He was pretty high on Pratt too... higher than Sy.
I could see taking a flyer on Rattler, he does have a lot of upside, but Pratt is a career backup to me. A good one, maybe, but he’d be a fringe starter.
RE: That statement assumes it's a fair competition
agreed, he makes a lot of bold statements. he does good work and puts in the work but his hit rate generally is pretty low.
i do think it's possible that lock plays better than jones if jones' regression continues, but his typical is a lot better than lock's typical. im not sure lock's typical is that much better than tyrod or cutlets last year, though last year that was possibly better than the broken version of jones.
NYG can backtrack it all they want, but Lock was told he would compete for a starting job which is why he signed. Seattle wanted him back. Schneider had no reason to make that up.
Hunt's comments were buried in the interview. He didn't say it in a way to generate attention. It was matter-of-fact. Leonard was visibly taken aback by the comment.
Summary: Fourth year junior entry who was the main guy for Ohio State for just one season, although he got his feet wet initially in 2016. Haskins played behind all-time great (collegiately) JT Barrett. While he had to wait his turn, Haskins came in prepared and took full advantage of the starting role in 2018. He threw for 50 touchdowns and nearly 5,000 yards with his best football being played down the stretch. Haskins two standout traits; accuracy and intelligence. This is a kid who truly understands concepts and understands how to react quickly, swiftly, and efficiently. When it comes to throwing the ball, he rarely misses his target when he throws from a steady position. The issue that popped consistently was a lack of carry over to being under pressure. Haskins is not a good athlete, as he plays heavy-footed and tight-hipped. The lack of fluidity below the waist is a problem and could really impede his progress in the league. He projects as a starter but the fact he started for just one year and shows mechanical problems means he needs to sit for at least a year.
*Throughout the entire pre-draft process, Haskins has always been the guy who I trust the most. Accuracy, decisions, and swagger in big situations are standout traits that I think carry over into the NFL very well, especially a market like New York. Haskins has a few things that he really needs to clean up, however. His lower body is a mess and he didn’t respond well to productive pass rushes. I also have a few concerns with the fact that Ohio State was loaded with talent all over the place. There are also some concerns with weight management and being professional in his approach off the field. Not a troublemaker at all, but some question if he can change and lead a locker room. I thought that was notable. In the discussion at 6 I’m sure, but another one I would rather hold off on until 17.
NFL Comparison: Ben Roethlisberger / PIT
2: Daniel Jones – Duke – 6’5/221
Grade: 80
Summary: Fourth year junior entry. A three year starter and two time team captain. Despite playing with inferior talent both up front and at the skill positions nearly every week, Jones put together a productive career as both a passer and rusher. The prototypical quarterback when it comes to size and playing style showed glimpses over the past two years of what a first round QB should look like. His NFL-caliber mechanics from head to toe give him the look of a professional passer and him being coached by David Cutcliffe, the college coach of both Peyton and Eli Manning, only helps strengthen the notion of how ready he is. Jones pairs that with toughness and grit that doesn’t come around often. However, there were constant red flags in his tape that are hard to ignore. He didn’t see things well and his decisions were too inconsistent. There just seemed to be a lack of a true feel for the pocket, the defense, and angles. Jones checks a lot of boxes but there is a lot of gamble in the team that takes him even though he comes across as a “safe” bet to some.
*I wanted to like Jones more than this, I really did. I have a thing for tough quarterbacks and I do think he brought his teammates to another level. That’s a trend that can really make a kid break out in the NFL. While I do have a 1st round grade on him and I do think he can be in play at 17 because of the position he plays, I think NYG may need to steer clear here. Jones has enough arm strength, touch, and athletic ability. But there isn’t a quick mind here, he doesn’t see everything a top tier QB does whether it is coverage or pass rush based. After a long time scouting him, he is a pass for me.
NFL Comparison: Ryan Tannehill / TEN
3: Drew Lock – Missouri – 6’3/228
Grade: 77
Summary: Three-plus year starter from the SEC who was among the conference leaders in the big passing statistics each year despite multiple schematic and coaching changes. Lock’s special arm talent earned 2nd Team All SEC honors as a senior, the first time he completed over 60% of his passes as the program introduced more pro passing concepts to the offense. The upside with him is higher than any passer in the class, as he possesses the rare ability to flick to wrist and shoot the ball out of his hand deep downfield with no wind up or warning. Lock has several plays on tape that scream top tier first round pick but the lack of consistency when it comes to accuracy and mechanics are alarming. The two are usually tied together, thus the notion that he can hide the issues with time to work on the details of the position is out there. It’s hard to imagine, however, after 1,200 passing attempts in college and seeing where he ended mechanically that all of the sudden those issues will disappear. The margin between his floor and ceiling is as wide as anyone.
