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NFT: NHL Playoff Thread and Misc Hockey - All Teams Discussion

pjcas18 : 4/19/2024 7:59 am
Welcome to the most exciting event in sports and the hardest trophy to win. The NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. I am sure NYR fans and NYI fans probably have game threads, but this thread for all hockey discussion. Including the playoffs, the U18s, World Championships, awards, predictions and draft lottery. Playoffs start Saturday with all series beginning either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Most series are every other day with an occasional 2nd day for travel or other reasons. Schedule in link.

The playoff match ups are finally set with LAK win (and LVG loss).

Here they are:
East
NYR* (1M) vs WAS (WC2) (Starts Sunday)
CAR (2M) vs NYI (3M) (Starts Saturday)
FLA (1A) vs TBL (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
BOS (2A) vs TOR (3A) (Starts Saturday)

West
DAL (1C) vs LVG (WC2) (Starts Monday)
WIN (2C) vs COL (3C) (Starts Sunday)
VAN (1P) vs NSH (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
EDM (2P) vs LAK (3P) (Starts Monday)

* President's Trophy Winner

My Predictions:
NYR in 5
CAR in 6
FLA in 6
BOS in 7

DAL in 6
COL in 7
VAN in 5
EDM in 7

What am I rooting for? Game 7's and OT's.

On the other end? The lottery teams will be (order determined at draft lottery which is usually during the playoffs):

32. SJS
31. CHI
30. ANA
29. CBJ
28. MTL
27. ARI/UTA
26. OTT
25. SEA
24. CAL
23. NJD
22. BUF
21. PHI
20. MIN
19. PIT
18. DET
17. STL
Playoff Schedule - ( New Window )
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BrettNYG10 : 4/19/2024 6:57 pm : link
I thought Philly didn't want to sign him for some cap reason. I also thought they were total children about his departure.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16475923 BrettNYG10 said:
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I thought Philly didn't want to sign him for some cap reason. I also thought they were total children about his departure.


I think they got a decent return, but not as good as potentially Gauthier can be. They basically traded the 5th pick in the 2022 draft for the 6th pick in the 2020 draft and a 2nd. And normally this would be ok, pretty fair even Drysdale was great early on, but hurt or no bueno since.

I still think Drysdale will be good, a top 4 D on his team, but Gauthier can be a star. And I'm not sure I'd move him off C.
Two games tonight  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 1:27 pm : link
as the playoffs open.

NYI@CAR 5:00pm start on TBS
TOR@BOS 8:00pm start on TBS

Other news...

Drouin out for 1st series. Big loss for COL, he was on their top line and PP1 units.

Also, something to watch in CAR, Svechnikov was out last playoffs. he's been rusty since I have seen them, but improving and he is an impact player when healthy.
Very underrated player  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 1:50 pm : link
this tournament will be more interesting than usual and I think it's because players want to be considered for 4 nations and the Olympics.

Kate Shefte
@KateShefte
Jared McCann said he’s playing for Team Canada at the 2024 IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship in Prague.

“Very excited to represent my country.”
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2024 1:56 pm : link
Gauthier was awesome in the world juniors, thought he was the most impressive person on the ice.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16476816 BrettNYG10 said:
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Gauthier was awesome in the world juniors, thought he was the most impressive person on the ice.


yep. he won MVP. He was the best player on the ice all season, just about every time BC played.

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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2024 2:03 pm : link
I don't watch as much NCAA hockey as I'd like.

Excluding Bedard, the last time I was that impressed with a player at WJC was Lafreniere in 2020, lol.
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16476831 BrettNYG10 said:
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I don't watch as much NCAA hockey as I'd like.

Excluding Bedard, the last time I was that impressed with a player at WJC was Lafreniere in 2020, lol.


Yeah, Bedard is the best I have seen though people who know say Forsberg dominated that tournament like no one else.

What Gretzky did there at 16 is historic. Lindros and Jagr dominated at 17.

but Forsberg, Gretzky, Lindors and Jagr were before i had access, so I take historians words for it.

The best recent individual I have seen other than Bedard was Trevor Zegras. He didn't even get best forward, I think Stutzle got it.

One other under the radar performance - not in points but in play - was Lias Andersson. He was captain of Sweden when they lost to Canada and famously threw the silver medal in the stands - I thought he would be a really good NHL player.



