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SicilianGMEN : 4/22/2024 6:44 pm
It's 45 mins before gametime and no one's started a game thread yet? What kinda Knicks fans are youse? LET MF GO KNICKS!
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RE: RE: by the way  
shyster : 4/23/2024 11:54 am : link
In comment 16481521 shyster said:
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In comment 16480978 nygiants16 said:


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Lebron can go away now, calling the game rigged after his team blew a 20 point lead and then saying he watched the end of Sixers vs Knicks and it proves his point..

Go away dude, your team is not good enough, the refs had nothing to do with you blowing a 20 point lead



He never called the game rigged or anything close to those words. He complained about the replay overturn on the Russell play, which was debatable.

Then said he watched the end of the Knicks game and "What are we doing?", nothing more specific.

The complaint was to the competence of the calls (or non-calls) with no suggestion of dishonest intention.

You can criticize him for even going there, but that's it.
entire interview - ( New Window )


As follow up, since he was specifically criticizing the replay center, his reference to the Knicks game could have been about the overturn that went in the Sixers favor.
RE: The  
djm : 4/23/2024 12:03 pm : link
In comment 16481537 DanMetroMan said:
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supposed ceiling is *probably* capped with Julius unavailable but it sure is nice how different players have stepped up over the 2 games. Brunson sure is lucky his worst back to back games of the season (coming in the playoffs no less) = Knicks still up 2-0.

-Not looking too far ahead to the off-season but will be interesting to see how they look to add some more scoring, while still adding a player/players who fit the Knicks culture/system.

-Interested to see what happens with Rokas. He's going to play in SL again this year but has offers to remain in Europe with the expectation he plays in Latvia next season if the Knicks don't bring him over.


Yep Rokas is very intriguing but also a total mystery. Good to know the Knicks have all the flexibility needed. So many good contracts and all those picks. If the legendary(or borderline) player is available we will get him. Comforting.
Calling timeout before the inbounds is not an obvious way to go  
shyster : 4/23/2024 12:11 pm : link
in that situation because it gives the defense a chance to set up. We've all seen the Knicks struggle mightily to get the ball inbounds against a set defense.

That's why Nurse initially hesitated about calling the timeout. He was hoping they would get the ball in quickly and the Knicks would have to foul.

Barkley said after the game that you want to call time to get the ball to half court. That's certainly true if there are only a couple of seconds (or less) left, but with a ton of time remaining, as it was, not so clear.
RE: RE: RE: by the way  
Stu11 : 4/23/2024 12:11 pm : link
In comment 16481545 shyster said:
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As follow up, since he was specifically criticizing the replay center, his reference to the Knicks game could have been about the overturn that went in the Sixers favor.

I thought this same exact thing. There's no way he had watched the last frantic few minutes of the Knicks game because they started there game immediately after. Because replay was the issue and the Lowry play happened about 15 minutes earlier he easily could have been referring to that.
What  
DanMetroMan : 4/23/2024 12:16 pm : link
do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"
RE: RE: RE: RE: by the way  
shyster : 4/23/2024 12:20 pm : link
In comment 16481578 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16481545 shyster said:


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As follow up, since he was specifically criticizing the replay center, his reference to the Knicks game could have been about the overturn that went in the Sixers favor.


I thought this same exact thing. There's no way he had watched the last frantic few minutes of the Knicks game because they started there game immediately after. Because replay was the issue and the Lowry play happened about 15 minutes earlier he easily could have been referring to that.


Thanks, I had that same thought about timing but wasn't sure when Lakers-Nuggets had started.
RE: RE: by the way  
jestersdead : 4/23/2024 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16481521 shyster said:
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In comment 16480978 nygiants16 said:


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Lebron can go away now, calling the game rigged after his team blew a 20 point lead and then saying he watched the end of Sixers vs Knicks and it proves his point..

Go away dude, your team is not good enough, the refs had nothing to do with you blowing a 20 point lead



He never called the game rigged or anything close to those words. He complained about the replay overturn on the Russell play, which was debatable.

Then said he watched the end of the Knicks game and "What are we doing?", nothing more specific.

