worked the draft like some of our NFC East rivals have successfully done (Roseman, Jimmy Johnson)?
You know trade up, trade down, accumulate picks, Hershel Walker fleecing, etc.
I don't remember the Giants really working the draft, mostly standing pat and drafting whoever was available at the time.
Schoen has worked the draft.....but not as well as Roseman.
Now, actually drafting Roseman has had mixed results.....the Baltimore Ravens draft better than anyone, imo.
Schoen has worked the draft.....but not as well as Roseman.
Now, actually drafting Roseman has had mixed results.....the Baltimore Ravens draft better than anyone, imo.
Agreed, I think the Ravens do a great job.
* Traded back in the second twice
* Traded Toney for two picks
Year 2:
* Traded picks for Darren Waller
* Traded picks to move up for Banks
* Traded picks to move up for Hyatt
* Traded a pick for Simmons
* Traded a pick for Basham
Year 3:
* Traded Williams for two picks
* Traded picks for Burns
* Traded back in the second twice
* Traded Toney for two picks
Year 2:
* Traded picks for Darren Waller
* Traded picks to move up for Banks
* Traded picks to move up for Hyatt
* Traded a pick for Simmons
* Traded a pick for Basham
Year 3:
* Traded Williams for two picks
* Traded picks for Burns
This.
But the results need to be better.
Agreed. I think Burns and Thibs (assuming they stay healthy) will become one of the better pass rushing duo’s in the NFL. Thibs has a lot of untapped potential in his game and I hope Burns can help him tap into it.
True... we already have a great draft because of Burns. To get a Pro Bowl type Edge rusher is a huge get. You have to add that to this years draft class.
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Might have won more if they had saved the draft capital and kept Rivers (or Roethlisberger).
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Then before inked swapped for two Lombardis from Eli….not too bad.
Might have won more if they had saved the draft capital and kept Rivers (or Roethlisberger).
Neither of those two would've won with the 2011 Giants' offensive line.
Second, if we had kept the first rounder, we probably don't have the cap room to sign all 3 of Burress, McKenzie, and Pierce, which means the 2007 Superbowl is out.
Not to mention with that first rounder, the draft plays out differently and we probably don't draft Webster, Tuck, and Jacobs.
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Then before inked swapped for two Lombardis from Eli….not too bad.
Might have won more if they had saved the draft capital and kept Rivers (or Roethlisberger).
Roethlisberger addendum: Also Roethlisberger would've ended up behind bars if he had come to NY.
And in his normal pompous fashion he laughed it off as everybody just being overly critical of him and that he knew more than anybody.
So then in true moron fashion, right after the criticism, he foolishly trades down and winds up with an idiot troublemaker like Kadarius Toney versus staying pat and taking Parsons or Slater. Almost as if he succumbed to the criticism and pressure for not doing it ever in his career, stepping in sh_t once again with his poor decision making.
Their hypothesis?
Teams overestimate their abilities to delineate between stars and flops, and because of that they overvalue the “right to choose” in the draft.
And what were the findings after examining every draft pick and trade from 1988 to 2004?
Teams massively overestimate their abilities to delineate between stars and flops, and because of that they heavily overvalue the “right to choose” in the draft.
Meers combed through the paper and uncovered some highlights:
The treasured No. 1 pick in the draft is actually the least valuable in the first round, according to the surplus value a team can create with each pick.
Across all rounds, the probability that a player starts more games than the next player chosen at his position is just 53 percent.
Teams generated a 174 percent return on trades by forgoing a pick this year for picks next year.
Thaler and Massey suggested that teams should accumulate picks by trading back and into the future more often. The more darts you have, the better your chance of eventually hitting the bull’s-eye.
The Pats used to do that all the time in the height of the Belichick/Brady era. It was like BB liked having two 2s more than having a 1.
Before that, Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys played the draft like a violin.
As for the Giants, Schoen seems more receptive to moving than most of the past GMs. And the more picks he has, the more he seems willing to trade them.
Hard to make the moves when you only have 6 or 7 picks to play with. That's part of why I don't believe the Giants will trade UP this draft.
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