*I remember watching him for the first time in the fall of 2017 and I immediately thought Matt Stafford 2.0. The release, quick and easy zip on his balls, and athletic base were attractive but I can’t get past the inconsistencies across the board. There are so many easy throws that he missed, so many times where his mechanics were a train wreck. Sure, you can say these things will change once he gets into an NFL coaching environment but I am of the thought that after the amount of experience he’s had and the mistakes he is still making, we will see more of the same in the NFL. That, to me, is not a franchise QB.
NFL Comparison: Jay Cutler / FA
4: Kyler Murray – Oklahoma – 5’10/207
Grade: 77
Summary: Fourth year junior entry. Initially began his career at Texas A&M but transferred to the Sooners program after just one year in Aggie country. Was a two-sport athlete at Oklahoma and was actually the 9th overall pick in the 2018 MLB draft, receiving a multi million dollar contract and signing bonus from the Oakland A’s. The fall of 2018 was supposed to be a farewell-to-football tour for Murray but a Heisman and Davey O’Brien award winning, All American season caused Murray to think otherwise about his future. Ultimately he returned the money to the A’s and entered the NFL Draft, where many expect him to the top overall pick. Murray is a dynamic athlete with quick, smooth, and accurate release. His short limbs and explosive twitch give him a unique level of speed as both a rusher and passer. The height alone makes him a major risk and he doesn’t enter the league with a lot of starting expedience, either. The Murray risk that someone will take in round 1 will be the ultimate case study and a true testament to how much weight analytics can, or cannot, trump over traditional scouting. Murray is a swing for the fences by Adam Dunn, meaning he will be a major whiff or a 500-foot homerun. Nobody would be surprised by his success, nor would it be a shock if he were playing baseball within 5 years.
*I actually think my 77 grade here is generous and part of me thinks his future in the league would be brighter as a running back. His athletic ability may actually be underrated by some because so much of the discussion surrounds his height and ability to throw the ball. But guys, this dude is a legit sub 4.4 runner with outstanding vision and change of direction. Do I want that to be the main weapon as a quarterback? No way, but he is intriguing. I wouldn’t put my job on the line with him, but there is no denying the excitement he brings to the table. But there are so many question marks, big question marks, that I just couldn’t handle him being my guy. There are a few major character question marks I have here too. Let someone else take him and enjoy the show, for better or worse.
If not sold on Lock? Why would anyone be sold on Lock?
I'm paraphrasing. He basically said if they don't go with Lock in 2024.
Thanks (I always appreciate the summaries!)--I guess my point is the evaluation of the draft QBs (like Rattler) would not be impacted by Drew Lock, lol. If you like Rattler, take him!
Piece from this interview is that opinions on these QB's part widely- just like they do here.
1) Rattler is seen by a few folks as a viable option at QB this year, ahead of some of the top 4 guys.
2) Some folks have Penix rated up in the top 3 options ahead of JJM, Nix, Maye..
3) Pratt and Travis both could go earlier than many think.
4) I have seen a few folks who feel Nix is better than JJM, Penix, Maye...
I think because the bulk of these QB's are seen as "close" you will see very different rankings based on where your team is at. Minnesota has weapons across both sides of the offense and at TE. They could use a guy who is polished, makes the right reads and can get the ball out quickly..
New England needs a guy who can run a new offense, with a collection of guys who are new to the system as well and is a guy to learn behind Brisset.
NY Giants are looking for a guy who CAN be the reason we win games and not just a guy you can manufacture wins with. Our lost of QB's might be very different than NE, Minn and even Denver..
Went in the 6th round, Brock Purdy drafted LAST…….nobody knows nuthin at this moment, place your bets!
Can we please stop referencing TB12 when talking about QBs being picked late & then becoming great? That's like a asteroid/dinosaur extinction like event: it ain't happening too often.
I can't take anyones opinion seriously if they think Spencer Rattler is a top 6 QB in this Draft let alone top 3. He's not a good QB. There's a reason Sy calls him an NFL backup.
If the QB that the Giants prefer is not there at (6)
they should not force a pick. They should only draft a QB that they believe can become a franchise QB.
