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Chad Forbes: Patriots don't like Maye

Sean : 4/19/2024 7:53 pm
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Chad Forbes
@NFLDraftBites
Patriots don’t like Drake Maye….

Good for Drake Maye. He’ll get the opportunity to succeed in a far better situation.

Giants / Vikings / Broncos

That’s unless Jonathan Kraft intervenes and insists on a QB. In that case? I’d bet they take McCarthy.
If maye gets to 4  
AROCK1000 : 4/19/2024 7:56 pm : link
There will be a feeding frenzy for the next few picks
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2024 7:56 pm : link
No offense to GoDeep, but I think if Drake's there @ 4/considering our need for a QB/the amount of times we scouted him/what Eric & others have said...

We trade up with 'Zona.
We've heard this more than once.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 7:57 pm : link
And I don't blame them, they don't want another Sam Darnold situation. Maye is very boom or bust. I'd prefer a small trade up (no more than 2025 2nd and 3rd) for 4 or Penix later in the draft vs a king's ransom for Maye at 3. 144 hours and counting!
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BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 7:57 pm : link
In comment 16476022 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No offense to GoDeep, but I think if Drake's there @ 4/considering our need for a QB/the amount of times we scouted him/what Eric & others have said...

We trade up with 'Zona.


What did GoDeep say about Maye?
That  
g56blue10 : 4/19/2024 7:59 pm : link
If he was there at 6 they would trade back
BleedBlue.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2024 7:59 pm : link
We would pass on Drake even if he was there @ 6. Again, no offense to him, but I don't buy that.
I  
g56blue10 : 4/19/2024 7:59 pm : link
I will say a lot of the pundits do not like Maye
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Sean : 4/19/2024 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16476022 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No offense to GoDeep, but I think if Drake's there @ 4/considering our need for a QB/the amount of times we scouted him/what Eric & others have said...

We trade up with 'Zona.

This is better.
Makes perfect sense  
Darwinian : 4/19/2024 8:03 pm : link
Maye needs to be paired with an offensive-minded coaching staff and a QB whisperer like KOC in Minny or Daboll. Jerod Mayo isn't that guy, and neither is any other senior person on the Patriots. So the Pats see a raw prospect that they don't know how to handle.

This is going to be a costly 50-50 battle between the Giants and the Vikings. I prefer to overpay a little for Maye than to let McCarthy come to us.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2024 8:07 pm : link
Again-no offense to GoDeep-but we're getting a ton of asshats posting different & often contradicting shit.

Gun to head, I think we're trying to get a QB. That doesn't mean it'll happen. But the thought of us sticking @ 6 & Maye on the board & saying 'No thanks'...I'd be surprised.
Maye is the guy  
jvm52106 : 4/19/2024 8:08 pm : link
I want the Giants to take. Getting crazy with the rumors and info coming out.. I think the Pats are trying to build a strong market for 3..
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Sean : 4/19/2024 8:08 pm : link
In comment 16476043 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Again-no offense to GoDeep-but we're getting a ton of asshats posting different & often contradicting shit.

Gun to head, I think we're trying to get a QB. That doesn't mean it'll happen. But the thought of us sticking @ 6 & Maye on the board & saying 'No thanks'...I'd be surprised.

I interpret the Maye stuff as NYG/MIN trying to misdirect interest elsewhere. I think they both want Maye.
RE: BleedBlue.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16476029 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We would pass on Drake even if he was there @ 6. Again, no offense to him, but I don't buy that.


I'm almost certain that was about JJM
Sean you’re better than posting  
Brandon Walsh : 4/19/2024 8:14 pm : link
“Chad Forbes”

Look at who he works for

No one.
BleedBlue.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2024 8:16 pm : link
If JJM is there @ six, I'm taking him. Sy had him as the #1 QB prospect in '25.
RE: BleedBlue.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16476063 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If JJM is there @ six, I'm taking him. Sy had him as the #1 QB prospect in '25.


You don't have to tell me :)

I'm certain the asshat reference about passing on QB was about JJM though, not Maye.
Good thing  
Skittlebish : 4/19/2024 8:21 pm : link
all these teams are telling reporters who they like and don't like, makes things so much easier as a fan...god these reporters take every fan for an idiot
I want Maye  
UberAlias : 4/19/2024 8:24 pm : link
Just seems like a perfect guy for Daboll to develop. But will see.
RE: We've heard this more than once.  
bw in dc : 4/19/2024 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16476023 BleedBlue46 said:
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And I don't blame them, they don't want another Sam Darnold situation. Maye is very boom or bust.