BC  
ColHowPepper : 4/20/2024 4:01 pm : link
has ring of truth…
watched first 2 periods last w/e, Eagles and top line started out with some chances but Davis was so solid, gave up not a sliver of hope, and by midway 2nd the feeel of the game had swung.

Back on topic, always makes me nervous when predominant sentiment is to give a team no chance to win…Caps…lgr
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BrettNYG10 : 4/20/2024 4:54 pm : link
I've never been so confident in a playoff series than this one, CHP.

(means Caps in 4)
CAR vs NYI  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 6:21 pm : link
is what I expected. CAR dominating zone time and possession, NYI playing good D and Varlamov (though I thought it would be Sorokin) dominating and keeping it tied.

1-1 12 left in the 2nd.
Isles getting the better of the play here.  
BlueHurricane : 4/20/2024 6:27 pm : link
They look like they belong. Was worried they were going to come crashing down after that first goal on a horse shit call and dive.
NYI definitely  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 6:41 pm : link
pushing back and owning the playing and scoring chances as the second winds down....but Freddy Anderson does what he couldn't do in TOR in the playoffs and makes saves to keep it tied. just under 3 min left in the 2nd.
ridiculous  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 7:10 pm : link
save by Andersen and then CAR scores on the ensuing play off a shot, tip, rebound.

2-1 CAR in the 3rd (16 min left)
RE: ridiculous  
ColHowPepper : 4/20/2024 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16477224 pjcas18 said:
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save by Andersen and then CAR scores on the ensuing play off a shot, tip, rebound.
2-1 CAR in the 3rd (16 min left)
That goal was foretold by the building pressure…hard fought, physical, good game.

Couple times in the last month of the season as the puck folks were batting around SC contenders, I kept pushing Canes and you kept pushing they don’t have the goaltending.
Most hockey experts picking Canes to win the East  
Rick in Dallas : 4/20/2024 7:32 pm : link
I worry that Rangers can’t match their intensity and physicality
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 7:33 pm : link
In comment 16477254 ColHowPepper said:
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save by Andersen and then CAR scores on the ensuing play off a shot, tip, rebound.
2-1 CAR in the 3rd (16 min left)

That goal was foretold by the building pressure…hard fought, physical, good game.

Couple times in the last month of the season as the puck folks were batting around SC contenders, I kept pushing Canes and you kept pushing they don’t have the goaltending.


I have a hard time highly ranking a Freddy Andersen led team.

He had some decent ANA years/playoff performances but was a circus with Toronto AND wasn't sure he would even be an option with the blood clots/health issues until a couple weeks ago.

And if it was Kochetkov it would be worse.

im so sick of this carolina matchup for isles  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2024 7:35 pm : link
canes seem to have added an acting coach this year meanwhile reilly cant even bleed right.
RE: im so sick of this carolina matchup for isles  
BlueHurricane : 4/20/2024 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16477270 Eric on Li said:
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canes seem to have added an acting coach this year meanwhile reilly cant even bleed right.


Seriously. Twice they dive like they are playing Premier League soccer.

CUNTS
RE: RE: im so sick of this carolina matchup for isles  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2024 7:42 pm : link
In comment 16477283 BlueHurricane said:
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canes seem to have added an acting coach this year meanwhile reilly cant even bleed right.



Seriously. Twice they dive like they are playing Premier League soccer.

CUNTS


refs correctly let a few go too. pretty good game by the isles but just like every other time they play carolina their goaltending/ST outplays isles and they get the win.
Not just the dive  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 7:42 pm : link
but even without the dive it was a weak call.

I'm surprised that got the slashing call without at least an embellishment unsportsmanlike penalty to off-set it.
RE: Not just the dive  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2024 7:56 pm : link
In comment 16477295 pjcas18 said:
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but even without the dive it was a weak call.

I'm surprised that got the slashing call without at least an embellishment unsportsmanlike penalty to off-set it.


agreed. the call on lee early was weak too.

not the officials fault the isles ST suck but hopefully the rest of the series they are clear on carolina's obvious intent to take advantage of that.
TOR BOS  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 8:15 pm : link
puck drop....coming up.

Go no one...hate these two teams.
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JayBinQueens : 4/20/2024 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16477266 pjcas18 said:
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save by Andersen and then CAR scores on the ensuing play off a shot, tip, rebound.
2-1 CAR in the 3rd (16 min left)

That goal was foretold by the building pressure…hard fought, physical, good game.

