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| The #Giants have been trying to trade up to No. 3 with the #Patriots, with the belief being they want UNC QB Drake Maye, according to multiple league sources. The prevailing belief is it’s a long shot to happen — but New England is listening to all calls. |
I think it's just predraft posturing and they come to an agreement when the Pats are on the clock.
There is a redline you can't cross when it comes to compensation.
If the cost is too great, take McCarthy at #4.
"give us Dexter Lawrence and three #1s"
I know, some here are convinced you get the WR but when your QB cannot maximize the receivers ability and impact it is a huge negative to the team and specifically the WR...
Correct.
mixed reviews according to who? BBI? beat writers? "scouts"
the REALITY is NOBODY knows truly how these guys will turn out. You do your evaluation and interviews and put a grade on them. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.
The only "review" that matters is the giants. if they loved him they love him. If you asked Joe, there is NO mixed reviews on the players they covet. Im sure he can admit to their guys having flaws, but who doesnt?
again, giants review is only one who matters...
Maybe it'll be a replay of 2004 where both teams take QBs and then swap them.
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tell the Pats no thanks. We've got another guy who were are interested in. (wink, wink)
Maybe it'll be a replay of 2004 where both teams take QBs and then swap them.
Somebody posted you can't do that anymore.
Jordan Schultz has been very very accurate for a couple of years now. My buddy and I were talking about it during free agency and we both agreed he might have overtaken Schefter & Rapoport for most reliable insider. But as I said yesterday the draft and hirings/firings/signings/trades are different.
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tell the Pats no thanks. We've got another guy who were are interested in. (wink, wink)
Maybe it'll be a replay of 2004 where both teams take QBs and then swap them.
I don’t think they can do that anymore due to a rule change?
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tell the Pats no thanks. We've got another guy who were are interested in. (wink, wink)
Maybe it'll be a replay of 2004 where both teams take QBs and then swap them.
Somebody posted you can't do that anymore.
Ah, well never mind then!
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tell the Pats no thanks. We've got another guy who were are interested in. (wink, wink)
Maybe it'll be a replay of 2004 where both teams take QBs and then swap them.
Somebody posted you can't do that anymore.
Yeah I'm pretty sure you can't draft a player and trade them anymore.
I think they get the deal done. My buddy has been telling me since January the Giants are the most likely team to trade up and has been telling me he'd be shocked if we don't leave Round 1 with a QB.
thats actually good for us...
cards want nabers or MHJ. they cannot go all the way down to 11(vikings).
Let pats take JJM. we trade LESS assets to move to 4 versus 3 and we take maye.
Or the Patriots would have to be creative. Like trading from 3 to 6 and then up to 4.
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Is that McCarthy may not be there. This is a stalemate and they are just going to have to pick JJ at 3 and move on.
Or the Patriots would have to be creative. Like trading from 3 to 6 and then up to 4.
This seems to be the likely scenario.
If only we could control that!
Except there were also a few losses that should have easily been wins. It evens out.
Full stop
Now
We are the Best trade down partner because you can get an elite player at 6
Only way to fuck this up is to overpay
R E L A X
With him out, it seems like a major step down with Wolf, a first time GM (interim still), and Kraft, who always deferred to Belichick.
At this point, I stop all communications with the Pats and dare them to make their pick. IF they call back, you know they are blinking, and you can very likely get a favorable deal.
With him out, it seems like a major step down with Wolf, a first time GM (interim still), and Kraft, who always deferred to Belichick.
At this point, I stop all communications with the Pats and dare them to make their pick. IF they call back, you know they are blinking, and you can very likely get a favorable deal.
Which is what may have happened. If you ask me, the Pats sound panicky.
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Is that McCarthy may not be there. This is a stalemate and they are just going to have to pick JJ at 3 and move on.
Or the Patriots would have to be creative. Like trading from 3 to 6 and then up to 4.
I think that’s too complex. The Pats would already need to have it all worked out and if they did they wouldn’t be leaking stuff about how they love Maye.
Show me a QB that doesn't have mixed reviews.
What future? There is no future without a QB
There is absolutely no need to do that. Both teams want different quarterbacks.
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Something like our 1st and 2nd this year, 1st next year and then some
There is absolutely no need to do that. Both teams want different quarterbacks.
My read is that NE likes JJM enough that they'd be willing to move down for a haul but I'm not convinced they wouldn't just sit there and take Maye if nobody meets the asking price
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and his last several years of drafting, but he was a master of maneuvering the draft. I think I read where he had close to 100 draft day trades since 2000. And things were pretty airtight at Pats Central.
With him out, it seems like a major step down with Wolf, a first time GM (interim still), and Kraft, who always deferred to Belichick.
At this point, I stop all communications with the Pats and dare them to make their pick. IF they call back, you know they are blinking, and you can very likely get a favorable deal.
Which is what may have happened. If you ask me, the Pats sound panicky.
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We probably told them we have a deal in place with AZ and we are happy with JJM or Maye. Thanks for your time, bye.
This would make sense and perhaps both NYG and NE have good intel that the price for AZ's pick if JJM is there and not Maye is set at the agreed upon cost. I could definitely see this being a legitimate possibility which should drive the cost to trade up to 3 down significantly.
Comments like this is why I don’t care anymore, some of you need a reality check. Worthless wins, what the fuck man.
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and his last several years of drafting, but he was a master of maneuvering the draft. I think I read where he had close to 100 draft day trades since 2000. And things were pretty airtight at Pats Central.
With him out, it seems like a major step down with Wolf, a first time GM (interim still), and Kraft, who always deferred to Belichick.
At this point, I stop all communications with the Pats and dare them to make their pick. IF they call back, you know they are blinking, and you can very likely get a favorable deal.
Which is what may have happened. If you ask me, the Pats sound panicky.
+1
We probably told them we have a deal in place with AZ and we are happy with JJM or Maye. Thanks for your time, bye.
Only fly in ointment here is that Roseman pulling some shenanigans trying to trade up to for using AJ Brown and picks to give Cards their stud receiver.
I know, some here are convinced you get the WR but when your QB cannot maximize the receivers ability and impact it is a huge negative to the team and specifically the WR...
A true WR1 who is a game breaker is not easy to find. If we try to get a vet via trade or FA, the cost is high. We are just emerging from cap hell after a bad WR deal. We have a shot at a sure thing at the position and imho we need to take it! If our QB is incapable of getting him the ball that will put us on the clock for a QB next year with a cost controlled WR1 on the roster for the next 3-4.