I don't buy the trade down talk (Beane and Schoen history)

not to go off on a tangent, but we shouldn't expect to stand pat in other rounds. And Schoen specifically mentioned moving around in other rounds too in his presser.

I still have a hard time seeing Schoen being happy with only six (or fewer picks) unless it is for a QB.

to try and obtain more picks, but I don't seem him trading back from 6.

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agree that trading down from #6 is the least likely of all the options. The Giants seem much more likely to trade up or stand pat, but trading down wouldn't stun me. Schoen said that he traded down in 2022 because salary cap constraints severely limited what he could do in FA. Many of those constraints were gone last year. But I do think he'd be willing to "auction" pick #6 if someone was willing to give up a haul to move up. I also agree with Eric that there is a good chance we move down in rounds two or three to get extra picks if we don't do so in round one. That could be a good compromise between moving off of a potentially elite player at #6 and getting one or two more picks.

If nothing else, Schoen has seemed super aggressive in wheeling and dealing during the drafts.

At the 6 spot, the Giants are guaranteed a top 4 QB or one of MHJ/Nabers. The teams more likely to trade down are the ones that need defensive help (ATL, Chicago at 9)

Schoen views each draft for what it is.

And drafts accordingly.

If the Giants do not draft a QB this year, Do you think its possible they draft one next year?

We are picking 6 this year and did not get the QB we wanted (since we are working inside this example)

So in order for us to get the best shot a QB next year it will cost draft picks.

The best way to get those draft picks would be trade down from 6th where other teams are possibly starving for the QB you are not picking or the Blue Chip WR that you could take.

But a trade is surely within good reasoning.

I would argue that good WRs come out every year, and you cant find them in the second round almost as much as the first.

QB that is not the case, so therefore getting draft picks is more necessary than the WR.

In comment 16479150 SteelGiant said:

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If the Giants do not draft a QB this year, Do you think its possible they draft one next year? We are picking 6 this year and did not get the QB we wanted (since we are working inside this example) So in order for us to get the best shot a QB next year it will cost draft picks. The best way to get those draft picks would be trade down from 6th where other teams are possibly starving for the QB you are not picking or the Blue Chip WR that you could take. But a trade is surely within good reasoning. I would argue that good WRs come out every year, and you cant find them in the second round almost as much as the first. QB that is not the case, so therefore getting draft picks is more necessary than the WR.

sorry I had to fix my typo:
I would argue that good WRs come out every year, and you cant (CAN) find them in the second round almost as much as the first.

but maybe im falling for the smoke screen as intended.

this historical argument is pretty compelling and we know in 2022 their plan A was 2 of the 6 players they liked.

at #6 in a draft with 7 (or 8 counting alt) players routinely considered top 5 worthy, the mostly scenarios are probably getting 1 of those players.

In comment 16479160 Eric on Li said:

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but maybe im falling for the smoke screen as intended. this historical argument is pretty compelling and we know in 2022 their plan A was 2 of the 6 players they liked. at #6 in a draft with 7 (or 8 counting alt) players routinely considered top 5 worthy, the mostly scenarios are probably getting 1 of those players.

Yup. As I said above, I can certainly see Schoen wheeling and dealing in the later rounds to acquire more swings of the bat, like he did in 2022, but I can't see him trading out of 6 and losing out on either A. A QB or B. A blue chip WR. Who knows how they have the QB's graded, but they've obviously done their due diligence and spent a good deal of time on both Maye and McCarthy.