


looked like he may have tipped that.
RNH  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 10:44 pm : link
on the PP. 3-0
RE: Oh  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/20/2024 10:45 pm : link
In comment 16520498 pjcas18 said:
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No Boeser for VAN, hope they can avoid the letdown that COL had when they lost Nichushkin


Narrator: ".. they did not avoid the letdown"
Not enough talk about Knoblauch  
ColHowPepper : 5/20/2024 10:48 pm : link
job he's done with this team, all the talent in the world and nearly comatose.
Think it was DQ's last year, can't rec recall reason but K stepped in and team immediately went on a nice win streak
Rangers vs Tampa in 2015  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2024 11:23 pm : link
is the only game 7 home performance I can think of as lifeless as this one
Some life in VAN  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 11:29 pm : link
Garland scores off the McLeod turnover.
3-2  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 11:36 pm : link
Come on OT! Hopefully
Damn  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2024 11:44 pm : link
Oh well. Fun ending.
boys  
RasputinPrime : 5/20/2024 11:58 pm : link
are going to need to get healthy in a minute to play Dallas.
Dallas in 5 games over Oilers  
Rick in Dallas : 5/21/2024 5:18 am : link
Stars are a deeper team all around and so much better in goal than Oilers .
I have been amazed at how well Jamie Benn has played for Stars this season.
Tanev addition at trade deadline was a huge addition to blue line.

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