Then throughout the off-season I kept reading how fast JJ can process the defense. After what we've had for the past few seasons I've convinced myself I want JJM
Always has been. You can see glimpses of Justin Herbert/ Josh Allen like abilities. Consistency needs work obviously and if they do get him aI hope he can sit at least most of the year. JJM is just to much projection for me, I haven’t seen him do anything that has really wowed me in a game. I think the success on both of these guys is largely going to depend on the coaching they get and situation they find theme selves in at the next level. Neither can be forced to start right away, both will suffer and maybe fail if they have to.
He possesses the clutch gene, I’m more confident about what’s between his ears more than any other prospect. He’s been expected to win his entire life and has done exactly that. UNC qb’s haven’t translated, yes, I know the same could be said about OSU (Stroud proved that wrong this year). Overall, im much more confident in JJ.
McCarthy was held back a bit in the offense but he also had a very strong supporting cast.
Was watching Derrick Henry get interviewed re: difference between college and pros and he said there was no comparison. Said SEC was probably the closest - so, if I had to pick, I'd probably want to look at just passing plays against SEC teams.
Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
Ever since Harbaugh said JJ had the greatest pro-day ever, he should be everybody’s top choice. No question.
There is a video from the LAC where it shows Harbaugh at the Michigan pro day, and you hear the magic words.
I think he says it to his dad, too. It was like they were at a revival meeting...
Sounds familiar.
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sxdxca : 3/22/2018 1:28 am
"Darnold had one of the best pro days I've ever seen".....
[Joel Klatt Fox Sports]:
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I got to tell you, it was a little bit Roy Hobbs-esque. You know what I mean? I mean, it was a little bit "The Natural" because it started raining very heavily right when Sam started to throw and he did not flinch at all."
"He had one of the most, I would say, best pro days I've seen in a long time. And in large part due to the rain because Colin, here's the thing, these pro days, there's no adversity for all these guys. I've gone around and seen all of them, I even went to Fargo, North Dakota to see your boy, Carson Wentz, there is no adversity for these quarterbacks on their pro days."
"And then all of a sudden, here we get to USC, it never rains in California and there is a torrential rain storm. And Sam Darnold wanted this, he was praying for rain so that he could have some level of adversity and go out there and show the NFL community that he can throw the ball when it's wet, when the conditions are inclement. And he was fantastic, he was ripping it, man."
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It's now making sense to me why the Giants are rumored to be wanting to trade up with Cleveland.
In my opinion after seeing Darnold at his pro day , (which I saw the video by the way) , he was so impressive , the Giants realize he's the best player in this draft , and he is going to be a Hall Of Fame QB and star.
Unfortunately , I don't think the Browns will trade with the Giants , there's no way Cleveland lets this guy go.
But I'd be shocked if NE doesn't take him. I like JJM a lot too, but I don't think the raw skills are quite the same level, but he might be the more cerebral of the two.
I’m pulling for McCarthy—I like his energy and experience coming from Michigan. However, I won’t be upset if it’s Maye, I trust Schoen and Dabes to make the right choice.
In comment 16478416 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
In comment 16478416 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
So as of January 10th 2024 or so you believe there were teams that had JJ McCarthy ahead of Maye?
In comment 16478455 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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In comment 16478444 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16478416 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
So as of January 10th 2024 or so you believe there were teams that had JJ McCarthy ahead of Maye?
Not what I said. What I said was Maye didn't help himself this year and left the window open to not only fall behikd Williams but also let Daniels pass him too. Now you have McCarthy win a championship and kill the interviews. It is Maye sliding back from where people thought he would have been just as much as McCarthy improving his stock. As Sy and many others like Phil Simms said, at first glance nobody thought McCarthy was that high but after really breaking down the video, he changed a lot of minds. Then you have Maye with some really good video but also some really bad video of missing wide open receivers and having shitty mechanics. It scares teams off.
But what's important is that the Giants are last try to address the position.
I can't evaluate myself, so I have to rely on people who know better than I do.
There is a video from the LAC where it shows Harbaugh at the Michigan pro day, and you hear the magic words.
I think he says it to his dad, too. It was like they were at a revival meeting...
I’m still convinced Penix will be a star.
McCarthy = Harbaugh, not good enough
McCarthy was held back a bit in the offense but he also had a very strong supporting cast.
Was watching Derrick Henry get interviewed re: difference between college and pros and he said there was no comparison. Said SEC was probably the closest - so, if I had to pick, I'd probably want to look at just passing plays against SEC teams.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
To answer your question
Maye.
Totally agree if those are the choices.
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Totally agree if those are the choices.
I rather have neither!!!
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Ever since Harbaugh said JJ had the greatest pro-day ever, he should be everybody’s top choice. No question.
There is a video from the LAC where it shows Harbaugh at the Michigan pro day, and you hear the magic words.
I think he says it to his dad, too. It was like they were at a revival meeting...
Sounds familiar.
Archived Thread
sxdxca : 3/22/2018 1:28 am
"Darnold had one of the best pro days I've ever seen".....
[Joel Klatt Fox Sports]:
"He had one of the most, I would say, best pro days I've seen in a long time. And in large part due to the rain because Colin, here's the thing, these pro days, there's no adversity for all these guys. I've gone around and seen all of them, I even went to Fargo, North Dakota to see your boy, Carson Wentz, there is no adversity for these quarterbacks on their pro days."
"And then all of a sudden, here we get to USC, it never rains in California and there is a torrential rain storm. And Sam Darnold wanted this, he was praying for rain so that he could have some level of adversity and go out there and show the NFL community that he can throw the ball when it's wet, when the conditions are inclement. And he was fantastic, he was ripping it, man."
[OP adds]:
In my opinion after seeing Darnold at his pro day , (which I saw the video by the way) , he was so impressive , the Giants realize he's the best player in this draft , and he is going to be a Hall Of Fame QB and star.
Unfortunately , I don't think the Browns will trade with the Giants , there's no way Cleveland lets this guy go.
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Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
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Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
So as of January 10th 2024 or so you believe there were teams that had JJ McCarthy ahead of Maye?
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In comment 16478416 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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Maye was a consensus 1A to Caleb all year. What has he done to drop behind a guy like JJMcCarthy since January? Nothing.
Do you think teams dont evaluate 365 days a year? It's all media driven nonsense.
Maye is the prize. Schoen knows it. Filter the BS Schoen has been all over Maye since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ is available for the vikings broncos or raiders without a trade up.
I feel this isn't really accurate. Going into the season Maye was high but as the college year went on he didn't help himself especially with Daniels having an unreal year. I wouldn't say he hurt himeself but nothing he did this year or this offseason helped him.
So as of January 10th 2024 or so you believe there were teams that had JJ McCarthy ahead of Maye?
Not what I said. What I said was Maye didn't help himself this year and left the window open to not only fall behikd Williams but also let Daniels pass him too. Now you have McCarthy win a championship and kill the interviews. It is Maye sliding back from where people thought he would have been just as much as McCarthy improving his stock. As Sy and many others like Phil Simms said, at first glance nobody thought McCarthy was that high but after really breaking down the video, he changed a lot of minds. Then you have Maye with some really good video but also some really bad video of missing wide open receivers and having shitty mechanics. It scares teams off.