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NFT: NHL Playoff Thread and Misc Hockey - All Teams Discussion

pjcas18 : 4/19/2024 7:59 am
Welcome to the most exciting event in sports and the hardest trophy to win. The NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. I am sure NYR fans and NYI fans probably have game threads, but this thread for all hockey discussion. Including the playoffs, the U18s, World Championships, awards, predictions and draft lottery. Playoffs start Saturday with all series beginning either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Most series are every other day with an occasional 2nd day for travel or other reasons. Schedule in link.

The playoff match ups are finally set with LAK win (and LVG loss).

Here they are:
East
NYR* (1M) vs WAS (WC2) (Starts Sunday)
CAR (2M) vs NYI (3M) (Starts Saturday)
FLA (1A) vs TBL (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
BOS (2A) vs TOR (3A) (Starts Saturday)

West
DAL (1C) vs LVG (WC2) (Starts Monday)
WIN (2C) vs COL (3C) (Starts Sunday)
VAN (1P) vs NSH (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
EDM (2P) vs LAK (3P) (Starts Monday)

* President's Trophy Winner

My Predictions:
NYR in 5
CAR in 6
FLA in 6
BOS in 7

DAL in 6
COL in 7
VAN in 5
EDM in 7

What am I rooting for? Game 7's and OT's.

On the other end? The lottery teams will be (order determined at draft lottery which is usually during the playoffs):

32. SJS
31. CHI
30. ANA
29. CBJ
28. MTL
27. ARI/UTA
26. OTT
25. SEA
24. CAL
23. NJD
22. BUF
21. PHI
20. MIN
19. PIT
18. DET
17. STL
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The best thing EDM  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 7:50 am : link
has going for them is McDavid had *just* 4 points in the final 5 games of the series and EDM went 3-2.
In game 7 he wasn't as noticeable as usual with no points and just one shot on net and they won.

Add to that Draisaitl had just one point (an assist) last night it has to help their confidence.

other than that, I don't have much, this should be a lopsided series, but that's why they play the games.

I should have mentioned Mark Wells  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 8:48 am : link
passing in here. RIP to part of the most legendary upset in the history of sports.

I saw him play for the New Haven Nighthawks while he was part of the NYR organization.

Dallas is rightfully favored but Edmonton  
Metnut : 5/21/2024 9:11 am : link
finished the season 47-18-5 after a bad start and has the best player in the world. Should be a good series.

Eastern one should be good too. I obviously don't like NYR, but it's hard not to admire the way they are playing as a neutral fan. FLA is really going to test them, but I think Rangers blueline is good enough (at least compared to FLAs) to give them a real chance at the upset.
RE: Dallas in 5 games over Oilers  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2024 11:00 am : link
In comment 16520976 Rick in Dallas said:
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Stars are a deeper team all around and so much better in goal than Oilers .
I have been amazed at how well Jamie Benn has played for Stars this season.
Tanev addition at trade deadline was a huge addition to blue line.


You're an odd duck. You say you're a Rangers fan yet you are *relentlessly* negative about them, while you never do anything but fawn all over the Stars.
RE: RE: Dallas in 5 games over Oilers  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/21/2024 11:16 am : link
In comment 16521127 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 16520976 Rick in Dallas said:


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Stars are a deeper team all around and so much better in goal than Oilers .
I have been amazed at how well Jamie Benn has played for Stars this season.
Tanev addition at trade deadline was a huge addition to blue line.




You're an odd duck. You say you're a Rangers fan yet you are *relentlessly* negative about them, while you never do anything but fawn all over the Stars.


Chris Kreider scores a hat trick game 6.

"Yeah, but he was invisible the first and second period."
I call Rangers performance like I see it during games  
Rick in Dallas : 5/21/2024 11:22 am : link
I praise them when they play well and get on their ass when they don’t.
Easy as that!!!! Just like most Rangers fans on the game day threads.
RE: I call Rangers performance like I see it during games  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/21/2024 11:26 am : link
In comment 16521156 Rick in Dallas said:
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I praise them when they play well and get on their ass when they don’t.
Easy as that!!!! Just like most Rangers fans on the game day threads.


