J. Schultz "Vikings more likely to keep 11/23" + Draft info

has also been very quiet. And GiantGrit has been e-mailing me more than he is posting.

In comment 16483541 Eric from BBI said:

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will be fascinating is if the Pats take Maye and the Giants find themselves at #6 with McCarthy still on the board.

I've said that same exact thing. If Schoen goes non-QB or trades down in that scenario, the Daniel Jones Triple Down plan has been activated.

In comment 16483624 Eric from BBI said:

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Oh, I've gotten e-mails from him. He has a lot to say. On the site, he posted yesterday and said it was NOT true that ownership is against moving up.

Yup, remembered that a minute after I posted. I'll be interested (obviously) in what he has to say. At this point I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up at draft time haha. I'm also the asshole that didn't realize he volunteered to assist with something for his daughters dance class on the night of the draft...needless to say I'll be hustling to get that done and get out of there.

is also another asshat who no one seems to either know about or has forgotten. He started posting last year and only drops tidbits here and there. He's been very quiet.

In comment 16483627 Eric from BBI said:

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has also been very quiet. And GiantGrit has been e-mailing me more than he is posting.

Ah, Peppers, I didn't think about not seeing much from him. Well good to know you've at least been getting tidbits from some of them.

In comment 16483631 Eric from BBI said:

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is also another asshat who no one seems to either know about or has forgotten. He started posting last year and only drops tidbits here and there. He's been very quiet.

Is there an active thread with them on it that you could point the way to? :-)

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In comment 16483621 bigblue5611 said: Quote: I believe Rico is the only resident asshat to have not chimed in yet, correct? His post usually comes in a couple hours before the draft if I recall? Oh, I've gotten e-mails from him. He has a lot to say. On the site, he posted yesterday and said it was NOT true that ownership is against moving up.

Anything you're at liberty to share with the masses? High level even?

And then if JJM is available at 6 they trade down 6. Giants get Maye, NE gets JJM and a 3?

While I understand we would like to move on from Jones, it may be a mistake to do it this year. Look what happened to the Panthers last year and they will suffer for many years because of that trade. What about the Giants "forcing" the Jones pick? Just saying drafting for need can kill you. Also last year at this time the prevailing opinion was there would only be 2 elite QB candidates: Williams & Maye. Daniels and McCarthy were relative surprises. This will happen in 2025 and IMO there will not be as many teams looking to draft a QB as they will have invested in one this year. We forced the Jones pick and arguably lost either Tua or Herbert in the following year.

In comment 16483559 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 16483547 bigblue5611 said: Quote: In comment 16483541 Eric from BBI said: Quote: will be fascinating is if the Pats take Maye and the Giants find themselves at #6 with McCarthy still on the board. That would be fine with me. But they might not take McCarthy.

Win-win IMO. If they like McCarthy, take him. If not, maybe deal to Vikings for 11, 23, +, or another team

In comment 16483631 Eric from BBI said:

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is also another asshat who no one seems to either know about or has forgotten. He started posting last year and only drops tidbits here and there. He's been very quiet.

Gloveone?

In comment 16483501 JJ2525 said:

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where everyone talks for months about trades and then very few actually happen.

I've wondered the same.

In comment 16483631 Eric from BBI said:

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is also another asshat who no one seems to either know about or has forgotten. He started posting last year and only drops tidbits here and there. He's been very quiet.

Hitdog has also been rather quiet

In comment 16483661 AustinGiant said:

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While I understand we would like to move on from Jones, it may be a mistake to do it this year. Look what happened to the Panthers last year and they will suffer for many years because of that trade. What about the Giants "forcing" the Jones pick? Just saying drafting for need can kill you. Also last year at this time the prevailing opinion was there would only be 2 elite QB candidates: Williams & Maye. Daniels and McCarthy were relative surprises. This will happen in 2025 and IMO there will not be as many teams looking to draft a QB as they will have invested in one this year. We forced the Jones pick and arguably lost either Tua or Herbert in the following year.

