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NFT: NHL Playoff Thread and Misc Hockey - All Teams Discussion

pjcas18 : 4/19/2024 7:59 am
Welcome to the most exciting event in sports and the hardest trophy to win. The NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. I am sure NYR fans and NYI fans probably have game threads, but this thread for all hockey discussion. Including the playoffs, the U18s, World Championships, awards, predictions and draft lottery. Playoffs start Saturday with all series beginning either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Most series are every other day with an occasional 2nd day for travel or other reasons. Schedule in link.

The playoff match ups are finally set with LAK win (and LVG loss).

Here they are:
East
NYR* (1M) vs WAS (WC2) (Starts Sunday)
CAR (2M) vs NYI (3M) (Starts Saturday)
FLA (1A) vs TBL (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
BOS (2A) vs TOR (3A) (Starts Saturday)

West
DAL (1C) vs LVG (WC2) (Starts Monday)
WIN (2C) vs COL (3C) (Starts Sunday)
VAN (1P) vs NSH (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
EDM (2P) vs LAK (3P) (Starts Monday)

* President's Trophy Winner

My Predictions:
NYR in 5
CAR in 6
FLA in 6
BOS in 7

DAL in 6
COL in 7
VAN in 5
EDM in 7

What am I rooting for? Game 7's and OT's.

On the other end? The lottery teams will be (order determined at draft lottery which is usually during the playoffs):

32. SJS
31. CHI
30. ANA
29. CBJ
28. MTL
27. ARI/UTA
26. OTT
25. SEA
24. CAL
23. NJD
22. BUF
21. PHI
20. MIN
19. PIT
18. DET
17. STL
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Wow  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2024 1:47 pm : link
Will Smith signed his ELC with SJS.

I thought he was the best of the BC three heading in to the season - though Ryan Leonard looked like the best during the season, but I also expected him to stay a year with Hagens and try and win a title.
I didn't see the game  
Greg from LI : 5/28/2024 2:25 pm : link
Did the Oilers lose because Skinner stunk, or did Dallas just outplay them?

The way they've neglected goalie as a position is just mind blowing.
RE: I didn't see the game  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16525825 Greg from LI said:
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Did the Oilers lose because Skinner stunk, or did Dallas just outplay them?

The way they've neglected goalie as a position is just mind blowing.


Skinner was a net negative (no pun intended), and Otter was very good. DAL is a better team, but if EDM had Igor or comparable they'd be up 2-1 in the series.

EDM won the 1st period, DAL the 2nd and it was tied 3-3 after two, and the third was tightly played, but DAL was just better - Skinner didn't help things.

Skinner was -1.37 goals saved above expected.
Otter was .9 goals saved above expected.

In a 1 goal game (ENG added the 2nd) that's the difference.
What do you guys think of this pulling the goalie so early  
Stu11 : 5/28/2024 3:04 pm : link
like teams have in the past 3 or 4 seasons? I'm not a big fan. They used to do it around the 1 minute mark, which was a bit late, but now teams are doing it as early as like 3 minutes. I think there's a happy medium. Maybe 2 minutes. The problem is like last night you're giving the other team a chance to take 100 foot shots at an empty net for 2 and a half to 3 minutes. I get the arguement for doing as early as possible just not my preference.
If Edmonton ends up getting bounced  
Greg from LI : 5/28/2024 3:07 pm : link
I would have to think McDavid gives the team an ultimatum to acquire a quality goalie somehow. How could he not?
RE: What do you guys think of this pulling the goalie so early  
Matt M. : 5/28/2024 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16525881 Stu11 said:
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like teams have in the past 3 or 4 seasons? I'm not a big fan. They used to do it around the 1 minute mark, which was a bit late, but now teams are doing it as early as like 3 minutes. I think there's a happy medium. Maybe 2 minutes. The problem is like last night you're giving the other team a chance to take 100 foot shots at an empty net for 2 and a half to 3 minutes. I get the arguement for doing as early as possible just not my preference.
I agree.
Supposedly  
pjcas18 : 5/28/2024 4:13 pm : link
the analytics support pulling the goalie in a one-goal game with o-zone possession and with 5-8 min left.

I won't pretend to understand why.

I haven't seen NHL coaches do it that early, but Quinnipiac coach Rand Pecknold was pretty close to that in the National title game (3:28 left in a one goal game in 2023) and the Regional Finals (2022). It worked in 2023 vs MIN in the title game, failed the other in 2022 vs Michigan in the regional finals. When it worked they tied it and won the title in OT.


Under 4 mins is the earliest I can recall seeing  
Greg from LI : 5/28/2024 4:18 pm : link
Were I playing the Rangers, I'd do it even earlier because it seems like they score empty netters maybe 10% of the time.
Huge game in EDM tonight.  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2024 10:11 am : link
If DAL goes home up 3-1 it's bye bye Oilers IMO. It may be anyway, but it will definitely be if EDM loses 3&4 at home.

