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NFT: NHL Playoff Thread and Misc Hockey - All Teams Discussion

pjcas18 : 4/19/2024 7:59 am
Welcome to the most exciting event in sports and the hardest trophy to win. The NHL Stanley Cup playoffs. I am sure NYR fans and NYI fans probably have game threads, but this thread for all hockey discussion. Including the playoffs, the U18s, World Championships, awards, predictions and draft lottery. Playoffs start Saturday with all series beginning either Saturday, Sunday or Monday. Most series are every other day with an occasional 2nd day for travel or other reasons. Schedule in link.

The playoff match ups are finally set with LAK win (and LVG loss).

Here they are:
East
NYR* (1M) vs WAS (WC2) (Starts Sunday)
CAR (2M) vs NYI (3M) (Starts Saturday)
FLA (1A) vs TBL (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
BOS (2A) vs TOR (3A) (Starts Saturday)

West
DAL (1C) vs LVG (WC2) (Starts Monday)
WIN (2C) vs COL (3C) (Starts Sunday)
VAN (1P) vs NSH (WC1) (Starts Sunday)
EDM (2P) vs LAK (3P) (Starts Monday)

* President's Trophy Winner

My Predictions:
NYR in 5
CAR in 6
FLA in 6
BOS in 7

DAL in 6
COL in 7
VAN in 5
EDM in 7

What am I rooting for? Game 7's and OT's.

On the other end? The lottery teams will be (order determined at draft lottery which is usually during the playoffs):

32. SJS
31. CHI
30. ANA
29. CBJ
28. MTL
27. ARI/UTA
26. OTT
25. SEA
24. CAL
23. NJD
22. BUF
21. PHI
20. MIN
19. PIT
18. DET
17. STL
Playoff Schedule - ( New Window )
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Canada beat Switzerland  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 2:39 pm : link
8-1.

McKenna (2026 draft eligible) 3 pts (1G/2A)
Porter Martone (2025 draft eligible probably Hagens top competition for #1) 3 pts (3G)
Iginla 1G


After 3 games

Hagens still leads the tourney in points: 10
Eiserman has 8
McKenna has 8
Martone has 8
Connelly has 7
Stiga has 7


USA Finland for top spot in group A.

USA 24:3 goal differential
Finland 14:1 goal differential

USA vs Finland Tuesday at 11ET

RE: Toronto  
ColHowPepper : 4/28/2024 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16497015 pjcas18 said:
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...DALvsLVG last night best game of the playoffs so far. there is no room on that ice. Wyatt Johnson, the OT hero on a bad(ish) angle shot is a star at 20. How did the GW goal start? a face off win in the d-zone and a stretch pass from Robo.

Seguin had chance to ice VGK in 1st and extend the lead to 4 - 0 but was thwarted twice on solo breakaways. Stars very active and fast in the 1st but Knights began to slow them down in 2nd and evened it at 2.
Not sure if this is goalie  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 2:46 pm : link
related (no DeSmith?) or other.....

Jeff Paterson
@patersonjeff
Rick Tocchet says he has a line-up decision for #Canucks today for Game 4. Wouldn’t reveal more than that
COL  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 2:53 pm : link
opens the scoring in game 4. Lehky with the top shelf shot off the Mittelstadt feed.

I hated trading him, but he has no role on MTL given his age and their status as a team. he has really come into his own as a 2-way top 6 player.
really good 1st period  
ColHowPepper : 4/28/2024 3:24 pm : link
Col flying more than Jets. Cusp of overturning Jets goal but linesman blocked a definitive look
Makar  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 4:04 pm : link
putting on a clinic. that was ridiculous.

Avs up 3-1
Orr like  
ColHowPepper : 4/28/2024 4:05 pm : link
.
COL  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 4:16 pm : link
just too much for WIN.

Another PP goal, 4-1 COL after 2.

another sneaky good play by Lehkonen.
Another PPG  
ColHowPepper : 4/28/2024 4:17 pm : link
and the almost rout is on
I wonder if DeSmith  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 4:23 pm : link
is injured or just being replaced. I thought he played well last game (though I called this move once Demko was ruled out).

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
With Vancouver/Nashville, we should be prepared for the possibility Arturs Silovs starts for the Canucks. Not sure what happened here, though.
Sounds  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 5:11 pm : link
like some kind of injury to DeSmith. He's not even the backup so I doubt it's simply "coaches decision".