The complaint was to the competence of the calls (or non-calls) with no suggestion of dishonest intention.

You can criticize him for even going there, but that's it.
entire interview - ( New Window )

He's complaining b/c they didn't get a call. I guess he's not happy with a +500 free throw differential on the year and feels they are entitled to more FTs going forward.

How about you don't blow a 15 point lead for the second game in a row. There is no standard to a foul being called or not, just like holding is subjective to the official in the NFL.
One positive on Brunson  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 12:25 pm : link
Game 1 and the 1st half of game 2 he was bottled up, forcing shots and not really getting good looks..

In the second half he started seeing some daylight, i dont know if the Sixers changed up a little to get a body on Hart and try to stop his 3 point shooting rebounding, but Brunson started getting better looks and looks he usually makes..he was still 4 of 15 but he also had 5 asissts in that second half...

It could be a good sign he started finding more daylight
RE: What  
Enzo : 4/23/2024 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16481593 DanMetroMan said:
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do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"

Need to know how far it takes them into the tax/apron to keep him and re-sign OG and iHart. If the tax/apron rules were not an issue it would be a no brainer.
RE: What  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 12:26 pm : link
In comment 16481593 DanMetroMan said:
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do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"


His contract is a cap filler, he will either be traded at the draft or his contracted will be guaranteed
RE: RE: What  
larryflower37 : 4/23/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16481612 nygiants16 said:
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do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"



His contract is a cap filler, he will either be traded at the draft or his contracted will be guaranteed

This
The Knicks were looking for guys with 2 year deals so they could have guys for filler/trade value next season.
Front office has been very smart about their approach.
RE: RE: What  
Jan in DC : 4/23/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16481612 nygiants16 said:
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do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"



His contract is a cap filler, he will either be traded at the draft or his contracted will be guaranteed


I think at this point the only other salary on the team that could be moved with Bojan is Randle. I guess Mitch, if you resign Hartenstein. It's going to be a real interesting offseason, hopefully we don't have to think about that for a while though.
RE: One positive on Brunson  
larryflower37 : 4/23/2024 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16481609 nygiants16 said:
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Game 1 and the 1st half of game 2 he was bottled up, forcing shots and not really getting good looks..

In the second half he started seeing some daylight, i dont know if the Sixers changed up a little to get a body on Hart and try to stop his 3 point shooting rebounding, but Brunson started getting better looks and looks he usually makes..he was still 4 of 15 but he also had 5 asissts in that second half...

It could be a good sign he started finding more daylight

Brunson missed a ton of shots he has made all year, that's why I think this is temporary.
They have taken Away his pivot game and they are blocking his shots from behind obviously something they saw that they could take advantage of.
Fairly confident as of now Mitchell  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2024 12:47 pm : link
Is a Knick this summer if the Cavs deal him
RE: Fairly confident as of now Mitchell  
Enzo : 4/23/2024 12:53 pm : link
In comment 16481656 ajr2456 said:
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Is a Knick this summer if the Cavs deal him

I initially had my doubts about a potential Brunson/Mitchell backcourt but I think I'd go for it. He raises the ceiling and I think both guys are smart enough to make it work. But who do we give up? I'm guessing BB + McBride + picks is not gonna cut it, lol. And why wouldn't they demand guys we don't want to trade (DD, Hart)? I guess you can talk about Randle and Mitch - but they're obviously set with bigs so it would have to be a multi-team deal. And they're not gonna want "assets". I think they'd want to pivot and still remain competitive.
RE: What  
djm : 4/23/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16481593 DanMetroMan said:
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do we think they do with Bojan?

"$2,000,000 guaranteed, fully guaranteed late 6/28/24"


Keep him. OR use him as a trade chip but in no way do I think they let him walk.
RE: RE: Fairly confident as of now Mitchell  
larryflower37 : 4/23/2024 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16481672 Enzo said:
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Is a Knick this summer if the Cavs deal him


I initially had my doubts about a potential Brunson/Mitchell backcourt but I think I'd go for it. He raises the ceiling and I think both guys are smart enough to make it work. But who do we give up? I'm guessing BB + McBride + picks is not gonna cut it, lol. And why wouldn't they demand guys we don't want to trade (DD, Hart)? I guess you can talk about Randle and Mitch - but they're obviously set with bigs so it would have to be a multi-team deal. And they're not gonna want "assets". I think they'd want to pivot and still remain competitive.