The worst thing that they can do is to overdraft a player and pass on a potential star at another position.
Some would say that is what they did with DJ. You cannot repeat that error.
The Giants are in a rebuilding process and it cannot happen in one year. They will have to obtain a quality starting QB but you cannot wish it to happen and they should not waste draft capital hoping that a second-tier player will be that player.
If the Giants can build a solid team they will find a way to acquire a QB.
Whether through free agency, a trade, or the draft.
Some may not like it but Dak Prescott is better than any option in the draft and he will be available next year.
The Giants would be a perennial contender if they used their draft resources to build a dominant defense and an offense led by Dak.
Some believe that Dak is overrated and overpaid, and that may be true, but he is a top-10 QB and you can win with him.
I’ll never understand the love for him. Especially as a second round pick.
It's honestly mindblowing. He is not a good QB.
He had 22 TD passes & 2 INTs at South Carolina game in only 6 games. These were his opponents and their defensive ranking.
2022 Vanderbilt - 125 out of 131
2022 Tennessee - 36 out of 131
2023 Furman - Unranked
2023 Miss State - 68 out of 133
2023 Vanderbilt - 129 out of 133
2023 UF Gators - 78 out of 133
So he had a handful of good games against terrible defenses outside of Tennesse. In the 19 other games he played at South Carolina he had 15 TDs & 18 INTs.
He played 8 games against top 50 ranked defenses. Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson, Notre Dame & Missouri. Here are the numbers for those games
He completed 55% of his passes for 1648 yards with 5 TDs & 10 INTs
You could post QB stats from players 1st few seasons and not know how good a player he is.
Lock failed under 2 head coaches and lost out to Geno Smith. That to me spells career backup or low end starter. Not many QBs bounce around and suddenly become a top 15 QB. If Lock is starting it’s not going to help this team progress. He is a short term stop gap.
Taylor is also not a starting caliber player. He is a low end starter / high end backup.
It’s ok if you don’t like Jones, but let’s not make it like Lock is an improvement. He was still going to be a backup in Seattle. Whether the Giants offered him the opportunity to compete is another story. I hope that he and DJ do compete in camp to see who the starter is so we don’t have to hear it all season. I’m all for letting the best player play regardless of salary.
We are also probably not cutting Jones when he is healthy. We are somewhat tight against the cap and his $47 mil is sunk whether he plays or not but we will have to replace him with another QB so cutting him actually costs more than keeping him.
Based on his injury history and that injury clause, Jones shouldn’t see the field at all this fall. I’ll repeat this until the sun explodes. Anything else is risking a catastrophe.
I could not agree more. That injury clause is fucking brutal
In any round but the 1st is half assing it. No thank you.
Half assing it?
Brady was just short of half assing it to the Super Bowl (10 times in 21 seasons).
why not just use the last pick in every draft on a QB cause Brock Purdy exists right? Let’s no team EVER use a 1st round pick on a QB again because Tom Brady and Brock Purdy exist. Hell. Let’s just grab an Arena league QB. Kurt Warner was pretty good right?
Has been very consistent in his disdain for Jones, to the point where while I agree with his points in general I also personally feel he is biased against Jones at this point based on his predisposition to go back to his original evaluation. Don't get me wrong Jones needs to be upgraded, but I do think Jones still belongs in the league.
Has been very consistent in his disdain for Jones, to the point where while I agree with his points in general I also personally feel he is biased against Jones at this point based on his predisposition to go back to his original evaluation. Don't get me wrong Jones needs to be upgraded, but I do think Jones still belongs in the league.
Jones would make an adequate back-up QB. He's not a starter, and he's not a franchise QB.
first, DJ isn't even able to practice yet. He'll be ready by training camp? Wouldn't take that bet.
Schoen and Daboll are in year 3. They had a good year 1, Year 2 was problematic - this is a critical year. They will play whoever gives them the best chance to win.
I think the Giants draft a receiver in Round 1 if not already taken
in fact he may be better. I think he also has more upside. I'd have no problem starting Lock, in fact I don't think it makes any difference in our offense which one starts. Besides we know jones can't do it so why not see if Lock can
in fact he may be better. I think he also has more upside. I'd have no problem starting Lock, in fact I don't think it makes any difference in our offense which one starts. Besides we know jones can't do it so why not see if Lock can
This is where I'm at as well. Have it be an open competition and if Lock wins, he wins - you don't start Jones if Lock is playing better.