Ya sure about that? Lol.
whatever you say, Eeyore  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2024 11:27 am : link
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USA up  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 11:34 am : link
3-1 on Latvia in the 2nd. Latvia just had a shot go post to post but stayed out.

USA goals from Caufield, Tkachuk, and Werenski. 3 points for Caufield so far.

Again, with a win USA clinches 2nd place in Group B.

In Group A, Canada and Czechia scoreless. A regulation win for Czechia gives Czechia the 1 seed, anything else Canada gets it. Czechia could wind up as low as 3.
Go back to game 6 thread against Canes  
Rick in Dallas : 5/21/2024 11:35 am : link
Was I negative on every comment I posted? Absolutely not…

I didn't even realize  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 11:41 am : link
Lindgren is in net for USA.

I didn't realize he joined the tourney. Nedeljcovik has been goalie (as well as Trey Augustine).
Latvia  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 11:49 am : link
headed to a full 2 min (or less) 5 on 3. two separate trips on the same shift.
that was the ugliest  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 11:52 am : link
full 5 on 3 I have ever seen for Latvia.

I think they had 1 shot on net. No idea what they were doing. they seemed confused. I guess these teams get jammed together and don't practice 5 on 3 PPs too often.
Canada  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:06 pm : link
Czechia scoreless through 2.
Canada on the PP  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:16 pm : link
goes up 1-0 early 3rd on Czechia.

USA scores early 3rd too, to go up 4-1 on Latvia - Matt Boldy - who has been awesome (I think leads tourney on scoring).
two quickies  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:23 pm : link
from Latvia cut the lead to 4-3 with 10+ left.
Caufield  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:34 pm : link
just walks out in front and roofs it giving the USA a little breathing room.

USA up 5-3 with 11 left.

Kevin Hayes getting physical, what?

Latvia to the PP.
Sounds like the Devils are closing in on Sheldon Keefe  
Stu11 : 5/21/2024 12:39 pm : link
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Canfield is so good  
Rick in Dallas : 5/21/2024 12:40 pm : link
Don’t see him play a lot but he is fun to watch
Two quick  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:42 pm : link
goals for the Czechs tie up Canada.

3-3 and it goes to OT, but that minimum 1 point is enough to give Canada the 1 seed. Depending how it ends Czechia the 2. Which would be good for USA since Czechia is a different team since adding Pasta, Zacha, Necas, etc and if Czechia is the 3 seed they'd play USA assuming USA wraps up the 2.
Canada  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:51 pm : link
wins with the OT shortie (Cozens). Dylan Cozens in the running for tournament MVP if Canada wins the tourney.

USA ices the game  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:56 pm : link
vs Latvia with a SH goal (Farabee), penalty on an ENG (PS) and that results in an goal.
Boldy  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 12:59 pm : link
gets POTG for USA
RE: Go back to game 6 thread against Canes  
ColHowPepper : 5/21/2024 1:12 pm : link
In comment 16521169 Rick in Dallas said:
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Was I negative on every comment I posted? Absolutely not…

Rick, don't let these gaslighters and shit stirrers get to you. When things go sour in a period, in a game for the Rangers, the red lights sky is falling brigade come out in force, the usual suspects, who declare their favorite piece of shit players need to be moved, traded, benched, and hung in effigy...and at times these two clowns, both of whom I actually like, are among them, but I can deal because they actually know the game...for the most part LOL (:>

The difference between some of the the knee jerk take out the pistol and shoot them and you is that you give your observations as to what is going wrong and why. I'm often right there with you, a step ahead or behind. I'm sure others' perspectives may differ. Since 2022, I've critiqued CK (and Zib) loud and often for their disappearing acts in SCP. It's a good thing I wasn't around last week because I may not have been able to hold my tongue through periods 1 and 2 Thursday night (still haven't seen it) and would likely have eaten major crow. But Thursday is not the end of it, it only marked a new beginning. I will almost guarantee that the team's bi-polar ability is alive and well. Every team has its periods of poor play and wtf moments, it just seems like the Rangers' are uglier than most. Valiquette doesn't spare them (or the 'less than 100%' of particular players), he speaks in code. You're in good company.
My biggest dilemma  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 1:21 pm : link
in this upcoming Rangers Panthers series is I want the Rangers to win. I stand to make a good amount of money if the Rangers win the cup. Plus i have no other interest besides seeing good hockey and the Rangers have a lot of American players.