Couple times in the last month of the season as the puck folks were batting around SC contenders, I kept pushing Canes and you kept pushing they don’t have the goaltending.



I have a hard time highly ranking a Freddy Andersen led team.

He had some decent ANA years/playoff performances but was a circus with Toronto AND wasn't sure he would even be an option with the blood clots/health issues until a couple weeks ago.

And if it was Kochetkov it would be worse.


Anderson was recently the quickest goalie to a certain win amount. Him being hurt all the time takes away from bow good he is when healthy
RE: Most hockey experts picking Canes to win the East  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/20/2024 8:19 pm : link
In comment 16477265 Rick in Dallas said:
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I worry that Rangers can’t match their intensity and physicality


I think the Rangers could match their physicality, it's matching their intensity and commitment that I worry about.

Long way to go before that anyway.
Not even 3.5 minutes in  
Route 9 : 4/20/2024 8:20 pm : link
Toronto already in the hole lol
Isles played great tonight.  
JayBinQueens : 4/20/2024 8:25 pm : link
Was it a good first jab or do they have a few knocks in them
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pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16477388 JayBinQueens said:
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save by Andersen and then CAR scores on the ensuing play off a shot, tip, rebound.
2-1 CAR in the 3rd (16 min left)

That goal was foretold by the building pressure…hard fought, physical, good game.

Couple times in the last month of the season as the puck folks were batting around SC contenders, I kept pushing Canes and you kept pushing they don’t have the goaltending.



I have a hard time highly ranking a Freddy Andersen led team.

He had some decent ANA years/playoff performances but was a circus with Toronto AND wasn't sure he would even be an option with the blood clots/health issues until a couple weeks ago.

And if it was Kochetkov it would be worse.




Anderson was recently the quickest goalie to a certain win amount. Him being hurt all the time takes away from bow good he is when healthy


Yeah, most wins first 500 games. Goalie wins is not the best metric to evaluate a goalie. He beat out Braden Holtby by 1. Still commendable and like I said in the thread when I posted that if I had 100 guesses at who owns this "record" I never would have guessed it.

I'm just not sold on Andersen being able to win deep into the playoffs.

he was fantastic today though. Maybe he proves me wrong.

Ryan Reaves  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 8:28 pm : link
showing himself to be a liability early. Going for hits not plays. plus a poor pinch leads to the Bruins 1st goal.
isles cup odds up to +8k if anyone is feeling frisky  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2024 8:56 pm : link
seems like a crazy number for a team in the playoffs against a team they play very competitively.

they were +5k before today's game, so an extra $3k is right there for the taking!
you first  
ColHowPepper : 4/20/2024 9:36 pm : link
and I’ll see you

Isles have been playing well; but for Panarin’s artistry, NYR would be second seed.

To Rob’s point it is fair and it’s not like Laviolette hasn’t amped the intensity but for the uncertainty in that vein of Zib and CK. But Brind d’Amour is on a whole different level and his team is the mirror their coach
No idea why Nylander  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 9:41 pm : link
is out.

I wonder if any other player has played all 82 regular season games and then missed a playoff game.

I'm sure someone has gotten sick or something over the years but it has to be pretty unusual.

not that it would necessarily make a difference, but he scored 40 goals and had almost 100 points.
3-0 BOS  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 9:43 pm : link
this game is over as TOR can't stay out of the box.
4-0  
pjcas18 : 4/20/2024 10:04 pm : link
another PP goal.

BOS owns TOR.....again. This could be a sweep if Nylander doesn't come back.
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Route 9 : 4/21/2024 5:16 am : link
In comment 16477070 BrettNYG10 said:
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I've never been so confident in a playoff series than this one, CHP.

(means Caps in 4)


Agreed. None of this overthinking, playing down to opponents, squeaking by with 1-0 wins 2-1 wins, and the RANGERS having to be the ones to climb out of serious deficits and get wins to stay alive in games 5 and 6.

It's time to think. If you cannot beat this Caps teams with ease, holy shit. Lol.

Sweeps still exist. Make it happen, Rangers.

For the love of God, being up 2-0 in a series is a good thing. Keep the momentum going for yourselves, not the other way around.
Now you see why  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2024 9:15 am : link
tanking at the end of the season was smart by the Bruins.

they avoided the Lightning in round 1, who I think are vastly overrated by many people - including most of the NYR fans on here, and got the Leafs who they own.