Drafting Jones wasn't as bad as keeping him after ut clearly wasn't working.

In comment 16483661 AustinGiant said:

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While I understand we would like to move on from Jones, it may be a mistake to do it this year. Look what happened to the Panthers last year and they will suffer for many years because of that trade. What about the Giants "forcing" the Jones pick? Just saying drafting for need can kill you. Also last year at this time the prevailing opinion was there would only be 2 elite QB candidates: Williams & Maye. Daniels and McCarthy were relative surprises. This will happen in 2025 and IMO there will not be as many teams looking to draft a QB as they will have invested in one this year. We forced the Jones pick and arguably lost either Tua or Herbert in the following year.

But didn't the front office prefer Stroud but Tepper wanted Young? If Schoen/Daboll identify Maye or JJM as their guy, do it. If it doesn't work out, move on in year 3.

In comment 16483536 cosmicj said:

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I’ve been thinking about the ultimate order, too. The chatter sure sounds like there’s a stand off and everyone will just keep their picks and select.

+2. It sounds like all or most of this chatter about trades could be just "so much sound and fury signifying nothing."

If NE takes Maye then the Giants should not try and trade up. SkyKing has said that the Vikings won't trade up for JJM and the Cardinals apparently want a ton to move down and risk missing out on MHJ. That isn't surprising. Despite all the recent chatter about Nabers passing him on some teams' draft boards, he's still the presumptive #1 WR in the draft. Some teams apparently have him as the #1 player in the entire draft, regardless of position.

If NE takes JJM, then the Giants could offer our #1 next year to move to #4 for Maye. I wouldn't, but it would be reasonable to do so.

I don't see other teams as potential suitors or trade partners for NE, AZ, or SD, except Denver. And if they made a "godfather" offer then we can't beat it anyway.

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In comment 16483541 Eric from BBI said: Quote: will be fascinating is if the Pats take Maye and the Giants find themselves at #6 with McCarthy still on the board. That would be fine with me.

Because you assume they take JJM.... They may still take Nabers or trade down.

We have to many needs. Maybe if moving from 6 to 5 costs like a 4th or a 2025 3rd I do it, but that is it. If we don't get a QB then we don't. We will get really good players instead. If we walked away with Nabers, Orhorhoro, and DTD then I would be happy. We can grab a Joe Milton or Pratt in the 4th to give us another option to keep Daniels off the field late in the year. Then next year get a FA QB or draft one.

In comment 16483631 Eric from BBI said:

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is also another asshat who no one seems to either know about or has forgotten. He started posting last year and only drops tidbits here and there. He's been very quiet.

Hitdog

Hitdog. I think only a few posters picked up on this other guy. I'm not going to out him.

Consider it a "where's Waldo?" exercise for BBI.

how the heck did I forget about Hitdog?

What are we up to now? 6, 7 asshats?

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Hitdog. I think only a few posters picked up on this other guy. I'm not going to out him. Consider it a "where's Waldo?" exercise for BBI.

Did Soti ever comeback here?

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Hitdog. I think only a few posters picked up on this other guy. I'm not going to out him. Consider it a "where's Waldo?" exercise for BBI.

Woodstock?

Classic meltdown after the Jones pick (which he assured us wouldn't happen).

What’s the saying about HOPE being a faulty strategy/plan? Because that’ll be the plan at QB moving forward: HOPE Lock/Jones play well while HOPING a lesser talent at QB emerges in 2024 for the 2025 draft.

Any ETA on Rico’s big post? Or when GoDeep will check back in? Remember in his last thread he mentioned that he would try to leave some more nuggets before the big event tomorrow night.

Rico
Peppers
Hitdog
Woodstock
Giantgrit.

WHo am I missing?

SKyking and stars and stripes have dropped some stuff but are you counting either of them?

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Any ETA on Rico’s big post? Or when GoDeep will check back in? Remember in his last thread he mentioned that he would try to leave some more nuggets before the big event tomorrow night.

I don't know if you're going to see some of these guys post. Stakes too high. Too many eyes watching.

