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Adam Schefter tampering penalties possibly this week

Archer : 4/23/2024 9:39 am

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According to ESPN insider Adam Schefter, the league could conclude its investigation and hand down the punishment as early as this week, which would come right in time to affect the first round of the NFL draft. There is precedent for the league to impact a team’s draft picks in tampering cases, as we saw just last season.

The Miami Dolphins were forced to forfeit their first-round pick in last year’s draft, along with a third-round pick in this year’s draft, in two separate tampering cases involving former Patriots and Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady and former Saints, now Broncos, head coach Sean Payton.

Before that, the league stripped the Kansas City Chiefs of a third-round pick in 2016 and a sixth-round selection in 2017 for their tampering with former Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin in 2015.

In both cases, members of the coaching staff and/or front office personnel received fines in addition to the draft pick forfeitures. Schefter reports that some sources believe that the punishment for the Falcons is “likely to involve draft picks” and “is expected to be more severe”.



The Philadelphia Eagles, who are facing alleged tampering charges stemming from their involvement with former Giants running back Saquon Barkley, could learn if they’re going to be disciplined as early as this week.
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ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that the league has investigated whether the Eagles made improper contact with Barkey before the legal free-agency negotiation window. The allegations were raised when Penn State coach James Franklin told reporters that Eagles general manager Howie Roseman spoke with Barkley before the start of the legal negotiating window for other teams free agents, an allegation the Eagles denied.

If the Eagles are found guilty of tampering with Barkley, they will likely be docked draft picks and could be fined. The Giants would not benefit from the Eagles' losing draft picks, meaning that any picks docked from the Eagles’ stash would not be awarded to the Giants as compensation.

Why would the Giants not be compensated  
Archer : 4/23/2024 9:45 am : link
One thing that I do not understand is that Schefter states that Minnesota would benefit from the tampering but the Giants would not.

The Eagles could be docked but the Giants, the injured party, would not obtain the draft picks.

I do not get the logic.
So how did the Eagles benefit last year  
robbieballs2003 : 4/23/2024 9:45 am : link
when Arizona tampered with Ganon?
RE: So how did the Eagles benefit last year  
jvm52106 : 4/23/2024 9:52 am : link
In comment 16481252 robbieballs2003 said:
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when Arizona tampered with Ganon?


3rd rd draft pick swap I believe.
I think the difference is that  
FranknWeezer : 4/23/2024 9:53 am : link
PHI and ARI worked out an agreement on a swap of pics, and that was approved by the league.
RE: I think the difference is that  
FranknWeezer : 4/23/2024 9:54 am : link
In comment 16481271 FranknWeezer said:
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PHI and ARI worked out an agreement on a swap of pics, and that was approved by the league.


Whoops, “picks”.
Eagles  
Archer : 4/23/2024 9:57 am : link
The Eagles were incensed that they only received the swap.
They believed that they should have received greater compensation.

However, the NFL was hampered as the allegations were only made a couple of weeks before the draft. This limited their ability to fully vet the situation.
If Min gets awarded  
logman : 4/23/2024 10:01 am : link
comp from ATL, they might get the edge on trading up over NYG.
To do this right before the draft is a horrible idea  
UberAlias : 4/23/2024 10:05 am : link
Teams do all this preparing and suddenly the league throws in a curve ball the day before?
RE: If Min gets awarded  
GFAN52 : 4/23/2024 10:07 am : link
In comment 16481286 logman said:
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comp from ATL, they might get the edge on trading up over NYG.


They already have an edge with their willingness to offer three #1's.
If this happens prior to the draft  
Rjanyg : 4/23/2024 10:08 am : link
it will be a sign to me that the NFL truly hates the Giants.

They know what is going on with teams trying to jockey for position to get their QB.

And I bet the Eagles get no punishment.
RE: RE: So how did the Eagles benefit last year  
robbieballs2003 : 4/23/2024 10:22 am : link
In comment 16481266 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 16481252 robbieballs2003 said:


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when Arizona tampered with Ganon?



3rd rd draft pick swap I believe.


Lol. I know what the outcome was. What I am asking is why the Eagles were allowed to benefit but we cannot.
If not picks, the Eagles should have to forfeit the 2024 season  
widmerseyebrow : 4/23/2024 10:34 am : link
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This entire "tampering" ideology is flawed.  
Vin_Cuccs : 4/23/2024 10:40 am : link
It seems so simple to me...if illegal tampering prior to free agency is not permitted, there have to be stricter penalties to deter teams from doing this.

In most cases, it just seems like the penalty is handed down with no logic or reasoning. There is no transparency.

I am not saying the Giants should or shouldn't receive compensation (although I would love it) but how does the league come to this decision? What constitutes if a violating team is docked draft compensation or if it is rewarded to the victim?

In a related note out of sheer frustration...how is it that Philadelphia consistently bends the rules and gets away with it???
RE: I think the difference is that  
MojoEd : 4/23/2024 11:10 am : link
In comment 16481271 FranknWeezer said:
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PHI and ARI worked out an agreement on a swap of pics, and that was approved by the league.

It’s ridiculous but that is the only reason PHI received any compensation. As Schefter noted talking about the NYG/PHI situation, the league penalizes the offender but does not provide compensation to the victim. I.e., even if PHI and ATL are docked picks by league, those picks won’t go to NYG/MIN. Of course, if the league lets ATL/MIN settle this with direct compensation to MIN ….
RE: RE: If Min gets awarded  
logman : 4/23/2024 11:32 am : link
In comment 16481299 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 16481286 logman said:


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comp from ATL, they might get the edge on trading up over NYG.



They already have an edge with their willingness to offer three #1's.


Except if NE doesn't want to drop out of the Top 10.

A Min/Atl pick swap would be the trump card.
So your saying  
beatrixkiddo : 4/23/2024 11:52 am : link
This won’t turnt he Saints 2nd rounder we received in the Shockley trade to a 1st rounder??? Shucks!
Why should the Giants get anything here?  
The Turk : 4/23/2024 6:02 pm : link
Barkley was a free agent - so what if Philly called him a couple days early? They should be punished but why should we benefit?
RE: Why should the Giants get anything here?  
Amtoft : 4/23/2024 6:08 pm : link
In comment 16482159 The Turk said:
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Barkley was a free agent - so what if Philly called him a couple days early? They should be punished but why should we benefit?


Because we still had time to work out a contract. Why would he sign with us if he knew what Philly was going to offer.
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