This is weird  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 5:50 pm : link
the announcers said that DeSmith is the EBUG.

No idea what's going on.
RE: This is weird  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 6:08 pm : link
In comment 16498128 pjcas18 said:
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the announcers said that DeSmith is the EBUG.

No idea what's going on.


Who else would they have? Luongo lol? It's their two ahl guys and CDS.

RE: RE: This is weird  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 6:27 pm : link
In comment 16498160 Diversify yo bonds said:
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In comment 16498128 pjcas18 said:


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the announcers said that DeSmith is the EBUG.

No idea what's going on.



Who else would they have? Luongo lol? It's their two ahl guys and CDS.


If he's healthy enough to be the EBUG, why wasn't he healthy enough to start?

unless this was coaches decision and if it was, why not at least make him the backup?

Just seems weird to me. Especially since while I suggested Silovs a few days ago, DeSmith played good enough last game and I'd at least expect him to be backup over Tolopilo.

Tolopilo was just ok in the AHL and has never played in an NHL game.
RE: RE: RE: This is weird  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16498196 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16498160 Diversify yo bonds said:


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In comment 16498128 pjcas18 said:


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the announcers said that DeSmith is the EBUG.

No idea what's going on.



Who else would they have? Luongo lol? It's their two ahl guys and CDS.




If he's healthy enough to be the EBUG, why wasn't he healthy enough to start?

unless this was coaches decision and if it was, why not at least make him the backup?

Just seems weird to me. Especially since while I suggested Silovs a few days ago, DeSmith played good enough last game and I'd at least expect him to be backup over Tolopilo.

Tolopilo was just ok in the AHL and has never played in an NHL game.
Because they literally have nobody else under contract to serve as 3rd/EBUG. He's hurt, but better than a beer league emergency option.
I don't know, I kind of think it depends  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 7:30 pm : link
what his injury is.

I don't think they're dressing both Abbotsford goalies...  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 7:36 pm : link
To play head games with DeSmith. I think he's hurt. Their only ebug options are Demko(serious injury) and DeSmith, so it's a hurt DeSmith.
Quinn Hughes is getting absolutely destroyed  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 7:37 pm : link
Nashville is much heavier than I thought they'd be.
I think Hughes  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 7:42 pm : link
got hurt when he got hit in the 1st.

the whole VAN offense is being smothered. They had three top 20 players - Miller, Hughes, and Pettersson. Pettersson has been invisible (other than his defensive miscues).

I don't remember seeing a team play D this way in the playoffs since the Devils popularized the neutral zone trap.
Nice passing  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 7:56 pm : link
on that one, Boeser's 2nd of the game to cut the lead to 1.

3-2 under 3 left in the game.
holy shit  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 8:00 pm : link
Boeser again. tied with 6 seconds left.
Going to  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 8:01 pm : link
OT in Nashville.
Hughes cooked Josi on that wall play  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 8:04 pm : link
Nice finish by Boeser
Actually it was Nyquist  
Diversify yo bonds : 4/28/2024 8:05 pm : link
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That was quick  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 8:18 pm : link
VAN with the win, up 3-1
Handshakes  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 10:46 pm : link
in WAS, one team has punched their ticket to the next round.

LAKvsEDM now.....

It's weird too  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 10:49 pm : link
I have listened to three different broadcast teams try and figure out what's wrong with Ovechkin. The guy is 38 years old. 39 before he laces them up for next year. He's f-ing old. It happens, he struggled for large parts of the season. He had the fewest 5v5 goals in his career.

Couple that with his young, skill-less team vs a top 5 PK and this is what you get.
Talbot out  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2024 10:50 pm : link
(benched) in LA, Rittich in.

Yeah, frankly that was kind of hilarious  
Greg from LI : 4/28/2024 10:52 pm : link
A geezer who’s been in the league for 20 years looks worn out in the playoffs? What a mystery.
Definitely  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 8:42 am : link
didn't expect to cite Stuart Skinner as Oilers playoff hero, but he was last night.

The Kings were all over the Oilers last night, outshooting, out-hitting and controlling play. they were physical with McDavid, not giving him any space.

Skinner played really well and EDM heads home up 3-1. He basically stole a game.
Two games tonight  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 11:35 am : link
one possible handshake game. BOS TOR series gets an extra day. Again. 2nd one of the series so far. Not sure why. Maybe Celtics conflict.

