The New York Giants aren’t leaving the draft without a QB and everything points to them taking one tomorrow. Sure sounds like Joe Schoen is getting in position to pick a QB tomorrow night #NYGiants
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Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
Yes, or possibly step one to get to 3 (I hope not but who am I to be critical of them if they have conviction). I'd just take Maye or JJM at 4 myself. That's what I've been saying for months.
I am not QB scouting expert but gotta trust Schoen and Dabs here. There were part of the process that drafted Allen.
If they have conviction on these QB's make the deal happen. Its the most important position in sports. If they get it right our franchise is set up for the next 10-15 years.
If they get it wrong they will be gone in a year or two.
Around the time of Glazer’s update that the Pats love Maye.
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
assume that if we move up to #4 it would involve a draft pick next year since Arizona already has a ton this year. My guess is that it would cost a second next year. But I have also read that Arizona has told MHJ that he's their pick if he's available at #4, and that they would want a lot to move down at all. Less than 24 hours to go.
Around the time of Glazer’s update that the Pats love Maye.
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
Quite possibly. He also has to know by now whether he can make a deal with NE, AZ, or frankly anyone else.
I also agree that the Giants seem determined to get a QB tomorrow.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
This I believe. Lots of chatter Maye to NE. And 6-4 for JJ comes a lot cheaper. Do it.
Around the time of Glazer’s update that the Pats love Maye.
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
Now that's a way to call NE's bluff if I've ever seen one. Obviously, Schoen must be fine with either Maye or JJM at 4. Nevertheless, the Pats will 100% go JJM if Kraft really wants him. Schoen is playing legit poker.
When the media compares Maye going to the Giants with Allen going to the Bills? It’s almost as though Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll have brought their Buffalo genie lamp with them to New York and all they need to do is give it one more wishful rub and out will pop a franchise QB!
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
Yes, or possibly step one to get to 3 (I hope not but who am I to be critical of them if they have conviction). I'd just take Maye or JJM at 4 myself. That's what I've been saying for months.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
Where we sit tight and end up taking the #2 WR off the board, which in any other year, would be a great thing…and yes, I realize that may end up how it goes if 1-5 doesn’t play out like we hope…
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
would prefer to take either Maye or JJM at #6 over anyone else, but a second is the absolute most I would give up (Sy said he wouldn't give up more than our third) to move up for either. They both have some pretty substantial holes and everyone agrees as a consequence they need to sit for a year.
Eli sat for a half a year. Mahomes sat for just about a full year. I think they turned out pretty well. This team is up shit's creek until they get a QB.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
If you include Nix - should sit if the giants get them. Maybe a few games but real live action is the only way they get better.
Penix inability to scramble, throw on the run, and throw under pressure in college shows he has the highest learning curve and will need better pieces surrounding him than what we can provide.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
Yeah, it go either way as in maybe/uncertain for JJM or as JJM being a possibility along with Maye and JD.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
Yeah, it go either way as in maybe/uncertain for JJM or as JJM being a possibility along with Maye and JD.
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
Would you make this trade for JJM?
I would. I like Maye more but I think JJM is going to be at worst above average
Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
Would you make this trade for JJM?
I would. I like Maye more but I think JJM is going to be at worst above average
Yep. Still 23 hours from NYG picking. Everyone will be talking tomorrow.
2004-2005 vibes. Fingers crossed.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
Same, I'm trying to temper my hope until I hear the words WE HAVE A TRADE by the Commissioner.
Still think the WR might be special players
And the QB craze has risen....and maybe teams in teens more desperate will over pay with us at 6.
Should be entertaining
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
Yes, or possibly step one to get to 3 (I hope not but who am I to be critical of them if they have conviction). I'd just take Maye or JJM at 4 myself. That's what I've been saying for months.
If they have conviction on these QB's make the deal happen. Its the most important position in sports. If they get it right our franchise is set up for the next 10-15 years.
If they get it wrong they will be gone in a year or two.