If they want Randle, Bogs and picks?
The small lineup has worked so if you get another legit scorer it would really open up Brunson.
OG at the 4 hart at the 3.
RE: RE: One positive on Brunson  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16481654 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 16481609 nygiants16 said:


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Game 1 and the 1st half of game 2 he was bottled up, forcing shots and not really getting good looks..

In the second half he started seeing some daylight, i dont know if the Sixers changed up a little to get a body on Hart and try to stop his 3 point shooting rebounding, but Brunson started getting better looks and looks he usually makes..he was still 4 of 15 but he also had 5 asissts in that second half...

It could be a good sign he started finding more daylight


Brunson missed a ton of shots he has made all year, that's why I think this is temporary.
They have taken Away his pivot game and they are blocking his shots from behind obviously something they saw that they could take advantage of.


Yeah they are basically having the on ball defender co tinue to chase after being screened and then they help off Hart and Embiid standing in the middle of the court, basicall 3 guys guarding him...

in the 2nd half they tried not to help off of Hart as much
Josh Hart just posted a video to his stories  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 1:24 pm : link
its him and Brunson are celebrating after the win and zbrunson you can see is pissed he cant make a shot and Hart hands him a ball says go shoot it...Brunson oulls up at the 3 point line and drains it and you can see Brjnson ok i can do this
RE: RE: Fairly confident as of now Mitchell  
Stu11 : 4/23/2024 2:14 pm : link
In comment 16481672 Enzo said:
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Is a Knick this summer if the Cavs deal him


I initially had my doubts about a potential Brunson/Mitchell backcourt but I think I'd go for it. He raises the ceiling and I think both guys are smart enough to make it work. But who do we give up? I'm guessing BB + McBride + picks is not gonna cut it, lol. And why wouldn't they demand guys we don't want to trade (DD, Hart)? I guess you can talk about Randle and Mitch - but they're obviously set with bigs so it would have to be a multi-team deal. And they're not gonna want "assets". I think they'd want to pivot and still remain competitive.

I don't know it bothers me how much time DM missed this year because of the knee. I'd really check that out before making any move. I still think there could be life to the concept of a 3-way between us, the Cavs and Nets with Bridges to us and DM to the Nets with Randle and picks involved.
RE: This is one of those mornings where Twitter  
Del Shofner : 4/23/2024 2:18 pm : link
In comment 16481427 Stu11 said:
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is one of the greatest things on earth. Another clip. This time of the Knicks radio booth. Gotta love Monica she is all of us! Link - ( New Window )


Her facial expressions leading up to when she starts talking are just classic.
RE: RE: This is one of those mornings where Twitter  
Stu11 : 4/23/2024 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16481872 Del Shofner said:
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is one of the greatest things on earth. Another clip. This time of the Knicks radio booth. Gotta love Monica she is all of us! Link - ( New Window )



Her facial expressions leading up to when she starts talking are just classic.

Right? like having watched the play you can watch that clip with the sound off and you can tell exactly whats happening by her facial expressions.
yea I haven't done much work today  
djm : 4/23/2024 2:34 pm : link
to be fair things are a bit quiet so I am not avoiding work, but I am just fine living in Knicks fantasy land for most of the day. And we get NYR game 2 tonight.

I appreciate the extra day of rest for the Knicks but wish they weren't playing on Thursday. As we know it's draft night. Kind of hard to watch both even with the DVR. Not to mention my 10 year old has some kind of concert at school that ends around 8. Get home and put that DVR to the test...
at least the Rangers aren't on Thursday too  
djm : 4/23/2024 2:35 pm : link
they play tonight and then again on Friday.