But....Matthew Tkachuk is one of my favorite players in the league. As is Sasha Barkov. I know already Rangers fans will have stupid takes about both players (Tkachuk more than Barkov, but about both) and I know my instinct will be to reply to the comments, but it is futile to try and argue with a mob, so I'll see how much restraint i have. lol or I may just avoid the game threads to not distract from the fun Rangers fans will have. 4 wins away from the SCF the fans don't need me busting up their fun.
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RE: My biggest dilemma  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2024 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16521308 pjcas18 said:
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in this upcoming Rangers Panthers series is I want the Rangers to win. I stand to make a good amount of money if the Rangers win the cup. Plus i have no other interest besides seeing good hockey and the Rangers have a lot of American players.

But....Matthew Tkachuk is one of my favorite players in the league. As is Sasha Barkov. I know already Rangers fans will have stupid takes about both players (Tkachuk more than Barkov, but about both) and I know my instinct will be to reply to the comments, but it is futile to try and argue with a mob, so I'll see how much restraint i have. lol or I may just avoid the game threads to not distract from the fun Rangers fans will have. 4 wins away from the SCF the fans don't need me busting up their fun.


I actually love watching the Panthers and it's sad to me that I'm going to have to hate them forever now.
Group play is done at the Worlds  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 5:26 pm : link
US got hosed, Czechia winds up 3rd in Group A. So they, the host team playing in their arena, who added Pastrnak, Zacha, and Necas play USA.

Here are the final group standings:
Group A:
Canada 19 pts
Switzerland 17 pts
Czechia 16 pts
Finland 10 pts
Austria 7 pts
Norway 6 pts
Denmark 6 pts
Great Britain 3 pts

Group B:
Sweden 21 pts (only perfect team in group play)
USA 16 pts
Germany 15 pts
Slovakia 12 pts
Latvia 9 pts
Kazakhstan 6 pts
France 4 pts
Poland 1 pts (fewest in tournament)

QF match ups (Thursday)

Sweden (B1) vs Finland (A4) @ 2:20 ET
Canada (A1) vs Slovakia (B4) @ 10:20 ET
USA (B2) vs Czechia (A3) @ 2:20 ET
Switzerland (A2) vs Germany (B3) @ 10:20 ET


Whoever wins the cup  
pjcas18 : 5/21/2024 6:35 pm : link
this year will end a minimum 25 year drought and of the 4 remaining teams, DAL has the most recent SC win (25 years ago).

NYR: 1994
FLA: Never (founded in 1993-1994)

EDM: 1990
DAL: 1999
NHL Draft is now 5 weeks away  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2024 11:31 am : link
mock draft from the Athletic.

I'd like to somehow see if the Habs can get Iginla but if Demidov falls it sounds like a real opportunity.

I have not seen him much other than U18's as a 16-year old before Russia was banned from INTL competition.

Link below
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Think USA still beats Czechia, though that is a brutal draw  
Andy in Halifax : 5/22/2024 12:32 pm : link
USA and Sweden seem like the best two teams to me. They'll meet in finals unless Czechia can pull off that upset. I think either will get past Canada in the SF.
RE: Think USA still beats Czechia, though that is a brutal draw  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2024 1:12 pm : link
In comment 16522160 Andy in Halifax said:
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USA and Sweden seem like the best two teams to me. They'll meet in finals unless Czechia can pull off that upset. I think either will get past Canada in the SF.


Nothing would surprise me in this tournament Andy.