I'd rather bust trying with Maye than continue to ride the DJ Bust Train further into the abyss.
RE: RE: We've heard this more than once.  
Darwinian : 4/19/2024 8:31 pm : link
In comment 16476079 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16476023 BleedBlue46 said:


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And I don't blame them, they don't want another Sam Darnold situation. Maye is very boom or bust.



I'd rather bust trying with Maye than continue to ride the DJ Bust Train further into the abyss.


Exactly.
(he reads BBI)  
Sy'56 : 4/19/2024 8:35 pm : link
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RE: RE: We've heard this more than once.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16476079 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16476023 BleedBlue46 said:


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And I don't blame them, they don't want another Sam Darnold situation. Maye is very boom or bust.



I'd rather bust trying with Maye than continue to ride the DJ Bust Train further into the abyss.


If I didn't like jjm od feel the same and if they traded a king's ransom for Maye I'd still be excited about the possibilities and the conviction.
RE: ...  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 8:42 pm : link
In comment 16476022 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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No offense to GoDeep, but I think if Drake's there @ 4/considering our need for a QB/the amount of times we scouted him/what Eric & others have said...

We trade up with 'Zona.


Oh, I totally missed GoDeep's thread. I see what you're saying now, wow so it sounds like the NFL doesn't agree with the Maye loving anti-DJ crowd here. That's kind of hilarious given how staunch and confident the anti-JJM crowd is. I'm a bit amazed. Jeez
Maye would be QB4 for me  
Capt. Don : 4/19/2024 8:42 pm : link
In this draft but he would likely be QB1 in many others.

Given our current QB room I can't believe we would be this picky, especially if he is just sitting there at 6.
If true why would this leak  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2024 8:43 pm : link
seems ridiculous that something so vital is just common knowledge now. I don’t buy it.
How can any of you believe  
Giant John : 4/19/2024 9:00 pm : link
Any of this crap.
I wouldn’t blame them.  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/19/2024 9:14 pm : link
Huge bust potential.
RE: RE: We've heard this more than once.  
Spider56 : 4/19/2024 9:17 pm : link
In comment 16476079 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16476023 BleedBlue46 said:


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And I don't blame them, they don't want another Sam Darnold situation. Maye is very boom or bust.

Interesting observation Gunny … only thing is you end up in the same place. Not trading up for a high risk guy at least gives you the chance to get some other skilled players.


I'd rather bust trying with Maye than continue to ride the DJ Bust Train further into the abyss.
Dane Brugler, Nate Tice, Daniel Jeremiah, and Bucky Brooks  
RAIN : 4/19/2024 9:27 pm : link
like him alot.

They cite his change of offensive coordinator and a terrible team as a root cause for the inconsistencies. The also talk about how he didn't do the the QB circuit academies and passing camps like others. He is a natural athlete that played multiple sports (his family is a basketball family) and his upside is enormous.

His tape, is not great this year. So he's a projection, but his supporters don't feel like he's a project. His 22' tape is a step up, in a better more familiar system with a better team.
The athletic family stuff  
Sy'56 : 4/19/2024 9:36 pm : link
needs stop with Maye

Literally same exact thing was said about Jones coming out
Look at who’s running the front office  
Biteymax22 : 4/19/2024 9:37 pm : link
And who the coordinators are. All GB people who come from the sit and develop school of QBs and a west coast system that loves athletic QBs.

All this screams McCarthy.

I can be wrong, I get it, its the draft and you never know. But I don’t see Maye as a fit for what this system asks of QBs. This doesn’t shock me.

RE: Look at who’s running the front office  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16476171 Biteymax22 said:
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And who the coordinators are. All GB people who come from the sit and develop school of QBs and a west coast system that loves athletic QBs.

All this screams McCarthy.

I can be wrong, I get it, its the draft and you never know. But I don’t see Maye as a fit for what this system asks of QBs. This doesn’t shock me.


I still have a sneaky suspicion they'd be happy with trading down with the Vikings for pick 11, 23 2025 1st and 3rd or something like that and then take Nix at 11.
RE: RE: Look at who’s running the front office  
Biteymax22 : 4/19/2024 9:47 pm : link
In comment 16476174 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16476171 Biteymax22 said:


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And who the coordinators are. All GB people who come from the sit and develop school of QBs and a west coast system that loves athletic QBs.