On locked on they had the person who does Seattle. He said lock played well in his battle with Smith and then played well when he started. His problem was over reliance on his arm and bad decision making that resulted from it. The staff was able to clean that up somewhat. It's been the decisions. But he has a cannon for an arm. There is potential there.
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He was pretty high on Pratt too... higher than Sy.
I could see taking a flyer on Rattler, he does have a lot of upside, but Pratt is a career backup to me. A good one, maybe, but he’d be a fringe starter.
Exactly.
He qualified his statement saying as much.
agreed, he makes a lot of bold statements. he does good work and puts in the work but his hit rate generally is pretty low.
i do think it's possible that lock plays better than jones if jones' regression continues, but his typical is a lot better than lock's typical. im not sure lock's typical is that much better than tyrod or cutlets last year, though last year that was possibly better than the broken version of jones.
Hunt's comments were buried in the interview. He didn't say it in a way to generate attention. It was matter-of-fact. Leonard was visibly taken aback by the comment.
1: Dwayne Haskins – Ohio State – 6’3/233
Grade: 81
Summary: Fourth year junior entry who was the main guy for Ohio State for just one season, although he got his feet wet initially in 2016. Haskins played behind all-time great (collegiately) JT Barrett. While he had to wait his turn, Haskins came in prepared and took full advantage of the starting role in 2018. He threw for 50 touchdowns and nearly 5,000 yards with his best football being played down the stretch. Haskins two standout traits; accuracy and intelligence. This is a kid who truly understands concepts and understands how to react quickly, swiftly, and efficiently. When it comes to throwing the ball, he rarely misses his target when he throws from a steady position. The issue that popped consistently was a lack of carry over to being under pressure. Haskins is not a good athlete, as he plays heavy-footed and tight-hipped. The lack of fluidity below the waist is a problem and could really impede his progress in the league. He projects as a starter but the fact he started for just one year and shows mechanical problems means he needs to sit for at least a year.
*Throughout the entire pre-draft process, Haskins has always been the guy who I trust the most. Accuracy, decisions, and swagger in big situations are standout traits that I think carry over into the NFL very well, especially a market like New York. Haskins has a few things that he really needs to clean up, however. His lower body is a mess and he didn’t respond well to productive pass rushes. I also have a few concerns with the fact that Ohio State was loaded with talent all over the place. There are also some concerns with weight management and being professional in his approach off the field. Not a troublemaker at all, but some question if he can change and lead a locker room. I thought that was notable. In the discussion at 6 I’m sure, but another one I would rather hold off on until 17.
NFL Comparison: Ben Roethlisberger / PIT
2: Daniel Jones – Duke – 6’5/221
Grade: 80
Summary: Fourth year junior entry. A three year starter and two time team captain. Despite playing with inferior talent both up front and at the skill positions nearly every week, Jones put together a productive career as both a passer and rusher. The prototypical quarterback when it comes to size and playing style showed glimpses over the past two years of what a first round QB should look like. His NFL-caliber mechanics from head to toe give him the look of a professional passer and him being coached by David Cutcliffe, the college coach of both Peyton and Eli Manning, only helps strengthen the notion of how ready he is. Jones pairs that with toughness and grit that doesn’t come around often. However, there were constant red flags in his tape that are hard to ignore. He didn’t see things well and his decisions were too inconsistent. There just seemed to be a lack of a true feel for the pocket, the defense, and angles. Jones checks a lot of boxes but there is a lot of gamble in the team that takes him even though he comes across as a “safe” bet to some.
*I wanted to like Jones more than this, I really did. I have a thing for tough quarterbacks and I do think he brought his teammates to another level. That’s a trend that can really make a kid break out in the NFL. While I do have a 1st round grade on him and I do think he can be in play at 17 because of the position he plays, I think NYG may need to steer clear here. Jones has enough arm strength, touch, and athletic ability. But there isn’t a quick mind here, he doesn’t see everything a top tier QB does whether it is coverage or pass rush based. After a long time scouting him, he is a pass for me.
NFL Comparison: Ryan Tannehill / TEN
3: Drew Lock – Missouri – 6’3/228
Grade: 77
Summary: Three-plus year starter from the SEC who was among the conference leaders in the big passing statistics each year despite multiple schematic and coaching changes. Lock’s special arm talent earned 2nd Team All SEC honors as a senior, the first time he completed over 60% of his passes as the program introduced more pro passing concepts to the offense. The upside with him is higher than any passer in the class, as he possesses the rare ability to flick to wrist and shoot the ball out of his hand deep downfield with no wind up or warning. Lock has several plays on tape that scream top tier first round pick but the lack of consistency when it comes to accuracy and mechanics are alarming. The two are usually tied together, thus the notion that he can hide the issues with time to work on the details of the position is out there. It’s hard to imagine, however, after 1,200 passing attempts in college and seeing where he ended mechanically that all of the sudden those issues will disappear. The margin between his floor and ceiling is as wide as anyone.