Last year USA was undefeated in group play IIRC (not perfect like Sweden is this year - last year USA got 20 out of a possible 21 points b/c they beat Sweden in OT) and then went on to lose to Germany in the SFs and Latvia in the bronze medal game.

USA is deep, deeper than Czechia, but Czechia probably has the best player with Pastrnak. Should be a fun game to watch.

Devils hiring Sheldon Keefe  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2024 5:15 pm : link
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Can't be upset with Keefe  
Jay on the Island : 5/22/2024 5:21 pm : link
My first two choices were Sullivan and Berube but Keefe is not a bad option at all. Much better HC than Lindy Ruff or Travis Green. Now NJ needs to address the goaltending situation and I will be excited for next season as long as they land Saros or Ullmark. I just hope they don't panic and acquire Markstrom or Gibson.
I guess this means  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2024 5:29 pm : link
Sully is staying in PIT, which probably means Crosby is too.

Crosby is entering the final year of his deal coming off a great season.

Or...they both leave after the season.
.  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2024 7:54 pm : link
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RE: Can't be upset with Keefe  
Stu11 : 5/22/2024 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16522457 Jay on the Island said:
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My first two choices were Sullivan and Berube but Keefe is not a bad option at all. Much better HC than Lindy Ruff or Travis Green. Now NJ needs to address the goaltending situation and I will be excited for next season as long as they land Saros or Ullmark. I just hope they don't panic and acquire Markstrom or Gibson.

Yeah I'm fine with Keefe. Devils definitely did their due diligence here, interviewed 3 or 4 guys. Obviously they key will be getting a goalie and maybe some size either up front or on the back end.
Canada  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 12:27 pm : link
crushing the Slovaks 5-2 7 min left.
Canada  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 12:57 pm : link
(6-3 over Slovakia) and Switzerland (3-1 over Germany) on the semi-finals.

two more QF games today...

USA vs Czechia @ 2:20 (in Prague lol)
Sweden vs Finland @ 2:20

both venues are in Czechia, so it really doesn't matter Prague or Ostrava I guess.
This crowd  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 2:46 pm : link
is insane, the fans are having the best time.

scoreless with under 5 left in the 1st.

Pasta missed a breakaway
Czechs  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 3:23 pm : link
score on the PP, up 1-0
Refs letting a lot of penalties go uncalled  
Rick in Dallas : 5/23/2024 3:56 pm : link
Fun game
Every single  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 3:57 pm : link
goalie stoppage is a rugby scrum and a mugging.

USA loses  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 4:43 pm : link
in the QFs, awful draw for them, but the Czechs earned it.

Good game.
Sweden wins  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 5:07 pm : link
in OT, Joel Eriksson Ek (underrated player on MIN) from Hedman and Dahlin on the PP.

Finland penalty was by Konsta Helenius (2024 draft eligible) who has the rare triple of U18, U20 and Worlds in the same year.
Also  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2024 5:13 pm : link
one last note on USA...Brady Tkachuk is a beast. He was all over the ice, plays a heavy game. Maybe heavier than Matthew. He was assaulted out there basically and never retaliated or crossed the line IMO. He plays for an NHL team my favorite team is a rival of, so no reason for me to use hyperbole (for those who didn't watch for themselves).

I really hope and Matthew both play for USA in the Olympics.

No one will match the talent for talent with Canada, but I really like the team USA can put together if all their players play. And I still would like to see a Tkachuk/Hughes line.

Tkachuk was actually choked by a defender  
Rick in Dallas : 5/23/2024 6:15 pm : link
No penalty
wow 2 blunders and 2 goals  
ColHowPepper : 5/23/2024 9:53 pm : link
One each Otter and Kulik latter drawing DAL within 1, lot more entertaining than last night for many reasons
That’s how you open  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2024 6:30 am : link
A conference finals. McDavid GW in double OT

EDM steals home ice
You have got to ask yourself  
pjcas18 : 5/24/2024 7:52 am : link
how the D lose the best player in the game to be that wide open in front of the net. in double OT.
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