Game time 8:30.
RE: Supposedly  
Stu11 : 5/29/2024 11:34 am : link
In comment 16525939 pjcas18 said:
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the analytics support pulling the goalie in a one-goal game with o-zone possession and with 5-8 min left.

I won't pretend to understand why.

I haven't seen NHL coaches do it that early, but Quinnipiac coach Rand Pecknold was pretty close to that in the National title game (3:28 left in a one goal game in 2023) and the Regional Finals (2022). It worked in 2023 vs MIN in the title game, failed the other in 2022 vs Michigan in the regional finals. When it worked they tied it and won the title in OT.


Yeah I figured it was an analytics thing. Just not my thing. I hate giving a team a chance to take pot shots at an empty net until you have to.
Hakanpaa won’t play tonight for Stars  
Rick in Dallas : 5/29/2024 4:49 pm : link
Out since mid March
Wyatt  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2024 8:45 pm : link
Johnston. A min in. 1-0 stars.
Lmao.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/29/2024 8:54 pm : link
.
Lol  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2024 8:54 pm : link
Tough break on that one.
Why does the Edmonton cosch  
JT039 : 5/29/2024 8:55 pm : link
Stay with this goaltender?
He doesn’t  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2024 8:58 pm : link
Have a better goalie on the roster
RE: He doesn’t  
JT039 : 5/29/2024 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16527056 pjcas18 said:
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Have a better goalie on the roster


Geez that’s pretty bad. Most teams probably have 3 better than this guy.
lol  
JT039 : 5/29/2024 9:09 pm : link
The play by play announcer should play the power ball.
That was quick  
pjcas18 : 5/29/2024 9:15 pm : link
Bouchard off the McDavid pad shot 2-2 game
Strong win for Oilers  
Rick in Dallas : 5/29/2024 11:15 pm : link
Series now tied up 2-2.
Big injury for Stars when Tanev blocked a shot with his skate.
RNH  
pjcas18 : 5/31/2024 9:05 pm : link
on the PP, puts EDM up 1-0 in a pivotal game 5.
RNH  
pjcas18 : 5/31/2024 9:37 pm : link
again on the PP.

2-0 EDM

that's how you enter the zone on the PP. Nice pass up by Nurse and backhand pass by Draisaitl.
8 straight goals  
JT039 : 5/31/2024 9:44 pm : link
For the Oilers.
Dallas looks outclassed tonight  
Rick in Dallas : 5/31/2024 9:50 pm : link
Only 5 shots on goal
RE: RNH  
Diversify yo bonds : 5/31/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16528534 pjcas18 said:
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again on the PP.

2-0 EDM

that's how you enter the zone on the PP. Nice pass up by Nurse and backhand pass by Draisaitl.

He does it regularly , but I am still blown away every time Draisaitl throws a backhand sauce 70ft to somebody's tape. His forearm strength is off the charts.
How many guys can be against the boards on their backhand and still put the puck anywhere in the offensive zone?
RE: RE: RNH  
pjcas18 : 5/31/2024 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16528544 Diversify yo bonds said:
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In comment 16528534 pjcas18 said:


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again on the PP.

2-0 EDM

that's how you enter the zone on the PP. Nice pass up by Nurse and backhand pass by Draisaitl.


He does it regularly , but I am still blown away every time Draisaitl throws a backhand sauce 70ft to somebody's tape. His forearm strength is off the charts.
How many guys can be against the boards on their backhand and still put the puck anywhere in the offensive zone?


absolutely, he can do anything with the puck on his stick.

one of my favorite players to watch. especially on the PP.
EDM on the verge  
pjcas18 : 5/31/2024 11:07 pm : link
of SCF. Headed home Sunday with a 3-2 series lead.
I see KK being a future  
MetsAreBack : 6/1/2024 12:00 am : link
RNH

Would love to see Edmonton - NYR finals but obviously it will probably be sawgrass outlets against Edmonton and best of luck to Canada in that series. Actually had a friend talked down by tsa agent on Tuesday in Fort Lauderdale for wearing rangers gear after a loss.

Was a panthers season ticket holder for 6 years 2013-2019 and had some
Decent teams - lost to islanders in 6 one year. Couldn’t give my tickets away unless it was Montreal Toronto Boston etc. what a joke - these clowns don’t deserve what they have now while NYR MTL and TOR fans continue to suffer
RE: I see KK being a future  
pjcas18 : 6/1/2024 7:15 am : link
In comment 16528567 MetsAreBack said:
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RNH

Would love to see Edmonton - NYR finals but obviously it will probably be sawgrass outlets against Edmonton and best of luck to Canada in that series. Actually had a friend talked down by tsa agent on Tuesday in Fort Lauderdale for wearing rangers gear after a loss.