*I remember watching him for the first time in the fall of 2017 and I immediately thought Matt Stafford 2.0. The release, quick and easy zip on his balls, and athletic base were attractive but I can’t get past the inconsistencies across the board. There are so many easy throws that he missed, so many times where his mechanics were a train wreck. Sure, you can say these things will change once he gets into an NFL coaching environment but I am of the thought that after the amount of experience he’s had and the mistakes he is still making, we will see more of the same in the NFL. That, to me, is not a franchise QB.
NFL Comparison: Jay Cutler / FA
4: Kyler Murray – Oklahoma – 5’10/207
Grade: 77
Summary: Fourth year junior entry. Initially began his career at Texas A&M but transferred to the Sooners program after just one year in Aggie country. Was a two-sport athlete at Oklahoma and was actually the 9th overall pick in the 2018 MLB draft, receiving a multi million dollar contract and signing bonus from the Oakland A’s. The fall of 2018 was supposed to be a farewell-to-football tour for Murray but a Heisman and Davey O’Brien award winning, All American season caused Murray to think otherwise about his future. Ultimately he returned the money to the A’s and entered the NFL Draft, where many expect him to the top overall pick. Murray is a dynamic athlete with quick, smooth, and accurate release. His short limbs and explosive twitch give him a unique level of speed as both a rusher and passer. The height alone makes him a major risk and he doesn’t enter the league with a lot of starting expedience, either. The Murray risk that someone will take in round 1 will be the ultimate case study and a true testament to how much weight analytics can, or cannot, trump over traditional scouting. Murray is a swing for the fences by Adam Dunn, meaning he will be a major whiff or a 500-foot homerun. Nobody would be surprised by his success, nor would it be a shock if he were playing baseball within 5 years.
*I actually think my 77 grade here is generous and part of me thinks his future in the league would be brighter as a running back. His athletic ability may actually be underrated by some because so much of the discussion surrounds his height and ability to throw the ball. But guys, this dude is a legit sub 4.4 runner with outstanding vision and change of direction. Do I want that to be the main weapon as a quarterback? No way, but he is intriguing. I wouldn’t put my job on the line with him, but there is no denying the excitement he brings to the table. But there are so many question marks, big question marks, that I just couldn’t handle him being my guy. There are a few major character question marks I have here too. Let someone else take him and enjoy the show, for better or worse.
NFL Comparison: Russell Wilson / SEA
I’ll never understand the love for him. Especially as a second round pick.
I'm paraphrasing. He basically said if they don't go with Lock in 2024.
We're sorry for your loss.
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If not sold on Lock? Why would anyone be sold on Lock?
I'm paraphrasing. He basically said if they don't go with Lock in 2024.
Thanks (I always appreciate the summaries!)--I guess my point is the evaluation of the draft QBs (like Rattler) would not be impacted by Drew Lock, lol. If you like Rattler, take him!
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DJs stats crush his....
We're sorry for your loss.
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I’ll never understand the love for him. Especially as a second round pick.
Best name?
I wanted
Josh Allen, Dex, Sweat and lock in that order in that draft
What if Round 1 is not possible?
I'm in boat where they should be addressing new blood at QB. But not if they're trading up in the 2nd.
1) Rattler is seen by a few folks as a viable option at QB this year, ahead of some of the top 4 guys.
2) Some folks have Penix rated up in the top 3 options ahead of JJM, Nix, Maye..
3) Pratt and Travis both could go earlier than many think.
4) I have seen a few folks who feel Nix is better than JJM, Penix, Maye...
I think because the bulk of these QB's are seen as "close" you will see very different rankings based on where your team is at. Minnesota has weapons across both sides of the offense and at TE. They could use a guy who is polished, makes the right reads and can get the ball out quickly..
New England needs a guy who can run a new offense, with a collection of guys who are new to the system as well and is a guy to learn behind Brisset.
NY Giants are looking for a guy who CAN be the reason we win games and not just a guy you can manufacture wins with. Our lost of QB's might be very different than NE, Minn and even Denver..