Putting the Knicks and Rangers on at the same time is bad enough. Adding in the draft would be sadistic.
Donte gave us his evil Donte impersonation after making that shot  
fredgbrown : 4/23/2024 2:52 pm : link
....
ESPN should replace Doris Burke with Monica McNutt yesterday.  
bceagle05 : 4/23/2024 3:25 pm : link
She’d be a massive upgrade.
RE: Brunson  
Chris684 : 4/23/2024 3:36 pm : link
Philly deserves some credit for their gameplan. They are running all kinds of length at him in the form of Batum, Oubre and Harris. When he does break down the D and get into the paint, there's obviously the presence of Embiid to deal with which has been disruptive to Brunson's crafty moves inside the paint. I think the rest of it (shooting, turnovers) is just a product of how unbelievably hard he's having to work.

I don't worry about Brunson though. Like I said, credit to Philly. Even with all that, JB still getting to the stripe and still hit the 2nd biggest shot of the night last night.
I  
DanMetroMan : 4/23/2024 3:40 pm : link
live on the same block as a barber shop, on the way to work today I heard one barber say to the other "don't tell me what happened in the Knick game, I'm watching the second half later". How do people #1 have that kind of self control #2 avoid the results!
RE: I  
aimrocky : 4/23/2024 4:06 pm : link
In comment 16481997 DanMetroMan said:
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live on the same block as a barber shop, on the way to work today I heard one barber say to the other "don't tell me what happened in the Knick game, I'm watching the second half later". How do people #1 have that kind of self control #2 avoid the results!


Last year I was in Florida for game 1 of the Cavs series. We had dinner reservations during the game so I DVR’d it. We made it until the very end of dinner without hearing what happened, then a group of guys sitting next to us saw my son’s Ewing jersey and said “oh, a Knicks fan. Nice win tonight!” I immediately put my face in my hands and thanked him.
RE: ESPN should replace Doris Burke with Monica McNutt yesterday.  
JT039 : 4/23/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16481974 bceagle05 said:
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She’d be a massive upgrade.


No one is worse than Reggie Miller.
RE: RE: This is one of those mornings where Twitter  
bluefin : 4/23/2024 6:30 pm : link
In comment 16481872 Del Shofner said:
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is one of the greatest things on earth. Another clip. This time of the Knicks radio booth. Gotta love Monica she is all of us! Link - ( New Window )



Her facial expressions leading up to when she starts talking are just classic.

+1, oh that was legendary, great call by Pat, too
2 minute report not kind to 76ers  
JT039 : 4/23/2024 7:03 pm : link
Said Maxey was fouled twice. Nurrse was ignored of a TO as well.

Get ready for Embiid to get to the foul line 20 times next game. The only question is who is going to fuck the Knicks. Tony Brothers or Scott Foster.
Why does shaq hate the Knicks so much?  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 7:14 pm : link
Basically implied the refs didnt call the foul because its good for the league the Knicks win and said Sixers lost the game because of that 1 missed call...

Then made a comment only the Knicks were allowed to be physical, dude really doesnt watch the games does he?
RE: Why does shaq hate the Knicks so much?  
steve in ky : 4/23/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16482250 nygiants16 said:
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Basically implied the refs didnt call the foul because its good for the league the Knicks win and said Sixers lost the game because of that 1 missed call...

Then made a comment only the Knicks were allowed to be physical, dude really doesnt watch the games does he?


If the Knicks gave Embid a dirty look they called a foul. On the other hand Brunson never seems to get any star treatment and gets mugged constantly
RE: RE: Why does shaq hate the Knicks so much?  
nygiants16 : 4/23/2024 7:30 pm : link
In comment 16482264 steve in ky said:
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In comment 16482250 nygiants16 said:


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Basically implied the refs didnt call the foul because its good for the league the Knicks win and said Sixers lost the game because of that 1 missed call...

Then made a comment only the Knicks were allowed to be physical, dude really doesnt watch the games does he?



If the Knicks gave Embid a dirty look they called a foul. On the other hand Brunson never seems to get any star treatment and gets mugged constantly


The other day he laughed at the thiugh of Brunson being top 5 saying he doesnt deserve it
RE: 2 minute report not kind to 76ers  
CooperDash : 4/23/2024 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16482236 JT039 said:
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Said Maxey was fouled twice. Nurrse was ignored of a TO as well.