FLA vs TBL 7:00 FLA up 3-1 - see if the Sergachev bump can continue for TBL and make a series out of it.

DAL vs LVG 9:30 LVG up 2-1 as DAL somehow salvaged a game 3 win. They can steal back home ice if they pull off a win tonight and it would be a series where through 4 only road teams have won.

tomorrow night, 4 games, 4 possible handshakes, this is when you see some desperate hockey.
Vezina  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 1:11 pm : link
finalists named:

Hellebuyck
Bobrovsky
Demko

I had it as Demko prior to being injured, now I think it's Hellebuyck. Though he's having a rough go in the playoffs.
Hellebuyck is lucky they vote before the playoffs  
Greg from LI : 4/29/2024 1:31 pm : link
He's been pretty bad
RE: Hellebuyck is lucky they vote before the playoffs  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16499336 Greg from LI said:
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He's been pretty bad


Agreed. I think playoffs considered it's Swayman (so far). Igor has benefited from the fewest expected goals due to competition, fairly or unfairly, and Swayman had a better regular season. Not that you mentioned Igor, but....I had a prop bet on him before the season to win Vezina.

Hakstol  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 2:41 pm : link
axed in Seattle.

Incoming coaching retread in 3.....2....1...
RE: Two games tonight  
NYerInMA : 4/29/2024 4:51 pm : link
In comment 16499046 pjcas18 said:
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one possible handshake game. BOS TOR series gets an extra day. Again. 2nd one of the series so far. Not sure why. Maybe Celtics conflict.

FLA vs TBL 7:00 FLA up 3-1 - see if the Sergachev bump can continue for TBL and make a series out of it.

DAL vs LVG 9:30 LVG up 2-1 as DAL somehow salvaged a game 3 win. They can steal back home ice if they pull off a win tonight and it would be a series where through 4 only road teams have won.

tomorrow night, 4 games, 4 possible handshakes, this is when you see some desperate hockey.


Nope, the league just apparently decided to give them an extra day off. There's no events scheduled at TD Garden tonight.
This seems  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 5:03 pm : link
like a lot of coaching turnover.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Make it 17 head coaching changes now since the end of last season after Hakstol was let go in Seattle today.
RE: This seems  
Stu11 : 4/29/2024 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16499769 pjcas18 said:
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like a lot of coaching turnover.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Make it 17 head coaching changes now since the end of last season after Hakstol was let go in Seattle today.

Rumor has Mike Sullivan may be interested in jumping from the Pens to the Devils. He's buddy buddy with Tom Fitzgerald. Sign me up!!
Would he bring  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 6:32 pm : link
Crosby with him? Crosby has played for other coaches (Therrien, Blysma (won a cup with Blysma)) so not like he's married to Sully, I just feel like they have been together so long they go to together and with Crosby a UFA after the season maybe turn a page in Pittsburgh and without a doubt they land Gavin McKenna in 2026 or James Hagens in 2025 or both.


FLA  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 7:40 pm : link
parade to the box as usual. TBL can't capitalize then they do at 5v5 but Duclair in the crease and impeded Bobrovsky (allegedly) and goal is overturned.

scoreless in the 1st
Verhaeghe  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 8:15 pm : link
opens the scoring for FLA with the rebound on his own shot.

1-0 FLA
such a weak call on TBL  
ColHowPepper : 4/29/2024 8:30 pm : link
caught final 10 + ot of Canucks Preds, crazy finish, see what you were carrying on about
and SHG  
ColHowPepper : 4/29/2024 8:39 pm : link
for FL, nearly done here
but Hedman  
ColHowPepper : 4/29/2024 8:40 pm : link
scores after PP expires, spoke too soon
Florida  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 8:48 pm : link
D are not good.

TBL goal waved off. fortunate for FLA.
TBL challenged  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 8:50 pm : link
and lost so FLA to the PP.
Barkov  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 9:29 pm : link
bangs home the rebound - 3-1 FLA.

that was a huge goal.
TB has been so disorganized  
ColHowPepper : 4/29/2024 9:34 pm : link
and sloppy in its own end for last 10 minutes even without much FL forecheck
E-Rod  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 9:40 pm : link
with the one-timer dagger?

4-1 FLA
Turn out the lights  
pjcas18 : 4/29/2024 9:45 pm : link
TBL on your way out.

Maybe Stamkos final game for TBL.
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