All this screams McCarthy.

I can be wrong, I get it, its the draft and you never know. But I don’t see Maye as a fit for what this system asks of QBs. This doesn’t shock me.




I still have a sneaky suspicion they'd be happy with trading down with the Vikings for pick 11, 23 2025 1st and 3rd or something like that and then take Nix at 11.


Nix would also fit what they do. However I think if you trade down, I think Nix fits very well in Payton’s system in Denver and you risk them jumping ahead of you to take him.

Just me thinking strategically, if Nix is their guy, they should just take him at 3 and not worry about pundits grades. If you have a conviction about a QB you think him and live or die by it.

Them taking Nix at 3 would be fantastic for the Giants…
one more week of this nonsense  
islander1 : 4/19/2024 10:01 pm : link
thank goodness.
RE: The athletic family stuff  
christian : 4/19/2024 10:07 pm : link
In comment 16476169 Sy'56 said:
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needs stop with Maye

Literally same exact thing was said about Jones coming out


You mean the Jones sister playing field hockey wasn't the reason behind his success?
RE: RE: RE: Look at who’s running the front office  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16476178 Biteymax22 said:
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In comment 16476174 BleedBlue46 said:


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In comment 16476171 Biteymax22 said:


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And who the coordinators are. All GB people who come from the sit and develop school of QBs and a west coast system that loves athletic QBs.

All this screams McCarthy.

I can be wrong, I get it, its the draft and you never know. But I don’t see Maye as a fit for what this system asks of QBs. This doesn’t shock me.




I still have a sneaky suspicion they'd be happy with trading down with the Vikings for pick 11, 23 2025 1st and 3rd or something like that and then take Nix at 11.



Nix would also fit what they do. However I think if you trade down, I think Nix fits very well in Payton’s system in Denver and you risk them jumping ahead of you to take him.

Just me thinking strategically, if Nix is their guy, they should just take him at 3 and not worry about pundits grades. If you have a conviction about a QB you think him and live or die by it.

Them taking Nix at 3 would be fantastic for the Giants…


Or trading down with us instead of Minnesota if they want Nix. If they traded down to 11, they would have plenty of ammo to outbid the Broncos trying to move up though.

My ideal scenario is Minnesota trades up with NE for Maye, we trade up with AZ for JJM (no more than pick 6, 70 and 2025 2nd), then NE gets Nix. I like JJM much more than Nix, he seems much safer yet I believe he has a good ceiling of potential too. Maye for picks 6, 47 and 2025 1st vs JJM for picks 6, 70 and 2025 2nd, I know what I would prefer. I'd hope we like Maye too in case Minnesota or NE takes JJM at 3 then we could get Maye for the same cost at 4.
RE: RE: BleedBlue.  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/19/2024 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16476066 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16476063 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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If JJM is there @ six, I'm taking him. Sy had him as the #1 QB prospect in '25.



You don't have to tell me :)

I'm certain the asshat reference about passing on QB was about JJM though, not Maye.


Dude, there’s a whole huge thread on Go Deep’s post saying the Giants don’t like Maye. You should read it.
RE: The athletic family stuff  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/19/2024 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16476169 Sy'56 said:
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needs stop with Maye

Literally same exact thing was said about Jones coming out


Seriously. When the best traits are “looks the part” and “comes from an athletic family” I am ready to move on.
RE: RE: RE: BleedBlue.  
BleedBlue46 : 4/19/2024 11:53 pm : link
In comment 16476280 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 16476066 BleedBlue46 said:


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In comment 16476063 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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If JJM is there @ six, I'm taking him. Sy had him as the #1 QB prospect in '25.



You don't have to tell me :)

I'm certain the asshat reference about passing on QB was about JJM though, not Maye.



Dude, there’s a whole huge thread on Go Deep’s post saying the Giants don’t like Maye. You should read it.


I corrected myself haha, I had missed thst whole thread. And it was GiantGrit who said we would not take JJM even at 6. That GoDeep thread is very entertaining.
RE: Good thing  
Optimus-NY : 4/20/2024 6:27 am : link
In comment 16476070 Skittlebish said:
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all these teams are telling reporters who they like and don't like, makes things so much easier as a fan...god these reporters take every fan for an idiot


The teams do the same with the reporters, lol.
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