Get ready for Embiid to get to the foul line 20 times next game. The only question is who is going to fuck the Knicks. Tony Brothers or Scott Foster.


I wish they would do a report for the entire game and talk about how the sixers fouled Brunson and the Knicks on nearly EVERY inbounds pass.

I expect a full screw job by the refs on Thursday. This is the plan for the sixers, anyway.
Sixers Inbounding Groping - ( New Window )
Fuck em all  
larryflower37 : 4/23/2024 8:56 pm : link
No one but NY believes in this team.
Brunson is going to go off on Thursday.
Shaq adds nothing to the TNT show.  
bceagle05 : 4/23/2024 9:44 pm : link
I think it was much better when it was just Kenny, Chuck and Ernie.
Have some round 2 tickets for sale  
ajr2456 : 4/23/2024 9:53 pm : link
For if anyone wants to get my email from Eric
RE: Fuck em all  
Ira : 4/23/2024 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16482361 larryflower37 said:
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No one but NY believes in this team.
Brunson is going to go off on Thursday.


I hope so. We need Brunson's A game to beat them in their place.
Maxey pushed off Hart before Brunson grabbed him  
Greg from LI : 4/23/2024 10:06 pm : link
So they can fuck right off
RE: Maxey pushed off Hart before Brunson grabbed him  
Crispino : 4/23/2024 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16482436 Greg from LI said:
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So they can fuck right off


The league admitted they missed the push off. That happened first, and should have ended the play and given the Knicks the ball . That missed call, if made, would make any discussion as to whether Josh or Jalen fouled Maxey moot. So Philly can suck it with their “we got screwed” whining.
Indy blowing out Milwaukee in Game 2.  
bceagle05 : 4/23/2024 10:44 pm : link
Might have a series on our hands.

Minny beat Phoenix again - up 2-0 in the series.
Shaq is only interested in Shaq  
djm : 4/23/2024 10:46 pm : link
That Ego of his is only thing bigger than his big giant fat assed head. Shaq’s brand first, legit commentary with actual substance a distant second. The next valid and interesting point Shaq makes will be his first. Go mumble about bullshit there diesel. Dude offers nothing.

Honestly after last night the league has lost a lot of credibility  
Stu11 : 4/24/2024 12:00 am : link
With these "2 minute reports" are they the same people that are reviewing the replay challenges back in Secaucus? I mean anyone that can look at the Lowry and Dlo replays and deam them "marginal contact" can't really be trusted on their judgement for these reports.
Luka whines more than Nick Nurse.  
bceagle05 : 4/24/2024 12:39 am : link
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Since we're going back in time and doing these last 2 min reports  
Heisenberg : 4/24/2024 8:26 am : link
I'd like to go back in time to 1995 when Reggie Miller clearly pushed Greg Anthony to the ground when he "stole" the ball in the middle of scoring 8 pts in 9 seconds and nipping the Knicks in game 1 of the ECF.
McNutt better than Burke??  
Kmed6000 : 4/24/2024 8:50 am : link
As if your daily stupid takes can't get stupider. McNutt is like nails on a chalkboard.

Burke is annoying this series, but shes usually great. Very knowledgeable.
RE: ESPN should replace Doris Burke with Monica McNutt yesterday.  
Dr. D : 4/24/2024 9:16 am : link
In comment 16481974 bceagle05 said:
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She’d be a massive upgrade.

Yeah, there's something about Doris.

This past Sat., I had the Cleveland Magic game on. Wasn't watching closely, but I could've sworn Doris was doing the game, so I muted it. Then later in the day, I put on the Knicks game and Doris is doing the game.

So I was wondering did espn fly Doris from Cleveland to NY so she could do both games or do they have someone else that sounds like Doris?

Does espn think they need someone that sounds like Doris do every game? One Doris doing games is too many!
I fall into the Doris Burke is awful camp  
steve in ky : 4/24/2024 9:16 am : link
I hate when she calls a game I’m watching.

I’m not a big McNutt fan but she adds much more than Doris ever does and she’s actually growing on me
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