If TBL can knock off FLA in an intrastate battle, BOS has a cake walk, IMO, to the conference finals. FLA BOS would be awesome, but BOS walks over TBL IMO.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself but a Rangers Bruins conference finals would be incredible.
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BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 12:51 pm : link
FL looks frightening.
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Route 9 : 4/21/2024 12:59 pm : link
In comment 16478014 BrettNYG10 said:
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FL looks frightening.


0 SOG by Tampa Bay
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BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 1:05 pm : link
This abuse is like whenever pj (Lightning) disagrees with me (Panthers).
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BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16477666 Route 9 said:
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I've never been so confident in a playoff series than this one, CHP.

(means Caps in 4)



Agreed. None of this overthinking, playing down to opponents, squeaking by with 1-0 wins 2-1 wins, and the RANGERS having to be the ones to climb out of serious deficits and get wins to stay alive in games 5 and 6.

It's time to think. If you cannot beat this Caps teams with ease, holy shit. Lol.

Sweeps still exist. Make it happen, Rangers.

For the love of God, being up 2-0 in a series is a good thing. Keep the momentum going for yourselves, not the other way around.


Spot on--Rangers fans are terrified are having any confidence about anything.

I'm not confident about winning the Cup, no team has more than a 20% chance at this stage. But the Rangers should demolish this Caps team.
There's you face off win PJ  
Rob in Rockaway : 4/21/2024 1:12 pm : link
Goal for Tampa Bay. 1-1
Well, I guess we count Henrik as one of those Rangers’ fans  
ColHowPepper : 4/21/2024 1:39 pm : link
cuz last night he made a point of saying 1x 2x 3x that Caps and Rangers split season 2-2
RE: Well, I guess we count Henrik as one of those Rangers’ fans  
BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16478067 ColHowPepper said:
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cuz last night he made a point of saying 1x 2x 3x that Caps and Rangers split season 2-2


What the hell does he know?
Have refs decided they’re not going yo call interference  
ColHowPepper : 4/21/2024 1:44 pm : link
in these SCP? Several by FLA, some last night, including what to me was clear as day when TOR defender, on the PK in the BOS end, yes the PK, was wrapped like a python on the boards by Carlo or McAvoy preventing him from getting back to his own end
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BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 1:47 pm : link
Former Rangers first round pick Lauri Korpikoski is apparently retiring from TPS. I thought he was going to be what Carl Hagelin turned into but he had a pretty cool career.
RE: Have refs decided they’re not going yo call interference  
BrettNYG10 : 4/21/2024 1:48 pm : link
In comment 16478071 ColHowPepper said:
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in these SCP? Several by FLA, some last night, including what to me was clear as day when TOR defender, on the PK in the BOS end, yes the PK, was wrapped like a python on the boards by Carlo or McAvoy preventing him from getting back to his own end


You are only saying this to impress me.

Uncalled interference calls irritate the shit out of me. The league would open up so much more if they were more meticulous about it.
Brett, he’s a GK  
ColHowPepper : 4/21/2024 1:50 pm : link
He is ALL KNOWING. Back to the ice with you
Nylander  
ColHowPepper : 4/21/2024 1:56 pm : link
pj was going to ask you cuz I figured you’’d know the back story, ‘the talk of Canada’. TOR coach tried to minimize and say his team’s game was lacking Nylander or not. His deflection raised more Qs than As
RE: RE: Have refs decided they’re not going yo call interference  
ColHowPepper : 4/21/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16478080 BrettNYG10 said:
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You are only saying this to impress me.

Uncalled interference calls irritate the shit out of me. The league would open up so much more if they were more meticulous about it.

Ha! I was hoping to irritate
RE: Nylander  
pjcas18 : 4/21/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16478088 ColHowPepper said:
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pj was going to ask you cuz I figured you’’d know the back story, ‘the talk of Canada’. TOR coach tried to minimize and say his team’s game was lacking Nylander or not. His deflection raised more Qs than As


no idea. I mentioned it above. it's a mystery. I only assume he was injured in practice. I can't remember any player ever playing 82 games in the regular season and then miss game 1 of the playoffs. that's 100 point player out of your lineup.

One of the Leafs players asked about it said "hopefully he doesn't miss much time" but that's as much as I've heard said about it.

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