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
Quite possibly. He also has to know by now whether he can make a deal with NE, AZ, or frankly anyone else.
I also agree that the Giants seem determined to get a QB tomorrow.
That might be our preference, but it'd be a moot point if New England takes Maye. And we'd have to fend off Minnesota trading up to Arizona as well.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
I’m wondering if Schoen was working the Pats with the hope of Maye being option 1A knowing that through Cowden’s connection to Ossenfort, he’s had a reasonable deal with Arizona to 4 in his back pocket the whole time for McCarthy who is option 1B.
Now that's a way to call NE's bluff if I've ever seen one. Obviously, Schoen must be fine with either Maye or JJM at 4. Nevertheless, the Pats will 100% go JJM if Kraft really wants him. Schoen is playing legit poker.
When the media compares Maye going to the Giants with Allen going to the Bills? It’s almost as though Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll have brought their Buffalo genie lamp with them to New York and all they need to do is give it one more wishful rub and out will pop a franchise QB!
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
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And becoming clear its QB (likely Maye over McCarthy).
That might be our preference, but it'd be a moot point if New England takes Maye. And we'd have to fend off Minnesota trading up to Arizona as well.
Minnesota would likely have to get to 5 then 4 to entice AZ.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
Would you make this trade for JJM?
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
WOW - sounds like it's anybody but DJ now - 4th QB.
Yes, or possibly step one to get to 3 (I hope not but who am I to be critical of them if they have conviction). I'd just take Maye or JJM at 4 myself. That's what I've been saying for months.
Part 1 of a double trade-up methinks...
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
Agreed.
I'd only move up to #5 for Maye. But if Schoen wants to do it at 4, I can live with it. It'll cost us though. And pass on JJ.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
Penix inability to scramble, throw on the run, and throw under pressure in college shows he has the highest learning curve and will need better pieces surrounding him than what we can provide.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
Yeah, it go either way as in maybe/uncertain for JJM or as JJM being a possibility along with Maye and JD.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
In all fairness, JJ being a "possibility" is pretty vague. That certainly doesn't convince me the Giants have a deal in place with the Cardinals to move up to #4 if he's still on the board at that pick.
True, but the way I read it is JJM as a possibility (if Maye is gone). Not that they would maybe do it for JJM, I read it as we have a deal in place with AZ for Maye, JD or JJM. You could be right, but I don't see Rico even mentioning JJM if it was maybe for JJM definitely for JD or Maye.
The word "possibility" creates uncertainty for me about whether a deal is in place for JJM.
Yeah, it go either way as in maybe/uncertain for JJM or as JJM being a possibility along with Maye and JD.
Yup.
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
Would you make this trade for JJM?
I would. I like Maye more but I think JJM is going to be at worst above average
Part 1 of a double trade-up methinks...
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Somewhat of a change.
Rico : 9:43 pm : link : reply
It sounds like we have some deal in place with Arizona to move up to 4. At first it was only for Maye or Daniels, but today my source mentioned JJ as a possibility.
Two years ago it seemed like Thibs was off our board, but then my source said he was on our board in the final 24 hours before the draft. This may be a similar situation
What thread is this in?
Would you make this trade for JJM?
I would. I like Maye more but I think JJM is going to be at worst above average
That's the thread the post is in ;)
I am still hoping for Maye but JJM is solid as well.. Daniel Jones is not the QB for this team and we need our guy on board..
We have holes but in order to build you have to have a center piece and that is your QB...
If he trades for McCarthy.. Schoen will go as the worst gm we ever had.. at least gettlemen drafted the best players on this team.
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wow.....
If he trades for McCarthy.. Schoen will go as the worst gm we ever had.. at least gettlemen drafted the best players on this team.
Sure sure..
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my hopes up until the deal is done. Giants can still easily get boxed out here. Or the cost may be so great that it leaves an unsettled feeling.
You go to hell. You go to hell and you die! I'm literally going stir crazy at this point.
I took tomorrow off because I knew there was no way I would concentrate on work..