I could see 6 QB's going rd1..
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In any round but the 1st is half assing it. No thank you.
What if Round 1 is not possible?
Then we’re fucked. Gotta hope someone emerges in the shitty 2025 class. Or look to 2026. Schoen and Daboll will probably be long gone by then…
Can we please stop referencing TB12 when talking about QBs being picked late & then becoming great? That's like a asteroid/dinosaur extinction like event: it ain't happening too often.
Not the BBI way.
Beatings will continue until morale improves
Emory Hunt-April 2022
(Corbin would go undrafted and would later sign as an UDFA with the Giants)
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DJs stats crush his....
We're sorry for your loss.
Sorry to add this but- Lock is a Lock! To start 2024😉
Emory Hunt-April 2022
(Corbin would go undrafted and would later sign as an UDFA with the Giants)
Well, maybe this year Corbin gets some regular season touches.
I can't take anyones opinion seriously if they think Spencer Rattler is a top 6 QB in this Draft let alone top 3. He's not a good QB. There's a reason Sy calls him an NFL backup.
they should not force a pick. They should only draft a QB that they believe can become a franchise QB.
The worst thing that they can do is to overdraft a player and pass on a potential star at another position.
Some would say that is what they did with DJ. You cannot repeat that error.
The Giants are in a rebuilding process and it cannot happen in one year. They will have to obtain a quality starting QB but you cannot wish it to happen and they should not waste draft capital hoping that a second-tier player will be that player.
If the Giants can build a solid team they will find a way to acquire a QB.
Whether through free agency, a trade, or the draft.
Some may not like it but Dak Prescott is better than any option in the draft and he will be available next year.
The Giants would be a perennial contender if they used their draft resources to build a dominant defense and an offense led by Dak.
Some believe that Dak is overrated and overpaid, and that may be true, but he is a top-10 QB and you can win with him.
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I’ll never understand the love for him. Especially as a second round pick.
It's honestly mindblowing. He is not a good QB.
He had 22 TD passes & 2 INTs at South Carolina game in only 6 games. These were his opponents and their defensive ranking.
2022 Vanderbilt - 125 out of 131
2022 Tennessee - 36 out of 131
2023 Furman - Unranked
2023 Miss State - 68 out of 133
2023 Vanderbilt - 129 out of 133
2023 UF Gators - 78 out of 133
So he had a handful of good games against terrible defenses outside of Tennesse. In the 19 other games he played at South Carolina he had 15 TDs & 18 INTs.
He played 8 games against top 50 ranked defenses. Georgia, Texas A&M, Clemson, Notre Dame & Missouri. Here are the numbers for those games
He completed 55% of his passes for 1648 yards with 5 TDs & 10 INTs
Lock failed under 2 head coaches and lost out to Geno Smith. That to me spells career backup or low end starter. Not many QBs bounce around and suddenly become a top 15 QB. If Lock is starting it’s not going to help this team progress. He is a short term stop gap.
Taylor is also not a starting caliber player. He is a low end starter / high end backup.
It’s ok if you don’t like Jones, but let’s not make it like Lock is an improvement. He was still going to be a backup in Seattle. Whether the Giants offered him the opportunity to compete is another story. I hope that he and DJ do compete in camp to see who the starter is so we don’t have to hear it all season. I’m all for letting the best player play regardless of salary.
We are also probably not cutting Jones when he is healthy. We are somewhat tight against the cap and his $47 mil is sunk whether he plays or not but we will have to replace him with another QB so cutting him actually costs more than keeping him.
Half assing it?
Brady was just short of half assing it to the Super Bowl (10 times in 21 seasons).
2) I am all for a QB change, but the reality is Lock is only starting if Jones is not physically healthy enough to start the season.
3) I don't love Lock, but how exactly do Jones' stats blow him away?
I could not agree more. That injury clause is fucking brutal
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In any round but the 1st is half assing it. No thank you.
Half assing it?
Brady was just short of half assing it to the Super Bowl (10 times in 21 seasons).
Jones would make an adequate back-up QB. He's not a starter, and he's not a franchise QB.
Schoen and Daboll are in year 3. They had a good year 1, Year 2 was problematic - this is a critical year. They will play whoever gives them the best chance to win.
Didn’t BBI run him off a few years ago?
Broken clock
This is where I'm at as well. Have it be an open competition and if Lock wins, he wins - you don't start Jones if Lock is playing better.