1. Bears - Caleb Williams
2. Commanders - Jayden Daniels
3. Patriots - Drake Maye: I don't buy the smoke that the Patriots are going to trade out of this spot. They need a quarterback and they might not find themselves in this spot again any time soon and/or if they do it could be in a class where Kenny Pickett is projected as QB1. Ultimately, I have the Patriots going with Maye over J.J. McCarthy -- possibly to the dismay of owner Robert Kraft -- in part because they don't need an NFL-ready quarterback prospect right now. Personally, Maye is my QB2 in this class and closer to QB1 than he is QB3 -- and I think he's much more NFL-ready than credited for. However, the Patriots are in a full rebuild and can afford to have him sit, rework his footwork, improve his throwing mechanics and prepare to start once the roster is built around him ala Jordan Love.
4. Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr.
5. Vikings (Trade) - JJ McCarthy
6. Giants - Malik Nabers : The Giants miss out on the quarterback market but not for lack of trying. They stuck to their board. If the Patriots had passed on Maye, it would have been the Giants and not the Vikings trading up to No. 5 overall to select him. GM Joe Schoen personally attended six of Maye's games in 2023 and there is the connection to HC Mack Brown. They didn't have the same conviction for McCarthy so instead they take a WR who is as electric and explosive a prospect as we've seen since Jaylen Waddle. There is some discussion they might prefer Rome Odunze, but while the Washington prospect might be a better fit for their depth chart, Nabers fits the system/scheme best -- both Schoen and Daboll have preached separation as the number one trait by far when evaluating WRs. Nabers will immediately provide a home run threat for a team that lost it's only home run threat in Saquon Barkley. While the quarterback room Nabers enters is arguably one of the NFL's worst (Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Tommy DeVito), his skill set doesn't require back-shoulder or tight window pass attempts (Jones' kryptonite). Jones can get the ball to Nabers on RPOs, drag routes and quick-hitting first reads designed to just get it into his hands.
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However I still vote trade down.
I think you can remove that word.
I think you can remove that word.
No, because as of this moment the Patriots are far worse...as hard as it is to accept.
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I think you can remove that word.
No, because as of this moment the Patriots are far worse...as hard as it is to accept.
The worst by far is Denver's QB room and it isn't close.
Could be worse.
Giants likely be the Rams if Tyrod could hit Barkley on a lay up pass.
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The Giants are a NE missed kick from having a shot at Maye.
Could be worse.
Giants likely be the Rams if Tyrod could hit Barkley on a lay up pass.
You mean the most obvious tank job in NFL history? Bill knew he was doing the patriots a favor.
The Vikings will not trade up for JJ if they miss on Maye. They will stay put and pick Penix at 12/23.
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The Giants are a NE missed kick from having a shot at Maye.
Could be worse.
Giants likely be the Rams if Tyrod could hit Barkley on a lay up pass.
You mean the most obvious tank job in NFL history? Bill knew he was doing the patriots a favor.
Still would have had to trade. If we won that game, we would be picking 4th and NE 5th with AZ at 3rd.
This team has no guts with that thinking...
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is a very likely scenario and a very good write-up/logic with Giants.
The Vikings will not trade up for JJ if they miss on Maye. They will stay put and pick Penix at 12/23.
I wouldn't count on it.
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is a very likely scenario and a very good write-up/logic with Giants.
The Vikings will not trade up for JJ if they miss on Maye. They will stay put and pick Penix at 12/23.
Schenier's write-up makes sense on why they would trade up for JJ:
The Vikings acquired the 23rd overall pick for this exact scenario and despite the connection to Maye (Josh McCown coached him), McCarthy was their guy all along. Ultimately, the Chargers couldn't pass up on No. 11 overall, No. 23 overall and a 2025 first-round pick. The reason they love McCarthy is because they're in win-now mode and McCarthy comes from a pro style offense at Michigan. But that's not all. McCarthy is a cookie-cutter perfect fit for the Kevin O'Connell coaching tree with his ability to win in the intermediate middle area of the field with anticipatory throwing and velocity. He'll be able to compete to start right away and provide a better option for Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and T.J. Hockenson than Sam Darnold.
This team has no guts with that thinking...
They also have no way to make NE trade with them.
This team has no guts with that thinking...
Ugh, so tired of people
Just ignoring the fact that taking the 5th best QB is just stupid over taking the guaranteed stud WR or that we can just trade all we want, with whoever we want like we are playing Madden..
This team has no guts with that thinking...
It’s dead on.
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is a very likely scenario and a very good write-up/logic with Giants.
It’s dead on.
I agree as well. Not the result I hoped, but in the end if they can't get Maye, they are in a good position to come away with a potential All Pro player.
Not to mention if our PK does not hurt his knee we beat the Jets as well.
I just can’t watch the guy try to play QB anymore. Even a trade down for Nix (my least favorite of the top 6) plus pick(s) would be preferred. We can’t leave this draft without one of the top 6 QBs. We need hope.
In comment 16482253 Formerly TD said:
I just can’t watch the guy try to play QB anymore. Even a trade down for Nix (my least favorite of the top 6) plus pick(s) would be preferred. We can’t leave this draft without one of the top 6 QBs. We need hope.
Amazing how pointless wins fucked this franchise.
Same can be said about the WR room.
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Just ignoring the fact that a WR with no QB is like 4 racing tires with no car..
This team has no guts with that thinking...
Ugh, so tired of people
Just ignoring the fact that taking the 5th best QB is just stupid over taking the guaranteed stud WR or that we can just trade all we want, with whoever we want like we are playing Madden..
This team has no guts with that thinking...
It's so funny how in December(ish) the line of thinking was the Giants shouldn't make a play at the top QBs because often the 3rd, 4th, or 5th QB taken turns out to be the best of the class.
Now it's taking the 5th best (according to people with no actual inside knowledge on how they're ranked) is the worst thing possible.
A stud WR is only a stud because of getting the ball. Drafting MHJr, Rome, or Nabers is turning a stud into a gelding for at least 2 years