Was a panthers season ticket holder for 6 years 2013-2019 and had some
Decent teams - lost to islanders in 6 one year. Couldn’t give my tickets away unless it was Montreal Toronto Boston etc. what a joke - these clowns don’t deserve what they have now while NYR MTL and TOR fans continue to suffer


Good call, definitely some similarities with Kakko's potential and what RNH has done. RNH has a 100 point season, not sure Kakko has that in him but it was an outlier for RNH.

agree with everything else you said. I remember you used to post about going to Panthers games.
Whoever wins the East  
Gman11 : 6/1/2024 7:18 am : link
is winning the Cup IMO, and to my dismay, it looks like Florida.

Neither Edmonton or Dallas will have the space that they've been allowed in their series. Florida has stymied Panarin, Zibanejad and Kreider and they can do the same to McDavid, Draisaitl and crew.

If somehow the Rangers can pull it off, Shesterkin is miles better than Skinner.
One team has punched their ticket  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 8:17 am : link
to the SCF, will another do so tonight?

With stating the obvious this would be their best chance (tonight) at home in game 6.

One impressive stat is EDM has the top 4 in points in the playoffs (Trocheck tied with RNH for 4th).

One other pretty amazing stat is Jeremy Swayman still leads the playoffs in goals saved above expected with 4, 5 or 6 less games played than the final 4 goalies. He has a shot at leading the playoffs in this when its all said and done (Otter or Bobrovsky can if Otter makes it to the finals and has a great series) but it would need to be a great series.

Go Oilers  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2024 12:21 pm : link
I hope they win this and then smoke scumbag Florida
RE: Go Oilers  
Jay on the Island : 6/2/2024 1:12 pm : link
In comment 16529215 Greg from LI said:
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I hope they win this and then smoke scumbag Florida

They can't all be clean players like Rempe and Trouba.
Rempe’s still living in your head, I see  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2024 1:43 pm : link
And the Panthers have five or six guys as bad, or worse, than Trouba.
Oilers have Dallas figured out  
RasputinPrime : 6/2/2024 1:49 pm : link
now we find out if Dallas can counter.

Let's Go!
Stars  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 2:53 pm : link
with one lineup change. Putting in Mavrik Bourque for Dellandrea.


RE: Rempe’s still living in your head, I see  
Jay on the Island : 6/2/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16529257 Greg from LI said:
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And the Panthers have five or six guys as bad, or worse, than Trouba.

Lol, no I just find it funny how you complain when a player on your team gets hit hard then completely ignore the fact that you have Rempe throwing elbows at people's heads after the get rid of the puck. Btw I am not saying the Panthers don't have dirty players but you can't claim that the Rangers don't.
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holy shit  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 8:18 pm : link
McDavid on the PP.

1-0 EDM
RE: holy shit  
JT039 : 6/2/2024 8:19 pm : link
In comment 16529510 pjcas18 said:
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McDavid on the PP.

1-0 EDM


lol. That was unreal.
RE: RE: holy shit  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16529511 JT039 said:
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In comment 16529510 pjcas18 said:


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McDavid on the PP.

1-0 EDM



lol. That was unreal.


It was so fast I didn't know what I saw until I watched the replay, lol.
Hyman  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 8:41 pm : link
makes it 2-0 - looked soft.
5v5 Stars had a great period BUT  
Rick in Dallas : 6/2/2024 8:51 pm : link
Oilers buried 2 power play chances 2-0.
McDavid is such a special player.
McDavid  
RasputinPrime : 6/2/2024 9:06 pm : link
has blood in his mouth. If his mates follow, this is going to be the series.
The first period of this game  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 9:07 pm : link
is how I expected NYR vs FLA to go.

DAL dominated, but took penalties and EDM capitalized.

NYR did not.

I see a lot of similarities with DAL and FLA.
20 min  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 9:48 pm : link
left in DAL season.

Oilers being outshot 20 - 8.

but winning where it matters.

Hoping for OT and a game 7. It's the least the hockey gods can offer us fans.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2024 10:08 pm : link
I play hockey with the ref in this game sometimes. The one who just announced the Draisatl penalty.
RE: .....  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16529554 BrettNYG10 said:
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I play hockey with the ref in this game sometimes. The one who just announced the Draisatl penalty.


Is he good?

we have a whole team of refs in my league. such douche bags.

DAL cuts the lead in half. almost half a period left.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 6/2/2024 10:20 pm : link
Yeah, he is, lol. Not the best player, but good.
EDM  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 10:38 pm : link
it is.
10 shots  
pjcas18 : 6/2/2024 10:43 pm : link
For EDM. tied for the fewest in a playoff win and alone for the fewest in a conference final win.
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