Rico
Peppers
Hitdog
Woodstock
Giantgrit.

GoDeep13
Rickey
(the guy who you guys haven't caught)

In comment 16483541 Eric from BBI said:

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will be fascinating is if the Pats take Maye and the Giants find themselves at #6 with McCarthy still on the board.

Eli and Rivers all over again.

In comment 16483737 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 16483730 Roto_Wizard said: Quote: Any ETA on Rico’s big post? Or when GoDeep will check back in? Remember in his last thread he mentioned that he would try to leave some more nuggets before the big event tomorrow night. I don't know if you're going to see some of these guys post. Stakes too high. Too many eyes watching.

As it should be (this year).

As much as I love the asshats, franchise QB is too important to f around about.

He doesn't know that we will see the massive run up for QBs that people thought a couple of days ago. He doesn't have that sense right now.

In comment 16483743 Eric from BBI said:

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Rico Peppers Hitdog Woodstock Giantgrit. GoDeep13 Rickey (the guy who you guys haven't caught)

Oh yeah Rickey! Thanks!

Eric, you gotta throw us a clue here on the mystery asshat!!

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are in a dangerous position too. While they don't want to negotiate against themselves, can they afford to assume Minnesota is not going to trade up?

Therein lies the rub (no offense to Bob Kraft!)...

about Giants wanting Kwity Paye and said he had inside knowledge??

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In comment 16483743 Eric from BBI said: Quote: Rico Peppers Hitdog Woodstock Giantgrit. GoDeep13 Rickey (the guy who you guys haven't caught) Oh yeah Rickey! Thanks! Eric, you gotta throw us a clue here on the mystery asshat!!

I think it was Jim in Tampa who has shared some info too.

This was Big Rick himself.

for JJM but isn't sure he'll be there so they take Maye with the understanding that they'd trade him to the giants for JJM and more if JJM is there at 6.

Not like that hasn't happened before lol....

In comment 16483733 Rjanyg said:

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Rico Peppers Hitdog Woodstock Giantgrit. WHo am I missing? SKyking and stars and stripes have dropped some stuff but are you counting either of them?

Ha don't count me in unless my info proves true. Or if I can get actually get a hold of this guy again

If you do see him again, make sure to talk him into signing up on here, lol.

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In comment 16483541 Eric from BBI said: Quote: will be fascinating is if the Pats take Maye and the Giants find themselves at #6 with McCarthy still on the board. Eli and Rivers all over again.

I was thinking same thing!

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Hitdog. I think only a few posters picked up on this other guy. I'm not going to out him. Consider it a "where's Waldo?" exercise for BBI.

Does this poster’s handle begin with a “C”?

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This was Big Rick himself.

Oh yeah! Big Rick! Thanks!

tempting as they want it to be.

I’ve heard a lot of opinions that this draft - while great at the top - only has 12-19 1st rounders depending who you ask. And then thins out again after the mid rounds.

So if you’re not getting a typical -st round talent with the 23 while also missing out on the blue chips, they don’t have much to offer.

1st round talent

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If you do see him again, make sure to talk him into signing up on here, lol.

Them types don't hang in our circles bro. Lol. Though in all seriousness I didn't realize one of my buddies is actually tight with him. Had no idea he knew that guy. Probably wanted it that way. I don't know if I'll talk to him directly again but I'll sure try and get some info through my friend.

you explain to the "newbies", about the origin of "Asshat",
its still a pretty funny story.

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you explain to the "newbies", about the origin of "Asshat", its still a pretty funny story.

I know there was a thread asking this the other day... I honestly don't remember it's been so long.

that's a good guess

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In comment 16483814 UberAlias said: Quote: If you do see him again, make sure to talk him into signing up on here, lol. Them types don't hang in our circles bro. Lol. Though in all seriousness I didn't realize one of my buddies is actually tight with him. Had no idea he knew that guy. Probably wanted it that way. I don't know if I'll talk to him directly again but I'll sure try and get some info through my friend.

I hear ya!